User talk:Cihwcihw

Articles for deletion/TSLAQ
I think you might be interested in participating in this discussion - Articles_for_deletion/TSLAQ. You can vote "keep" or "delete" to help Wikipedia Administrators decide how to handle the TSLAQ page. You can learn more about how to contribute to the deletion discussion here - How to Contribute to Articles for Deletion Discussion. Iamchinahand (talk) 07:34, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

December 2020
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Plainsite. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. ''I am issuing a warning for the edits that you have twice now published. The sources you posted are either primary sources or not reliable. Please review WP:RS.'' QRep2020 (talk) 15:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi QRep2020,

I don't agree that the edits constitute vandalism. PlainSite is well known for their short selling activities, especially in regards to Tesla and Elon Musk. However, they have openly discussed the fact that they are also shorting Facebook, Credit Acceptance Corporation, Shopify, and others. Hiding this important context threatens the page's neutral point of view and compromises the user's understanding of the topic at hand. In discussing controversies surrounding PlainSite, the back and forth between Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Plainsite founder Aaron Greenspan is certainly relavent. The tweets in question have been cited directly.

You seem to be focused on editing multiple pages about Tesla short sellers, and you mentioned on your talk page that "I am trying to steer the page away from this characterization" that "TSLAQ is a group of short sellers". In this case, PlainSite is in fact a Tesla short seller and has admitted publicly to having a position in the company's stock, as noted on the page for some time. While I appreciate that you may want to "steer the page away from this characterization", I must remind you that articles on Wikipedia should have a Neutral point of view. Rather than simply reverting edits that don't reflect your viewpoint, please try and cite relavent information that supports your perspective.

Finally, I noticed that one of the Reddit comments from PlainSite I had cited was deleted by the author shortly after you reverted the changes. It would appear that you are either working closely with or representing the subject of the page and communicating with them about the changes you are making. Please review Wikipedia's policy on Editing Your Own Page. In a situation where the topic in question concerns you or someone you know personally, please make suggestions or corrections on the associated talk page, and wait for someone who is not communicating with the subject to edit the page to reflect your corrections in an impartial way. Furthermore, threatening to block editing privileges for "vandalism" over constructive edits to the page that add important context to the discussion is wrong. Please do not manipulate Wikipedia for self-promotion, including attempting to frame the debate around a topic you may be covering in your reporting or writing on "Q groups" (though you seem to be exclusively focused on TSLAQ so far)

Cihwcihw (talk) 00:32, 11 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Concerning the deleted Reddit comment, Reddit says it was removed by a moderator. It was removed already at the time you posted your link, as evidenced by the "u/[deleted]" in the title in your diff Since the IamA is old I'm guessing you obtained a direct link to the comment from somewhere? --Elephanthunter (talk) 07:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Again you are vandalizing the Plainsite wikipedia entry. Where in the sources do they support any of the edits you made? None. This is serving as another warning. QRep2020 (talk) 02:16, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi QRep2020,

The page already mentions that PlainSite is a short-seller. It seems quite dishonest to hide this information. Why are you aggressively monitoring this page as well as others about TSLAQ short sellers to hide information about their financial motivations? Is it not improper to be communicating with the subject of a page while repeatedly removing important context from the page? Cihwcihw (talk)