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SALVATORE RUOCCO moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to SALVATORE RUOCCO. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it needs more sources to establish notability and structurally it's needs major work. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 16:13, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: SALVATORE RUOCCO (May 20)
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Theroadislong (talk) 17:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: SALVATORE RUOCCO (May 20)
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KylieTastic (talk) 18:02, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: SALVATORE RUOCCO (May 21)
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KylieTastic (talk) 22:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:SALVATORE RUOCCO has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:SALVATORE RUOCCO. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 19:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

salvatore ruocco notes
i couldn't find the comment button on the draft, so i'll just do it here

just some things you should keep in mind if you want that article approved


 * a picture can help the article look somewhat presentable, but it has to be free. if you have one you took yourself for some hopefully legal reason, it shows him front and center and is higher quality than the average ps1 texture, you can try submitting it, but otherwise, the one already on italian wp should do just fine
 * i'm 100% completely sure imdb is not a reliable source (as said in the comments in the draft), but only 80% sure huffington post, rotten tomatoes, and allmovie aren't. this also seems to be a problem in the italian article
 * inline citations for just about every sentence is pretty much a must for blp's
 * i don't know if there was a personal life section that got mostly king crimson'd out of existence, but the draft says "he was born in naples- and that's how he was brought in to work with shia labeouf". the italian article goes a bit more in depth, but i can't actually read italian beyond my understanding of the somewhat similar language that is portuguese
 * you don't need to worry about the language of the sources that mention him (besides stating that the non-english ones are, in fact, not in english), but they have to meet the reliable source criteria of being secondary (not related to him), focusing on him as opposed to only tangentially mentioning him in a footnote, and not being imdb. if none exist, he's probably not notable enough

cogsan •  (give me attention)  •  (see my deeds)  19:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you with all my heart, ok I'll try to improve immediately. Thanks again Cinefilm (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

cogsan Hi I tried to upload the photo with source: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18272884/mediaviewer/rm1012346625/?ref_=tt_md_4

But he doesn't accept it. How can I do? Thank you in advance Cinefilm (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * can't you use the exact same one from the italian article?
 * i'm pretty sure commons lets people use the same images for multiple languages cogsan  •  (give me attention)  •  (see my deeds)  21:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

This I think is more up to date since the film is from 2022. I try with the Italian wikipedia Thank youCinefilm (talk) 22:08, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * as of this revision, there are some more, worse problems
 * namely, the giant text block detailing his personal life being phrased like an autobiography reworded to be in third person (see wp:autobio and/or wp:blpstyle for info, but the short version is that claiming "he should have won that fight, he got cheated >:C" isn't wording that gets accepted here), having no sources, and being a giant text block
 * if it's copied from somewhere, it's probably good to source it, only quote the important parts, and only do so when it adds important info (or get rid of it because of the unencyclopedic wording, see wp:promo for info), and if it's not, it'd need to be heavily reworded and sourced... or gotten rid of since it's still phrased like a draw my life video
 * the grammar isn't really something to worry about as much though. i can try to do something about it once i actually understand the timeline, and maybe put that picture from the italian article in here too
 * lastly, try checking your edits with both the visual and source editors, so you can deal with those pesky ↵s cogsan  •  (give me attention)  •  (see my deeds)  12:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * HI cogsan
 * I edited the biography, made it shorter and more sensible.
 * I hope it goes well.
 * Thank you for the many tips, in addition to being a great professional, you are really kind.
 * I hope you will publish this page, I'm working hard on it. Cinefilm (talk) 23:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * nice. it's starting to look more complete
 * unfortunately, i don't actually have the ability to approve drafts (i think), so the best i can do is use the upcoming weekend to find the necessary sources soon cogsan  •  (give me attention)  •  (see my deeds)  00:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Cinefilm (talk) 09:14, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Salvatore Ruocco (September 25)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Salvatore Ruocco (October 4)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Kline was:

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Kline • talk to me! • contribs 20:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * gonna butt in and say that i don't think it's a coi, but probably more of a cir deal
 * they mostly seem to be forgetting to put the citations anywhere besides a lump at the end of the text, and resubmitting it without doing that
 * i tried to look for sources a small handful of times, but haven't actually found anything, which points to salvatore not being notable in general, but that's besides the point cogsan  •  (give me attention)  •  (see my deeds)  12:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Salvatore Ruocco (February 9)
 Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk/New_question&withJS=MediaWiki:AFCHD-wizard.js&page=Draft:Salvatore_Ruocco Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Ldm1954 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: The article has been declined multiple times, and there is no evidence that the author is prepared to edit it by including relevant sources. Currently it appears to be a translation of the Italian page, which also has no sources. (Different languages, different Wikipedia rules.) The article was deleted three years ago after a WP:AfD discussion, so I see no reason not to remove it.

Ldm1954 (talk) 22:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)