User talk:Cinefan Cinefan

Category:Deceased has been nominated for discussion
Category:Deceased, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 04:47, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

February 2019
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Larry Hockett (Talk) 05:22, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Signature
Please add your signature when you contribute to discussions, by means of adding four tildes: ~. See also WP:SIGNATURES. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Unsourced birth dates
Hi. I wanted to explain why I reverted a change you made to Carolyn Lawrence. In, you added a birth date, but you didn't cite a reliable source. Wikipedia has strict rules on content in biographies of living persons because this can impact real peoples' lives. Please be aware the many sites on the internet purport to give information about celebrities, but few of them of reliable. Sites like the IMDb use user-generated content, and they should not be cited in biographical articles. Similarly, celebrity gossip websites should not be used because most of them don't have a history of fact checking or publishing corrections. We also can't use primary documents, such as government birth databases. This means that the number of available sources is quite slim, and we have to either go without this information or wait until a source like Entertainment Weekly publishes an interview that includes this information. If you're not sure whether a source is reliable, you can ask at WP:RSN. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:44, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Failed assassination attempt survivors has been nominated for discussion
Category:Failed assassination attempt survivors, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Le Deluge (talk) 13:03, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Category:People who are dead
This is not a good category. The same purpose is already served by categories like Category:1900 deaths. Please don't add it to any more articles while I nominate it for deletion. Thanks. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I just think there should be a category for anyone that is dead. Sorry. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 17:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * There is. Category:Dead people and its subcategories. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:59, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * What I meant is one that we could add stuff to. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 18:18, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:People who are dead


A tag has been placed on Category:People who are dead requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:57, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Alright, I totally understand, albeit I still believe there should be a category for people who are dead. But I'm not going to protest against this speedy deletion or anything. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 17:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Deceased


A tag has been placed on Category:Deceased requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:58, 5 May 2019 (UTC)


 * I stopped using this article immediately so yeah, delete it. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 18:00, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Category:People who are dead has been nominated for discussion
Category:People who are dead, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Gangster8192 18:18, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Please wait
Hi, thanks for your contributions. However, please don't add parent category to articles for example if (category:death in 2007) exists then no need for (category:21st-century deaths) since it is the parent category it's like the big circle that contains all of subcategories as circles inside it so we don't add the same article/subject to both the big circle and the small circle inside it--SharabSalam (talk) 21:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)


 * is correct. You should not add articles about people directly to Category:20th-century deaths etc., when they are already in the subcategory for the particular year of their death. As a rule, there should not be any articles about people in those categories; if there were some in there before you started, they were probably mistakes. I've added templates to those categories as reminders. Please review WP:DIFFUSE, and please go back and undo the many edits you made recently, that placed such articles in these categories. Thanks. --IamNotU (talk) 22:30, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Category:Deceased
You were told, multiple times, not to add pages to Category:Deceased or similar. Why do you continue to do so? This is very close to ending up in Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

As for "Apologies if you don't want this category to be edited anymore but personally since the category's been technically removed, adding people to it shouldn't be that harmless, doesn't really contribute anything but it's already deleted so"

Please read Categorization: "An article should never be left with a non-existent (redlinked) category on it. Either the category should be created, or else the link should be removed or changed to a category that does exist." And continuing to do what you've been told not to do harm; it's WP:DISRUPTIVE. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:43, 15 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Okay. Now... explain how there are several people that I didn't add to the "Perpetrators of crimes against humanity" that are still up there. Exactly. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 22:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I can tell you they shouldn't be. I checked a few and they were added, by somebody else, before the category was deleted. Now that the category is gone, the categorizations should go as well. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:02, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

May 2019
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Muammar Gaddafi, you may be blocked from editing. ''No more silliness with "dead people" categories please. It has already been explained to you why things are the way they are.'' IamNotU (talk) 02:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
 * If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.


 * I don't even care anymore but okay. Don't even know why I still use this anymore either. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 02:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Notice that I have raised concerns about your editing at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
There is currently a discussion at ANI regarding your persistent disruptive editing. The thread is Pattern of disruptive editing from User:Cinefan Cinefan.

Mccapra (talk) 09:15, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Fyi, the links above don't work. The thread is: --IamNotU (talk) 17:46, 26 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Apologies. It’s the first time I’ve used the template and have obviously used it clumsily. Mccapra (talk) 18:25, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

May 2019
You have been blocked from editing for a period of indef for block evasion, sock of Accopulocrat. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. User:Ymblanter (talk) 12:11, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, I would just like to say I'm not a sock of Accopulocrat, maybe I have similar interests to him but I didn't even know who that was until you told me, and I am still not entirely aware of it. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You are free to make an unblock request as described above, to be reviewed, though you will need to explain why we think you are that user when you are not; Accopulocrat is under a CheckUser block, meaning there is technical evidence of some sort of relationship between different accounts. 331dot (talk) 15:46, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I made an unblock request but the unblock request just told me to come over here, but either way, I still wasn't aware of the Accopulocrat user and his interests until Ymblanter mentioned them. I never make sockpuppet accounts though for one. Once I have an account, I stay with that account. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 15:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, you need to make your request here. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I now unblocked you since doubts have been expressed at ANI that you are indeed a sock of Accopulocrat. Please note that your behavior was still not acceptable. Please go now to ANI and explain it. If you continue editing in the same manner without giving an explanation at ANI you will likely be blocked again.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:49, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Shit I was posting something but it got erased. Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 17:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Categories
Hi there after I saw your Pinochet edit, I had a peek and saw you've been putting the Critics of Marxism category on several historical figures who were notorious for... killing dissenters, including Marxists. I am certainly no fan of these various butchers, but the category seems more than a little WP:POINTed. Now I'm not going to go chasing all over Wikipedia reverting these on you; but I would suggest that many of them are likely inappropriate. And in cases where you've added both this and the anti-communist category tag, your use of this category may in fact increase the likelihood that your more relevant category tags get deleted.

I would suggest you might want to consider erasing the Critics of Marxism tag where the anti-communist tag is more relevant and appropriate. Simonm223 (talk) 18:20, 21 June 2019 (UTC)


 * "Marxism is like a ghost, it is very difficult to catch, even impossible to trap." - Augusto Pinochet Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Invite to RfC (Request for Comment) at Reagan article on Iran-Contra
Hi,

You're invited to an RfC on the question of, "Within the section on the Iran-Contra affair, should we include the aspect of drug trafficking on the part of some Nicaraguan Contras?"

Talk:Ronald_Reagan

Thanks,

FriendlyRiverOtter (talk) 16:06, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Cats
On the basis of what are you adding those two cats — and removing that one cat, in turn? El_C 16:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Albeit I did add Hitler to the "anti-communism" category and Thatcher to it (who got removed), I've since then realized that I don't think there should really be a specific person under that category, maybe put them under "Critics of Marxism"? And also, Khomeini was anti-fascist, found out about here: https://www.nytimes.com/1979/10/07/archives/an-interview-with-khomeini.html Cinefan Cinefan (talk) 16:10, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure declaring tentative opposition to fascism based on Islamic philosophy is enough to describe someone as anti-fascist — I think there needs to be deep-rooted anti-fascists beliefs and even action, not just a mention in passing. So the addition of a cat to that effect seems a bit dubious. Likewise for anti-capitalism, which also seems like a bit of a stretch — returning to some sort of Islamic proto-capitalism, in theory (in the modern world), is not the same as taking a strong anti-capitalist stand, with action. Repression of communists and other secular socialists were, however, acts taken by the Islamic government he led, so the removal of that cat also seems questionable. I dunno, maybe bring this to the article talk page and, with the aid of reliable sources, see if you can gain consensus for your changes...(?) Because, for me at least, they are not adding up. El_C 16:22, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Category:Survivors of assassination attempts has been nominated for discussion
Category:Survivors of assassination attempts, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor(talk) 05:57, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

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