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September 2018
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October 2018
Hello, I'm Jellyman. I noticed that you made one or more changes to an article, Edusport Academy, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Jellyman (talk) 17:56, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the reference for the Edusport squad - I couldn't find anything on the academy website, didn't think look on the OFC site... Jellyman (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

November 2018
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Jesse Akubuine, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. GiantSnowman 17:10, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Reply
References were provided for the majority of changes, for example Ian Little. I used the official website of Whitehill Welfare F.C. but yet this was still reverted???

I feel only a minimum did not have references yet you have reverted most of my work. I will continue to update the SLFL, but if my hard work keeps getting reverted I feel I have no choice but to no longer contribute to this website.

All changes are 100% accurate, unfortunately there isn't a lot of sources as such on squads due to the nature of the league and moves happening often with websites not being updated by the clubs. It takes two mins on twitter to see a squad list or how a kit looks.

I cover the league as a job and just wanted to keep info up to date, if I can't then I won't. Simple as.
 * It's very simply - you need to provide reliable sources for every edit, and you need to use WP:EDITSUMMARIES to explain your edits. Doing that will avoid further reverts. GiantSnowman 08:53, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

I went over every edit I made and checked. There was some on the player profiles which were not referenced, I counted maybe 4 out of 20-30 edits of mine you reverted.

I thought the actual squad reference to clubs website which I have referenced on every squad I've done would be suffice for the player also (if you bothered to check) i.e official site. Your reverts were completely unjust on the majority, in my opinion. Majority had reliable sources i.e club website.

Also one edit you reverted for Craig O'Reilly and some others was fixing it up as the club was not correctly linked via wikipage, you have clearly not checked the edits you have reverted.

Also submitting [WP:EDITSUMMARIES]] to a squad list would be counterproductive, surely? As if a player is added to the official site i.e a reference already added, why would I need to describe it? You would just need to check the reference.

It's very simple - You saw one or two articles with no references and reverted 20 odd perfectly referenced articles.

November 2018
Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at User talk:GiantSnowman. Such edits are disruptive, and may appear to other editors to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 21:44, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for reverts
Hi there - in the recent past I mass reverted your edits. I should not have done that - whilst there might have been issues with some of your edits, I should not have undertaken a blanket revert, and should have taken more care to look at each individual edit, for example to see if I could improve it. For that I apologise. It might not seem it, but I am here to help - so please ask if you need anything. Sorry once again. GiantSnowman 09:41, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Response
Thank you Giant[[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]. No hard feelings. Nothing was ever personal. I appreciate you were just trying to make sure everything was above board on this site. Kind Regards.

Ryan Finnie
Do you have a source for the transfer please? GiantSnowman 11:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * If we can't verify the information using a reliable source then it needs to be removed. GiantSnowman 16:29, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the source! GiantSnowman 16:35, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Ryan Finnie response
[[User:GiantSnowman|Giant] https://staging.wesoccer.co.uk/en/fixture/2344/line-ups is used by the Scottish leagues to collect its data for the league, if that's not reliable then what is? The reason I know about the transfer as I was at the game and saw Ryan playing for Edusport, not as a trialist like Pat Scullion meaning he's signed with them. He does not appear on the Edinburgh City squad list nor their website. He has clearly moved to Edusport.

Apologies if you used talk page before I added source.

June 2020
Hi there - Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. You didn't provide a source for your changes to the Anton Brady article, and I couldn't find one either. If you have a reliable source please let me know and we can change the article. Please let me know if you have any questions. GiantSnowman 21:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Response
Ridiculous reverts again Giant[[User talk:GiantSnowman|Snowman]. Anyone can see what EK have won on the linked wiki pages. Respectfully, you need to get a grip or no doubt will be reprimanded again...


 * WP:WIKIPEDIAISNOTARELIABLESOURCE. The source you added merely confirms the club's honours, not the player's... GiantSnowman 15:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've done your job for you by finding and adding a source which explicitly confirms he won the honours. PS keep up with your personal attacks and I'll be seeking further action against you. GiantSnowman 15:20, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Response
If you done that in the first place- you wouldn't have had to revert perfectly accurate information... GiantSnowman

It's not personal but massive issues with correct information being removed and again what I was saying was 100% accurate. Think that's your issue, not mine.
 * No, you have a long track record of inadequately sourcing material about living people. That's a problem. GiantSnowman 15:24, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I was not calling you stupid by the way. I was merely saying the notion of players having not won honours when they were clearly at the club is ridiculous. Are the wiki pages themselves not sources by the way??? You just need eyes to see.

You have the track record of being reprimanded for your incompetence, not me. Revert everything I've ever done and we'll see who's work is more accurate mine or yours.

You haven't a clue, mate.

Complain about me if you want. Like to see you keep everything up to date without my help.

Cheers.

Minor edits
Hi Cipow! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Mutt Lunker (talk) 15:20, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Response
Hi, (talk)Lunker Thanks for the feedback. Do you know which article you are referring to? I often add one section/explaining what I've added in the description then touch it up in stages to ensure accuracy. Apologies, if this is not the correct way. I will endeavor to try and make better use of minor edits.

Kind Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cipow (talk • contribs)


 * Hi there, have a look at the link I posted above to see the explanation as to what a minor edit is. You've marked nearly all of your edits as minor but few of them are under the Wikipedia defintion. For example, I note you have added headings to various articles saying "Lowland League". These regard a matter of fact so do not count as minor edits; please don't mark them as such. This edit is certainly far from being a minor edit. Best wishes. Mutt Lunker (talk) 15:50, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. (talk)Lunker apologies for the misuse. I thought this would be acceptable as it was just adding a subheading for a head to head table referring to the league in which that stats concerned. No issues, I will add appropriate descriptions going forward. Thank you.


 * Yes, that's understandable but "minor edit" has a specific use here and anything that deals with even fairly trivial factual matters does not count as one. By the way, it's good practice to sign your posts, so that people can follow the dialogue when reading them; see WP:SIGHOW. Mutt Lunker (talk) 17:22, 29 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Just a reminder to please not do this. There's no particular issue with your edits otherwise and I'd encourage you to carry on the good work. Mutt Lunker (talk) 12:43, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Grant Anderson
You have been here long enough to know that providing references, especially to BLPs, is essential. I have found and added one for you at Grant Anderson (footballer). Please do not repeat this. GiantSnowman 11:35, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Grant Anderson Response
GiantSnowman

Please give me time to do so. I am still editing the page while you took the time to type this to me!!!!
 * It is not difficult to add the reference at the same time as you make the edit. I had enough time to see your edits, find a reference, and add it to the article... GiantSnowman 11:50, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I believe this is another personal motive reprimand which is uncalled for. It was mere minutes between my edits and the time it took you to send me this message. Also I was still in edit when I got the notice which created conflicts on the page. So in my opinion, uncalled for. Any more and I'll need to take it up with arbitration as it seems to be an issue with yourself and nothing to do with my work which I have tried to provide references for.

Daily Mail reference at Ondřej Kúdela
Hi. Please do not use the Daily Mail as you did at Ondřej Kúdela. It is not a reliable source. See WP:DAILYMAIL. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 09:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * --- Daily Record isn't a reliable source but BBC Scotland etc is? Interesting to know.
 * "Daily Record"? I don't see a mention of the Daily Record at WP:RSP. Robby.is.on (talk) 16:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Apologies, Robby. I thought it was the Record not the Mail.
 * No problem! Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 18:34, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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