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Alfred A. Cave
Thank you for taking on what was a tiny nothing, which I declined a speedy delete on, and making an article out of it. Hopefully, it reduces your stress during the RfA. --Bbb23 (talk) 17:10, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey there! I appreciate the kind words. Wikipedia is my escape. I enjoy monitoring the CSDs and identifying an article I can work on in order to help establish notability. I was about to decline this A7 when you beat me to it! That's teamwork. LOL Stress? What stress?  Hope you have a great day!  Cindy  ( talk ) 17:50, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Late reply
Hadn't checked my mail for a few days... Don't forget that to pass RfA you must: be perfect and not make mistakes; acknowledge your mistakes and learn from them; do what you're there to do (but not if it upsets people who weren't involved anyway); stick to your guns, but not be inflexible and refuse to change your mind; if female, represent what some people think is the correct female attitude even though people say that that editors are editors and admins admins no matter what sex or gender they might be (if male, you must not be proud of it and edit in a male way, but if female you must be a female editor above all); find a solution to the Mongolian Bean Crisis (or the Mongolian bean crisis, or Mongolian Bean crisis or even the Mongolian bean Crisis - everyone who knows about this knows the correct spelling but can't remember what the actual problem is...). 8-) Peridon (talk) 16:46, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it's Mongolian BEAN crocus. And I think question #3 should be changed. Rather than attempting to assess how editors interact with others and respond to conflict, it should just say "Please list all your shortcomings and failures over the past 17 years." I think that should just about cover it. They should then get rid of WP:NOTPERFECT. Just my thoughts. I certainly appreciate your support and feedback. Like the other feedback offered, it does not land on deaf ears. Best regards,  Cindy  ( talk ) 11:53, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to get in touch on my talk page. WJBscribe (talk) 16:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

 * Congrats. I'm raising a glass to you, but I'd advise you to stick to the tea - I'm having a rum and iron brew. (Just finished a nasty plumbing job involving a header tank, several pieces of overflow pipe, a 24mm drill, a cricked neck, and a lot of bad language... Should stop flooding next time the ballcock starts getting ideas of its own.) I won't offer you help and advice - you know I'll give it and you probably know more about how this place works than I do anyway. If you want the admin dashboard in all its glory plus some other odd links, copy my /links page. If you don't want the odd links, just copy the dashboard bit. Enjoy. Peridon (talk) 19:18, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Adminship
It appears it is all but done. You managed to survive the gauntlet with less than one half off the opposers I had at my bludgeoning RFA, and a higher support percentage as well. While we should always take the concerns serious, don't let the fact that some expressed them bring you down. I wish you the best of luck moving forward. I assure you, you will need it. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124; WER  23:52, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dennis! Seemingly survived by the skin of my teeth! I'm not sure I've ever seen such vitriol and fault-finding in an RFA before, but this could be just my subjective point of view. Some comments made were even from three year old issues, when I was the new kid on the block. Truly puzzling. Oddly enough, while the RFA essentially ended yesterday afternoon, nobody closed it, which led to vandalism and a couple more comments. Oy vey. I certainly appreciate your support. Don't be surprised if I hit you up occasionally for some guidance as I learn the ropes. Hope you had a great week and will have an even better weekend! Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 12:01, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sure others will be helpful (DGG is an excellent choice, just don't work him too hard). Unfortunately, I'm almost never around enwp anymore, although occasionally I find a worthwhile reason to stay for a while. As for bad RFAs, it always seems worse when it is your own.  I had 31 opposers in mine and drama outside the RFA itself, so I understand the stress. (BTW, welcome to the Pedro Cabal :) The amount of sincere opposition wasn't that broad, it was mainly concern about a couple of areas of experience that you need to shore up on. We all have areas where we need to improve, so you are in good company. Take those comments seriously and learn from them, but ignore the personal stuff.  The vast majority of people trusted your willingness and ability to improve your skills and use the tools conservatively as you move forward.  Remember that. Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  14:24, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Pedro Cabal. Shhhhhhh. Pedro : Chat  14:58, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * My mistake. There is no Cabal.   We meet Tuesdays at 6:00pm.   Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  15:46, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Bring wine. Pedro :  Chat  20:10, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll bring wine. You bring the decoder ring. Cindy  ( talk ) 14:35, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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Donald James Parker
(re: (Donald James Parker) -Wiki is verifiable and now explained so more of a better understanding so therefore here you. Please DONOT DELETE PAGE.
 * Thanks for contacting me! I spent quite a bit of time trying to find reliable and independent sources to support Don's notability, but came up empty. I primarily found several user-generated social and professional networking sites along with many blogs. I've requested a community discussion regarding the viability of the article. You are welcome to participate in the discussion at Articles for deletion/Donald James Parker. At this point, all I see is that Don is a self-published author who has also worked on some independent films in various capacities. The only citation we have is to IMDb, which is not considered a reliable source, since the content is user-submitted. While I haven't been able to find anything to support notability, I'm wondering if you have additional sources you could provide. Do you have access to any more information about Don and his career that we could use to establish notability? Cindy  ( talk ) 01:37, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * ((re: (Donald James Parker) I had a right and a permissable by law from the guy to do this he said i could publish all i want to get him out there.I tried.
 * Yes, you did try. While your contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, the process to edit and retain content is governed by policy and guidelines, rather than legislation, rights, or the subject's wishes. In accordance with the deletion policy, the article has been deleted, due to lack of established notability. Please see the deletion discussion at Articles for deletion/Donald James Parker. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact me. Additionally, please make sure to sign your comments by adding four tildes following your post, rather than a ping. The four tildes are used as a shortcut for your user signature. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 20:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Congrats of your RfA!
Well done on your RfA! It seems that you're going to be an admin soon, though not soon enough&hellip; Anyway, congrats! Epicgenius (talk) 00:59, 17 January 2014 (UTC) Well, it's a certainty to pass; shame there don't seem to be any active 'crats around at the moment - I'm sure it'll be done soon. Well done, and if you want any help or advice with the tools let me know. Very Best. Pedro : Chat  14:59, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Look's like it's in the bag - well done!  Brookie :) { - he's in the building somewhere!}  (Whisper...) 11:43, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, it's been closed now. Congratulations from me, Cindamuse! :) Acalamari 17:32, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations and Best Wishes.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:37, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Congrats! ///Euro Car  GT  22:43, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on your RFA :) Davey 2010  Talk to me!  23:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:09, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to add my congrats on to the pile Cindy :). Kevin Gorman (talk) 02:21, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Congrats &mdash; Vensatry (Ping) 04:46, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations from me too! — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 10:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Congrats on the promotion. Let me know if you have any admin-related questions I can help with, things can get confusing pretty quick around here! Mark Arsten (talk) 18:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I appreciate all the kind words and will keep your names in my Rolodex for future reference and assistance. (What a week to get the flu!) Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 14:39, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * She's got a little list, she's got a little list, She's got us on the list... Peridon (talk) 15:24, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm late to the party but congrats from me, too! De728631 (talk) 13:59, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. I apologize if I overstepped in some of my responses in your RFA. Mkdw talk 08:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No apology necessary. I sincerely appreciate the support. I was personally surprised by the hostility shown in the discussion. I chose to refrain from responding to some comments when it was clear that it would not bear fruit. I was puzzled that some issues were from over two and three years old and long resolved. I've never seen such an extensive review of an editor's contributions in an RFA. That said, some of the opposing comments, still hold water. I certainly will keep the concerns of others in mind as I move forward. Thanks again for the support. Best regards,  Cindy  ( talk ) 19:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's even more surprising considering that some of the same individuals attacking you for past mistakes in your RFA are now supporting Sarek's RFA. Smacks of hypocrisy.  INeverCry   20:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've seen far more extensive reviews of candidate's contributions. What I saw as odd was as you noticed the raking over old old coals, the only time I've seen people go back so far was when someone had a long recent gap, or for the sort of integrity issues that don't change, or for age issues - those people who oppose legal minors at RFA will oppose a 16 year old because four years ago they admitted to be 12. I don't recall so many opposes for resolved issues, or for having formerly been too close to the WMF.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  22:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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FastestLaps
Why and how is the page considered "inappropriate?" Did anyone ever see the URL regarding FastestLaps (http://fastestlaps.com/)? Probably not. Altimgamr (talk) 07:49, 25 January 2014 (UTC) Please help me! Whenever I add such articles, they get deleted. Altimgamr (talk) 07:51, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * To restate guidance presented on your talk page, the articles which you are creating fails to indicate how the subject is significant or important. Check out the general notability guidelines, along with the notability guidelines for web content. If you have additional questions, please feel free to ask. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 07:58, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I didn't have time to add more information about it on the article because we had to go to the store and buy some apples, oranges, and carrots. Altimgamr (talk) 08:02, 25 January 2014 (UTC) Okay, well, just to let you know, I'm the co-founder of Kids Media USA (http://kidsmediausa.com/). My classmate (Krisjanis) created FastestLaps (the website, not the Wikipedia article). Altimgamr (talk) 08:01, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay, hopefully you'll be able to check out the links I've provided here and on your talk page. You may also want to review the guidance offered for editors with conflicts of interest. Hope you have a great weekend, Cindy  ( talk ) 08:08, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

The Opie & Anthony Show staff page
I would just like to know why a page like this is not valid for the radio show especially when other shows have similar pages. I understand it was incomplete but it would of eventually had information on each member of the staff that is lacking on wikipedia. What can I do to bring it back and/or improve it — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankSheckler (talk • contribs) 05:07, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * When we create articles on Wikipedia, the minimum requirement to forgo speedy deletion is to clearly indicate how the subject is significant or important. Wikipedia is not the place to present employee rosters or lists of individuals lacking independent notability. It doesn't matter if other articles exist. As far as this article, I don't recommend recreating it. However, if you choose to work on it, please do so in a subpage of your userspace. When you believe notability is established through significant coverage in reliable and independent sources, you may submit it for review at WP:AFC. Once it passes muster there, it will be moved to the mainspace. During this process, please make sure to review the guidance offered for individuals with conflicts of interest. If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact me. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 05:22, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * If you'd bother searching online you'd see that those names are notable in the scope of the show as much as characters in a book or film so it isn't just a roster. There is history these men have with the show that wikipedia doesn't cover. I was just trying to set structure so it could be developed and even tagged it as being under editing so it be known work was being done. Now to be honest I don't even want to contribute. There's no purpose if a janitor that has no idea of the subject within the classroom disregards things as rubbish. Good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankSheckler (talk • contribs) 05:48, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * - I hope you'll reconsider, because the O&A article (and similar articles you may have knowledge about) need a lot of work. Many people get a negative first reaction when they try to contribute to Wikipedia and their work is undone for reasons that aren't immediately clear. It's something we're working on trying to make less painful. In the meantime, know it's not that is simply misinformed and would understand if only he/she knew more about O&A; it's just a matter of Wikipedia policy to restrict content to things that are demonstrably notable regardless of how notable someone may know the subject to be. To use your analogy, characters in books are rarely notable. Only in cases when the characters themselves are each notable in their own right do they have separate pages (for example, Luke Skywalker or Holden Caufield). Because you mention other shows, we could use Stern for example. Yes, Beetlejuice (entertainer) and John Melendez have their own page, but you'll note the sources are specifically about them rather than about Stern but mention them. Conversely, look at all the pages that redirect to the Howard Stern Show article because they aren't notable in their own right. Largely because the staff isn't notable, there aren't reliable sources for creating a viable list and so the list would depend on your (or another editor's) original research, which isn't acceptable on Wikipedia. The list of "former" staff in your list is a teeny tiny percent of total former staff from the last, what, almost 20 years? Even the current staff list isn't inclusive of all current staff -- just those mentioned on the air. That's not to say it wouldn't be useful for some people, but usefulness isn't good enough criteria for something to be included.
 * - apologies for jumping in on your talk page :) --&mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  |  23:25, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I think has responded well. Frank, I hope you'll reconsider. We welcome your contributions and are more than willing to offer some guidance and lend a hand. (Thanks for commenting, Ryan). Best regards,  Cindy  ( talk ) 05:56, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Bryce Cass
Hello! I am new to Wikipedia (not viewing, but using) and I created a page last night for Bryce Cass that you deleted. I am not sure if I am supposed to contact you in a different way? Please let me know if this is wrong. I am wondering what I need to do to restore this page. It says he has no references and I am listing a few more here: He was a cast member of Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader, and had a recurring role on Barney and Friends, has been in several feature films, and done modeling and commercials. I am not sure of the requirements to have a page, so I wanted to check and find out. Thanks so much for your help. I really appreciate your patience and guidance. Thanks, &mdash; Eyewikip 12:49, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * First, welcome to Wikipedia, Eyewikip! And thanks for contacting me. I'm not sure where you are seeing that the article had no references. I did see some sources in the article, but they did not meet the requirements for reliability or independence. The article was actually deleted because it was a recreation of an article that was previously deleted following a community discussion. I reviewed the previous version along with the newer version and found that it did not address the concerns brought up in the discussion, while it also failed to expand or improve on the previous version. I've also reviewed the additional links you've provided and none present any information about Cass, outside of a mere mention of his name. At the same time, we cannot use blogs, IMDb, Wikipedia, or other self-published and user-generated content as citations. As far as the requirements to retain content in the encyclopedia, the essential requirement to consider is notability. We have the general notability guidelines, along with the topical notability guidelines. I don't see that the subject meets the topical notability guidelines for actors. And when we look at the general notability guidelines, which require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, we fail to meet the threshold for notability. All that said, you can certainly request another discussion to have the community weigh in with the additional sources you have indicated here. Just go to WP:DRV and follow the instructions provided. Personally, though, I would try to focus on drafting an article in a subpage of your userspace and working to find several reliable and independent sources about the subject. We would need to locate sources that significantly discuss Cass, rather than mere reviews of projects in which he has appeared. If he has not appeared in significant roles or has not received significant press coverage, unfortunately, he is not yet ready to be included in the encyclopedia. If you have more questions or need further help, feel free to drop me a line anytime. Best regards,  Cindy  ( talk ) 21:27, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Suncorp Insurance
Hi Cindamuse

The Suncorp Insurance page was 'created' today by, and I found that it was actually a re-creation as you tagged it for CSD on 19 December. Perhaps you can take a look and see if it's any better than the one you tagged? It did have only primary sources, so I marked it for 'refimprove' and 'more footnotes'. And I see you are now an Admin! Congratulations, now the work starts! ;-) 220  of  Borg 03:07, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. I appreciate the kind words. I reviewed the article following your note here. While the article contained unambiguously promotional content, I deleted it primarily due to the copyright violation. I initially thought there may be content to retain after an edit, however, I found little else beyond the use of protected material culled from the company's website. Hope all is well! If you have more questions, please feel free to drop me a line. Cindy  ( talk ) 09:12, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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Didn't you read the Sport Auto logo inside this Weebly page?
http://sport-auto-auf-der-9.weebly.com/ It is not 100% Weebly. Altimgamr (talk) 06:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This is 100% unreliable. As well, this statement is wholly inappropriate. Continued vandalism will result in a block of your editing privileges. Cindy  ( talk ) 06:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

It's Sport Auto, Cindy. It even has a logo inside that Weebly page. The logo also links you there. You [probably] don't know anything about computers, don't you? 166.137.176.163 (talk) 06:36, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Gaames Unlimited
Hi Could you please tell me why the page Gaames Unlimited was deleted, It contained refrenced information and was credible in every wayShireenDJ (talk) 09:19, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. The article was deleted primarily due to unambiguous promotional content. Note also that much of the material was very close paraphrasing from several pages on the Gaames Unlimited website. Going forward, I would recommend creating a draft article in a subpage of your userspace, for example, at User:ShireenDJ/Gaames Unlimited. Once you are ready, you can submit to the Articles for Creation team at WP:AFC, which will allow others to provide input and assistance. Once it meets the minimum requirements for notability, a member of the team will move the article to the mainspace. I also recommend reviewing the guidelines and assistance for editors with conflicts of interest. If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact me anytime. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 09:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Your attention needed
The locked editor appears to be in the wild, now as an IP:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times#Saleen_Crown_Victoria_S281_Sedan

Same bad English, same Weebly forgeries, same preoccupation with fast cars. Checkuser will likely know more. Probably not even needed, apparently, he logged in a again on his Cingular phone and moved from 166.137.176.163 to 166.137.208.19. Thank you! BsBsBs (talk) 09:12, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Those two IPs were blocked earlier today (yesterday). Feel free to ping me if you see others jumping in the fray. As a side note, a checkuser isn't actually done on IPs. Instead, we assess behavioral patterns to determine socks and block evasion. Cindy  ( talk ) 10:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)


 * 166.137.208.25 also, but it's an AT&T phone, so pretty much hopeless. Thank's for the checkuser tip, too much information! BsBsBs (talk) 10:32, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Mongolian Bankers Association
The article does look like marketing but with the right editing and rephrasing it could be encyclopaedia material. Deletion is hasty. MBA is a notable organization apparently. Look it up on the internet. I did and I believe the article needs editing according to guidelines not a delete. SandisterTei (talk) 08:02, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. I appreciate your thoughts and agree that, generally speaking, editing to bring article content into compliance with policy and guidelines is the desired course of action. That said, this particular article was wholly inappropriate due not only to the unambiguous promotional content, but also the copyright violation, which is in direct conflict with both Wikipedia policy and US copyright law. Accordingly, articles of this nature cannot be removed soon enough. If you have additional questions, please feel free to ask. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 08:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * All your concerns are valid but are issues that can be fixed. I want to do that. Restore the article. I will just fix it. SandisterTei (talk) 09:16, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * While I appreciate the passion, your request reflects a misunderstanding of the policies which guide and govern the project. This article was deleted in accordance with the deletion policy. Firstly, we cannot allow promotional content within the project. Secondly, the content used to create this article is protected under US Copyright law. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions are deleted. The Wikimedia Foundation and the Wikipedia community takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators are blocked from editing. Accordingly, restoring this article would be wholly inappropriate. Sorry. Cindy  ( talk ) 10:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You can't keep this article off Wikipedia forever. You can however guide how it can be written in accordance to the rules. It's notable, copyright infringement can be fixed with rewriting. "marketing" language can also be fixed with rewriting. Deleting it is a short cut method. Solve the real problem. SandisterTei (talk) 11:03, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Notability has not yet been established. Yes, copyright violations and promotional content can certainly be addressed through rewriting. In all honesty, this article would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. This process will not be initiated with a restoration of the article. If you wish to create an article about the Mongolian Bankers Association, you need to write the article in your own words, while maintaining neutrality and refraining from presenting promotional content. Again, I'm not going to restore this article. I would recommend submitting a request to deletion review. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 12:39, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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In regards to The Labor Union
I was still editing the page when all of a sudden I saw a speedy deletion tag on the page The Labor Union. I have added more to the page since then so would like to know if it is still being considered for speedy deletion? TwinTurbo (talk) 22:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The concern here is that you are creating inappropriate articles existing solely of categories. Then when the article is flagged for speedy deletion in accordance with the deletion policy, you remove deletion tags from articles you have created yourself. The removal of these templates is a violation of policy which can actually result in a block or suspension of your editing privileges. In the future, it is recommended that you create a draft version first, which you can then ask for feedback on if necessary, with less risk of deletion. In all, don't ever remove deletion templates from any more articles. If you have questions or need help, please feel free to drop me a line anytime. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 22:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Presidents of Notre Dame
Hello, I had put quite some effort in creating that page, and you just deleted it all. Couldn't you just delete that part that you thought was against copyright? Now I have to start all over again. That's just unfair and very unkind of you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eccekevin (talk • contribs) 17:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This article was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia policy due to the blatant copyright violation. In all honesty, it's not a matter of fairness or kindness. However, I would note that unauthorized use of material protected by US Copyright law is a bit disrespectful to the owners of the work. If you choose to start all over again, I would recommend that you draft a version of the article in a subpage of your userspace. Please make sure to write the article in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violation very seriously. It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently fail to do so, must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to contact me anytime. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 18:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)