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User talk:Torlib
Seems to me this editor is correct -- that account is covered by the gallery, library, and museum exception. --jpgordon:==( o ) 17:54, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. It may be possible that the GLAM exception is no longer valid. The guidelines there actually state that the user account should be [theirs] alone (not shared) and should not be named after [their] institution. The block was also made following an OTRS conversation and a desire to control and own the Toronto Public Library article. There's also an interesting conversation on the talk page there about shared accounts for GLAM participants. In all honesty, thanks for contacting me. If you find some information (either historical or current) about the exception, I would sincerely like to read it. Hope you have a great weekend! Cindy  ( talk ) 01:32, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Deleting "Rixton (band)"
Hello! I am the author of "Rixton (band)", an article which was recently deleted, cited as "unambiguously promotional" and "lacking explanation of significance". I would like some clarification, however, because I would like to know how to better explain its significance (the band is very significant, as it has over 1,000,000 views on YouTube, has made made global music news with organizations like MTV, and has been played on Sirus XM Hits 1). I am not very experienced at writing articles, so I can understand that I probably did a lot of things wrong. For the other citation, "unambiguously promotional content", I would like to have it pointed out where I was promoting the band. I am in no way affiliated with Rixton or Scooter Braun, and I do not personally know any of them in any way. In fact, I am not even from the same country as the band, so I would have no reason to promote them, and any promotion was accidental. If you could please tell me where I promoted them, I would be more than happy to fix it. Thanks! :)Nick towne98 (talk) 18:20, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * If I may butt in here (I had Cindamuse's Talk page on my Watch list and never took it off, and saw this interesting conversation), one thing to remember Nick is that YouTube acclaim or views does not equate to notability in Wikipedia's standards. In fact, if that's all that's mentioned, it often makes an article on a band or a performer suspect. Take a look at Wikipedia's guidelines at WP:GNG and WP:BAND. Rixton may in fact meet those guidelines, but you need to prove it in your article by listing, mentioning, or quoting – and citing via footnote – the relevant non-YouTube reliable source mentions. In addition, a new article on a subject which has already had an article deleted (as this one had in August 2013), is automatically going to be under extreme scrutiny and will probably need to be bullet-proof to avoid a similar deletion. If you still feel the band meets the notability requirements linked above, and still feel it merits an encyclopedia article, you could create a draft on your user-space, or via the WP:Articles for creation, or check in with the WP:Teahouse, and have someone vet the completed draft before you post it on Wikipedia. That way, you are probably saved the disappointment of having your article deleted (happens to most all of us at some point, but we learn from it). Anyway, I'll let Cindamuse talk now. :) Softlavender (talk) 23:03, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Nick! Thanks for contacting me. In all honesty, I think said it very well. There is often semantic confusion over the definition of publicity, promotion, and advertising. One of the ways to better understand the criteria pertaining to appropriate inclusion on Wikipedia is to determine if the article has been written or edited in an attempt to manage the public's perception of the subject of the article. Common subjects of articles that are often written to promote include persons or groups. I would venture to say that we see promotion of a new unremarkable band at least once every five minutes. Simply announcing the existence of a subject, while failing to indicate how or why the subject may be important or significant would be considered inappropriate. Essentially, in this particular case, the article was merely promoting awareness of the band, rather than presenting notability. Notability must be established and presented through reliable and independent sources before inclusion on Wikipedia can be accepted. You can read more about our notability guidelines HERE and HERE. Hope this helps. If you have more questions, feel free to contact me anytime.  Cindy  ( talk ) 01:52, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cindy and Softlavender! :) I think I'll try submitting a draft to the Articles for Creation. Thanks for the help with that, especially since I'm new to writing articles. Nick towne98 (talk) 00:19, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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Muckle book as a made-up word
I didn't invent it. The turn of phrase was used in the book I cited. I looked up "muckle," in this case, as a variation of "mickle" and thus the word has the meaning of "very large." The Oxford English Dictionary defines "muckle" as a variation of "mickle," but also has the separate definition of "A heavy maul used for killing cod." Separately, the OED defines "mickle" first as an adjective for "great" particularly with respect to size, bulk or stature. I didn't find many web references to it, including on WP, but I agree it might not warrant an encyclopedia entry. I didn't have my copy of the OED handy for reference, but it's a moot point as the article is deleted. Varricknunez (talk) 18:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for contacting me. In essence, the phrase or descriptive "muckle book" rests within the imagination of Ian Rankin. He made it up. Outside of a possible mention in his article, it is inappropriate to create an encyclopedia article about the subject. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions. Cindy  ( talk ) 00:42, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

The Index (Kalamazoo College)
Hello Cindamuse, I created a page for Kalamazoo College's student newspaper earlier today and noticed recently that you redirected it to the general Kalamazoo College page. I'm still a novice on Wikipedia and completely understand why the redirect occurred. Would it be possible for me to retrieve the code and content that I added thus far? I would really like to expand on what was written in order to have an article that conforms to Wikipedia's notability standards. Best, Gkey12 (talk) 02:24, 30 March 2014 (UTC)Gkey12
 * Welcome to Wikipedia! Glad you are here. I went ahead and userfied the article to your userspace at User:Gkey12/The Index (Kalamazoo College). At this point, the article needs to clearly state how the subject is important and/or significant. Then, support the claims in the article through significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. If you need help or have any questions, please feel free to drop me a line. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 02:47, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

BULL (student magazine)
Hi there, I was wondering if I could get the work back from the article BULL (student magazine) as I am working more on the article. Thank you Notatory (talk) 05:51, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem! I've placed a copy on the talk page of your draft. Notice that I've also removed the Wikiproject template and categories. We can restore these if the article is moved to the mainspace. Cindy  ( talk ) 02:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Hi Cindamuse, Thanks for welcoming me to Wikipedia! It was a shame that the page was deleted as its was intended to provide information on a valuable open source resource. I attempted to use the same format at similar projects on Wikipedia, such as Twinkle_(software), Slrn, SipX and others. I see now that the text used in the opening paragraph should have been modified, but I am a little confused at how to proceed, specifically weather I should attempt to modify the content or abandon it completely lest it be deleted again? Auscaster (talk) 11:17, 30 March 2014 (UTC) Kam Low Heya! Just wanted to say thanks again. I have read all the information you send me and reposted the article to my user space: User:Auscaster/LibSourcey. I'm sure you're busy, but I would love any feedback if you have a spare moment. Auscaster (talk) 12:56, 30 March 2014 (UTC) Kam Low
 * At this point, I've deleted the content again, due to blatant copyright violations and promotional content. When I deleted the initial version, I placed some information on your talk page, which specifically addressed this violation and how to move forward from here. Please do not post this content again. Understand that editors who persistently violate the copyright policy are summarily blocked. In all sincerity, nobody wants that. We would rather have you around to help build the project. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 02:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

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Agricultural Research Organization - Volcani Center
Hi Cindamuse - I added citations to outside sources (books, journal articles, websites, newspaper articles, OECD report, EC reports, and others) to support all statements and demonstrate notability. I endeavored to input all the citations correctly. Also, I updated the organization history in accordance with references I uncovered. Since I believe that all issues are now addressed, I removed the issue tags. Hope you will agree. Thanks again for all the work you did on this page; I learned a lot about Wikipdia from it :). e1baa340@opayq.com (talk) 04:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
 * While you've sufficiently addressed notability, unfortunately, you've also introduced more issues. My general editing process would simply go ahead and clean up the issues, but the cleanup keeps getting reverted, so I've just gone ahead and placed the maintenance templates. Feel free to contact me again if you have questions. Cindy  ( talk ) 06:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

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Cheadle Hulme School requested edit
Hi - As the last person to have a look at my requested edits on the Cheadle Hulme School Talk Page I wonder if you could look at the most recent couple I posted on there?

I've used some secondary sources and have added more explanations.

Your help would be much appreciated.

Many thanks.Timhudsonchs (talk) 10:30, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Wakefield City Police
Hi there - I see that you've deleted Wakefield City Police - could it be reinstated? It's a page about a statutory police force within West Yorkshire which was in operation between 1848 and 1968; similar in vein to Bradford City Police and Barnsley Borough Police etc. BNC85 (talk) 12:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, there was nothing to indicate how the subject is significant or important. And all of the sources provided were self-published. I would recommend working on a draft in a subpage of your userspace. In all honesty, when you compare one article to another, it generally just brings other poorly written articles into focus, resulting in their deletion as well. Cindy  ( talk ) 12:13, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me - I think I mistakenly put 'Self published' as I couldn't find an publisher, but the book has been loaned from a library and has an ISBN reference of ISBN: X5006479X6. I would suggest that it is significant as it's a historical organisation, a former police force within the United Kingdom and notable as it links in with the history of the City of Wakefield. On this merit, would it be suitable to be reinstated? Many thanks in advance BNC85 (talk) 12:19, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Lakedale Power Tools
Hi, noticed that you have deleted lakedale power tools page, could i please have some tips on exactly where i went wrong in the article and how i can resolve it to get the page created, can you give me a copy on my userpage? thanks. Yesson20(talk)
 * The article was deleted due to the lack of asserted significance or importance. At the same time, it was blatantly and wholly promotional. Essentially, it stated that the store existed, that customer service was important, and then you listed all the products and tools that the store offers. As sources, you simply listed all the distributors or points of sale. When we create encyclopedic articles, we must establish notability for the organization through significant coverage in reliable and independent sources. Accordingly, the article was deemed highly promotional and lacking significance. I've userfied the article to User:Yesson20/Lakedale Power Tools. Please make sure to review the notability guidelines. When you are ready, you can either contact me or send the article to the Articles for Creation team, who will review the article then move it to the mainspace when they determine that it meets the minimum requirements. As a side note, please make sure to sign all of your comments by placing four tildes at the end, i.e., ~ . This will trigger the software to automatically sign your name with the appropriate links and date of your post. Hope this helps.  Cindy  ( talk ) 01:00, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of 960 Music Group
Hello, I noticed that you have deleted 960 Music Group page, where did i go wrong please? I really want to get the page created and or re-instated, and can you give me a copy on my userpage? Femismyth (talk) 12:54, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Essentially, you failed to indicate how the subject is significant or important. The content established that the company exists and has a few musicians on their label. The sources provided were videos, blogs, and a couple of article that merely mentioned the name "960 Music Group" in passing. Has the organization done anything significant or important? Has the organization received any honors or awards? When we look at notability for organizations, we consider whether or not the subject has received significant coverage in reliable and independent sources. Once we determine this, the article can be retained. Does the organization meet this threshold? Your best bet is to do some research to find coverage of the organization. We're not looking for coverage of the bands or musicians on the label. We're looking for significant coverage about 960 Music Group. Hope this helps. I notice that you already have the article at Articles for Creation, so I guess you have the copy. If you have more questions, please feel free to drop me a line. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 01:24, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry I'm Pleading You.
Hi Cindamuse! Pleaseeeee can you pleaseeeee deactivate the admin lock? I reeeeeeaallllllyyyyy wanna edit it!!!!!! Official cover's out, at iTunes. Official track listing's out, at iTunes. 2 singles, 2 upcoming singles. 4 already. A must-have page... Please! Sorry I'm Late (Cher Lloyd album) ---> just in case you forget. Thanks!!!!!! -- Nahnah4 Any thoughts? Pen 'em down here! 08:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * My guidance hasn't changed over the past couple of weeks. AGAIN, this article was deleted as a result of community discussion that stated that notability has not yet been established. I will not restore this article. AGAIN, if you have significant new information which has come to light since the deletion (or redirect in this case) which would justify recreating the article, you can request undeletion at this link. Cindy  ( talk ) 08:34, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Imagine Dragons' Second Studio Album
Hey there! I noticed you deleted the "Imagine Dragons' second studio album" article, but I am a bit annoyed that you didn't at least notify me or put it up for speedy deletion instead! I honestly thought it was a reasonable article, and it took nearly 4 hours to write up. Is there any way I can at least recover it so that I can move 4 hours worth of written material over to my user space? Also, I've read many deletion responses on the talk page, and I understand why it was deleted. I just want to know if I, personally, can get the written material back, that is all! RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 09:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I've userfied the article to User:RazorEyeEdits/Imagine Dragons' second studio album. Please do not recreated this article until the title, track, and release date has been confirmed directly from the artist or their label. Cindy  ( talk ) 10:03, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thankyou! RazorEye ⡭ ₪ ·o' ⍦ ࿂ 10:05, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem! Cindy  ( talk ) 10:09, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Ant-Man (film)
Thank you for deleting Talk:Ant-Man (film) but can also delete Ant-Man (film). The article was moved without discussion and we want to move it back so we have a proper page move request first.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 10:59, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Restoration of the page Sandeep Bhatnagar
The page Sandeep Bhatnagar was deleted because of no web content. I have found some web content in a news paper in local language "Hindi". The link to the online newspaper content is: "http://epaper.haribhoomi.com/Details.aspx?id=23446&boxid=152156548" Please restore the page as soon as possible. This is a rough translation of the same page" Bhilai. During this reporting Sandeep journalists and told the story of his struggle. Born into a middle class family from the beginning of Bhilai Sandeep wanted to pursue a career in acting in films. He loved acting since childhood. He plays several times during the school participated. There he Balaji Institute for Creative Excellence in Acting course of three months. Mumbai in December 2012 after nearly two and a half years' struggle 'Ragini MMS-2' got a call to audition for the job. The isolated after day five times to audition for the role of Pandeyji selected. About character He was shot during the shooting Pandeyji Long's character, but too many scenes omitted during editing. Sunny Leone is the heroine of the film in its original form has been introduced earlier. The struggle continues Sandeep Bhatnagar foothold in Bollywood, Mumbai still continues to struggle. They all want to play. Gujarati film to be released in the next few months is the one. He recalled that in his struggling days in Bollywood is the work of a very courageous struggle. The day of the fall production Hauson circle and have to knock on the doors of people. He said his desire that young Bhilai come forward and show their talents in various fields. Books Released On the occasion of journalist Santosh Thakur Book sheaf of my memories of "the English steel city - known novelist rising young novelist symbol Abhishek Agarwal and Agarwal hands of Tilda resident was released. Please help Google Translate improve quality for your language here. Google Translate for Business:Translator ToolkitWebsite Translator"'''
 * This article was deleted due to a lack of asserted significance or importance. If you wish to create this article, please draft a copy in a subpage of your userspace. When you are ready, you should submit the article to the Articles for Creation team. When it meets the minimum requirements, a team member will then move it to the mainspace. For further information, I would recommend reviewing the general notability guidelines and the topical notability guidelines for actors. You can find information about reliable sources here. Best regards, Cindy  ( talk ) 14:14, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Recreation of Cabo Love
I think user should be banned, he created same article again and again that were deleted before. A.Minkowiski (talk) 15:24, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstand the definition of a ban or block, along with the policy and process by which these actions are carried out. In all regards, this title has been protected from recreation. Cindy  ( talk ) 15:34, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Its better if the title has been protected from recreation.A.Minkowiski (talk) 16:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Cabo Love
hi Cindamuse, srry for making the cabo love wikipage over and over again. I am new here so i have no experience on wikipage. but i want too know why u deleted my Cabo Love wikipage. pls help  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micheal28 (talk • contribs) 15:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Question for you. Why did you continue to create the same article over and over again when you were continually told that it was inappropriate? Did you see the reason for deletion as noted at the article? Did you compare the article you wrote to the one we already have on the same subject? Do you think it is necessary to have several different articles on the same subject? Cindy  ( talk ) 15:51, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

rifts
what do you mean by unsourced album — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qrs22 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * When we create articles on Wikipedia, our process includes indicating where we found the information to write the material. We retain articles in accordance with the general notability guidelines, which require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. We also have the notability guidelines for albums. The minimum threshold required to forgo speedy deletion is an assertion of significance or importance. In all honesty, this article was not supported by any sources of any kind. Rather than outright deletion, I opted to simply redirect the article to the artist's article. Hope this helps. Cindy  ( talk ) 00:18, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

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Cleanup tag resolution question: 07 April 2014
Hi Cindamuse, You left a couple of cleanup tags on a page I was editing (and trying to cleanup). I use this resource in my research so have an interest in trying to make it accurate: this one Experimental Factor Ontology I believe I (and I see someone else too) have tidied this up now 'I think'. How does one normally go about finding out if it meets copy guidelines now? How does one normally go about resolving those tags? I didn't want to just delete them without asking. Thanks for your help. Schnagglepuss (talk) 10:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Help with my new wiki page
Thank you for your help on my new page 'Mark Levinson' and for helping to resolve the pages for the director vs the audio company! Im new to wikipedia editing, first only providing copy edits, then with time feeling a little more bold to add content. Im excited to help improve scientific articles and promote scientific education, so took a (risk) at creating a new page for the director of the documentary that tells the story of work at CERN's particle accelerator. I suppose we all make mistakes in the process of learning, and I felt I had erred in creating q page for someone who didnt meet the significance criteria. You really sorted it out, and I so very much appreciate positive mentorship from experienced editors. Happy to learn, happy to share learning. Best Regards, January2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by January2009 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Username block
While User:The Economist Magazine is certainly an unacceptable username, I think it was a bit WP:BITEy of you to block the user, who is editing constructively, less than an hour after I had given them a uw-username notice explaining the problem and inviting them to request CHU or set up a new account. It is true that they made a couple more edits after that, but one might well want to take a little time about thinking up a new username. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:09, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. In all honesty, I missed the notice you placed. Dang. Cindy  ( talk ) 16:14, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries - he seems to have got the message and started another account as before the block, so he wasn't inconvenienced. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 09:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

ADITYA NEHRA
Hope he might get your point. He were repeatedly removing tags, infact his article were pure copyvio. I am new editor, doing my tireless efforts and fighting against vandalism manually. Regarding this user, I left message on Admin notice board also. My efforts haven't been appreciated by anyone yet :-( A.Minkowiski (talk) 17:02, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Draft article
Hello - trying to figure out how to submit a draft article for review. Content was neutral without any promotional adjectives that I can tell, and company has several hundred college bookstores, so it is a legitimate business with a national footprint. Please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nebraskanative Nebraskanative (talk) 18:54, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I also tried this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nebraskanative/Nebraska_book_company — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebraskanative (talk • contribs) 19:05, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

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Fetch TV
Hello, Cindamuse. User:Shayle1 has again reinserted promotional material into the page Fetch TV. Instead of reverting, I thought I'd let you know. Thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 07:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi there,

I've been trying to update the Fetch TV wiki page and everytime I update it you seem to delete it, claiming that the information is used to promote or advertise. Can you please advise the specific information you're referring too?

I've researched it in extensive detail, have found relevant third party sites that have been referenced throughout the article so I don't understand why you still believe it's promotional.

The information that was originally included on the page was inaccurate, yet this seemed to remain on the page. I've provided factual updates and it is getting deleted.

If you could advise, that would be great.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shayle1 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * and, I will help out with this as I am willing to step in as a neutral third-party contributor. In terms of the material Shayle, it reads like a blatant advertisement for the company, which should never be included on Wikipedia. Instead, what is on the page right now is very good for the article, as it reads in a neutral tone. That being said, we welcome contributions to the site, so if you want to add information, you should have a third-party source (i.e. someone not connected to Fetch) look at it to check for neutrality. If possible, lets move the discussion to my page, as I would be more than willing to help in the future. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:15, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

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