User talk:Circeus/april2006

re: template cats header message
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Right now, I am copying and pasting the untemplated boilerplate text. If I remembered what the template actually was, I would have been substing it. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:24, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Now I rememeber: it's Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:26, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Template
Thanks for your help with Chicano/Mexican-American--Rockero 00:25, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with Kingston-Port Ewen Suspension Bridge
as you can see from the history I have had that article on ice for a while, what is cool about finally moving to article space is that people turn up to make it better. Your fixes much apprciated! Happy editing! (no reply necessary but here is fine, I watch) + +Lar: t/c 00:12, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Request for Adminship
Congratualations! Consensus having been reached, it is my pleasure to inform you that you are now an administrator on the English Wikipedia. Please take a moment to review the Administrators' reading list and the Administrators' how-to guide before using any of your shiny new buttons. :-) If you need assistance or advice, please feel free to request help from other administrators at the Administrator's Noticeboard and Administrator's Noticeboard for Incidents, or to leave a talk page message for me or any other admin. Again, congratulations! Essjay  Talk •  Contact 09:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Congrats! You deserve this and good luck for the future! -- S iva1979 Talk to me  15:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Basking Shark edit
I noticed the edit you made to the Basking Shark article and I just wanted to bring it to your attention that the link you removed was probably not linkspam as you put it. In fact, many animal articles on wikipedia include ARKive as an external reference as it includes many images and videos, as well as invaluable material, that we might not always have available on wikipedia. I went ahead and replaced the link, but just wanted to drop you a line to let you know. --ScottyBoy900Q ∞ 20:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Seconded by me. I'm returning the links as I find them missing. Circeus, can you explain what your objection was, please? - Adrian Pingstone 21:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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Removing links to ARKive Manta Ray movies
I reverted your deletion of the link to Arkive on the Manta ray page. You stated as reason that it was spam, which strikes me as kind of odd because ARKive is a non-profit charity and features many highly interesting movies which add considerably to wikipedia. Then I noticed that you deleted similar links on many other pages. May I ask the reasons behind your actions? And if there was no consensus decision for these deletions, could you please revert your changes? Thanks in advance. Janderk 22:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for your answer, explaining why you did it and for promising to fix any collateral damage that may have happened. Please be a bit more careful next time. Janderk 23:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for fixing things so quickly. No need to apologise, we all mess up from time to time. Janderk 00:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Update
comment The links appear to have been added by an unauthorized and anonymously operating bot. It edited roughly 200 articles in alphabetical order, deliberately avoided using any kind of edit summary, and didn't pass up the /Temp subpages either. — Apr. 7, '06 [13:20] <[ freakofnurxture]|[ talk]>

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 * I gave it 24 hours for spamming, when I saw that the edits were the same. Then I looked further and realized it was probably a bot. — Apr. 7, '06 [13:30] <[ freakofnurxture]|[ talk]>

CCRF
Hello Circeus, congratulations on your RfA. I was just wondering, references being revised, if you have an opinion on the CCRF FAC? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 11:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Nepenthes Template
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I don't know too much about the coding itself, but what bothers me is that your version leaves a lot of white space around the green header, which is not present in any other templates I can find. Mgiganteus1 00:38, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Culture of medieval Poland
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Tnx for moving the article, I was not happy with the previous title. As for galleries, I would like them to stay - they add useful pictures to the article.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:34, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

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Sure, feel free to expand them. I added them to illustrate romanesque and gothic buildings, but quite a few of those photos don't have a larger caption, and I am not a specialist in architecture - if not for caption (or the fact that they were used in pl wiki to illustrate articles on pl rom. and goth. architecture), I wouldn't tell the difference between romanesque or gothic :)--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:00, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Band templates
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Thanks for the note. So... many... templates. A couple of days ago there were, what, ten in that category? I've also started, which is much smaller and a bit more haphazard. Most of the templates in there are similarly-formatted footer templates, but a few are true oddities.

This is not to mention all the templates I passed up categorizing during my search, because I simply have no idea where in the hierarchy they fit in. (And the hierarchy seems spotty, as well. Wouldn't many of the footer templates in also fit into ?)

...We need solid guidelines for template categorization. And then we need to get people to do these thoroughly meta-tasks that most readers never see the outcome of. –Unint 03:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Standarization
Then I thought of something else. Given what I've seen during the sweep you're working on right now, how much standarization are you aiming for?

I ask this mainly because my view on these band templates is that they work best when used to point out non-standard aspects of a band. See The Beatles (the original band template?), with "Management" and "Production" and no discography at all. See The KLF, with "furthermore known as". See Nine Inch Nails, with the Halo index. Then there's non-standard implementation of the same features: some templates have "current members" and "past members" labelled, while others do not, for example. Most templates have current members in a top row and past members in a smaller, bottom row, but I had to go and fix Enigma due to its usage of the second row in a different context.

As for what I'm doing, I edited New Order just before you got to it, with the bars "side projects", "related articles", and "related people". Given the number of articles these comprise, as New Order's history seems to associate with a higher-than-average number of other noteworthy subjects, I think they really do need to be subdivided &mdash; maybe under one header bar, though.

Also, I'm currently developing a rather more non-standarized template at User:Unint/Template:Leeb-Fulber, which aims to summarize more than one band in a single box. Granted, this is very tentative, but I'd like to toss this into the mix as food for thought. –Unint 04:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


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 * The wording of "furthermore known as" in The KLF's template is a little nod and wink to those who already know the band, a tiny indulgence; it's how they refer to their alter-egos in a famous lyric. Anyway, the point is that The KLF had number one hit singles under two different names (KLF, Timelords), top 40 hits singles under 3 or 4 names (JAMs, possibly 2K), and substantial press coverage with about 5 (those mentioned plus the K Foundation)! The "also known as" section is, therefore, entirely justified. It gets a little tiresome when people continually find things to criticise! --kingboyk 07:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


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Commercial Links
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Thank you for taking time to discuss the proper place of commercial external links. Wikipedia does offer some guidelines which favor informative commercial links and others which penalize spammers seeking simply to piggy-back Wikipedia's ranking on internet search engines. Any other Wikipedia policy that bears upon the inclusion of commercial external links would be of interest to me. - Piapoco

Siege of the Alcázar
Your changes to the referencing in Siege of the Alcázar were broken. I've reverted them, but you might want to redo it so they aren't broken. Ted 14:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: TfD stuffs
 The edit history (and for some, the talk pages as well) of these templates contain valuable information. If the content of these templates is merged into some articles, as for the case of the country infoboxes, or the function of these templates has combined into another very similar template, edit history and talk pages are still useful. They should not be deleted and should remain accessible for editors. &mdash; Instantnood 18:19, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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French phonology and orthography
This article rocks. I was ecstatic when I stubbled upon it. Can we work together some more on the Quebec French article, esp. in terms of format for the linguistic features? I'm on the verge of creating a new article, but desparately want to work with others. Check out the outlines in my sandboxes. Btw, my wiki IPA code and formating skills leave much to be desired. À tantôt! CJ Withers 04:40, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


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Gospel Judas
Why would you take out a link to the text that is prominently cited and quoted in the article. Why not let readers look at the text themselves. 65.29.34.82 17:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)rossp

Delta Force template
Many thanks for putting together a Delta Force Series template - it was very helpful of you, and maybe next time I'll know how to do it myself. :) RandyWang 11:57, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


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Drosera anglica refs
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Thanks for fixing the citations on the Drosera anglica page. Where they disfunctional? I though that was a legit format. I've seen it used elsewhere... --NoahElhardt 00:57, 24 April 2006 (UTC)


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Archerfield
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I know and ordinarily I would have corrected the cat but I was a very tired article creating bunny and, as can be seen in my contribs, this unusually nationalist comment was the last thing I managed before crashing out...;) Hopefully we'll see this in DYK this week, nice one  Dei zio  20:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Template:N9jig-il-shield


Regarding the images that will be orphaned... I figured a bot would handle it after the template disappeared. I'll know which images to replace when the bot invalidates the images on the pages, which will then show up on my watchlist. About 90% of them are already substituted, though. &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 18:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


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 * All right, I found and replaced the four images, but there were also some more that were substituted that weren't on your list. I replaced those too. Thanks for your help! Should Category:Illinois traffic sign images be placed on cfd? &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 23:55, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


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tfd-kept
Actually, it's not deprecated, because it's not supposed (cannot be) replaced. The old format pages have to be referenced in full.

Every once in awhile, during research or for repeat TfD, I've been known to add it to talk pages to point to the old discussion. So, it's alive and kicking, and probably will be forever. There was a long discussion, and various folks didn't want it subst, either. So, given that knowledge, please revise the template description as appropriate.
 * --William Allen Simpson 21:48, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

cat removal
Hello! I would be interested to know where the vote of the deletion of the Category:Underground economy took place? Could you also inform me on how are we supposed to know votes are taking place, since I've seen no tags about it in the relevant articles? Thanks. Santa Sangre 04:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


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