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re:List of professional sportspeople convicted of crimes
I don't mind removing Bowyer that as long there is a criteria written as an article heading which is the biggest issue of this article. Higuita was according to sources until it was quashed later, which is the same case for Hurricane the boxer. Jay Pegg (talk) 14:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This source states: The charge of illegal profiting was dropped last week, but Higuita must stand trial for withholding information and this was published in May 23, 1994, his prison sentence was in 1993, as this source says. Jay Pegg (talk) 14:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well according to the article on here, he was released without having ever technically being charged. But I don't want to nit-pick, so I'll stop bugging you about it. Cheers!  Citi Cat   ♫ 14:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

For the Woodgate case, therefore I'm not sure what the US equivalent is but it is considered to be a prisonable offence (the same case for the singer Cheryl Cole, who would had a prison sentence had they not had the money for a decent lawyer).

Reading the talk bit, I am realising that as this list is getting complex, therefore I excluded any traffic offence such as speeding unless the person is imprisoned for it as in the UK, traffic violation is not considered to be a serious offence, they have to reach 12 points in their license or drive over 100mph on public road to receive a ban. I'm not sure if in the US, DUI is considered to be a criminal offence, but I know in the UK, a prison sentence can be imposed on it if a driver is caught whilst banned or kills or seriously maims a person whilst driving, which is the case for Naseem Hamed.

As I have already added my bit on the talk bit, I think Phil Taylor is worth including considering he has a criminal conviction, plus getting a community service (for Harding's case) is better than being labelled a pervert for several years by the court.

I personally, think, if we were to exclude those who did not go to prison, then I would suggest the title List of professional sportspeople who have been imprisoned for crimes, that will make the article less complex. Jay Pegg (talk) 10:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

John Paul, Sr.
I notice the article in the DYK next update, and I'm dropping you a note to say that I really enjoyed the article. I didn't know that he had legal troubles for the drug trafficking or that he had disappeared.  Royal broil  13:59, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

John Paul, Sr.

 * I made a change; I hope it's better now. Biruitorul Talk 22:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

re:Nick Hogan
This addition was the suggestion of a friend, but I do agree with you that that he didn't really make any money, he just lived on his father's money and whored himself for attention to get more cash. In short, he is simply a spoiled idiot with a famous father with the intellect of Paris Hilton, just my opinion.

This really raised the issue up as I feel that professional is become a vague term nowadays, this is as there are professional sport series that consists of sportspeople who have daily jobs to go to when they are not competing, a common case for motorsport and there are low end professional league consisting of paid sportspeople

Therefore would that really mean we will just include people who are just primarily notable as sportspeople, rather than notable people who compete in sports as hobbies (or have a failed career as sportspeople). Jay Pegg (talk) 23:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Trouble is, I'm not sure whether to delete this entry or keep it since he is more famous for other things than as a sportsman. Jay Pegg (talk) 21:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
My RfA  Thank you for your support in my recent RfA, which closed successfully. I felt the process was a thorough review of my contributions and my demeanor, and I was very gratified to see how many editors took the time to really see what I'm about and how I can be of help to the project. As a result, some editors changed their views during the discussion, and most expressed specific, detailed points to indicate their opinion (whether it was, , or ).

A number of editors were concerned about my level of experience. I was purposeful in not waiting until a particular benchmark occurred before requesting adminship, because I feel - as many do - that adminship is not a reward and that each case is individual. It is true that I am not the most experienced editor around here, but I appreciate that people dug into my contributions enough to reach the conclusion that I seem to have a clue. Also, the best thing about this particular concern is that experience is something an editor - or administrator - can always get more of, and I'll continue doing that, just as I've been doing. (If I seem a little slow at it, feel free to slap me.)

I am a strong believer in the concept that this project is all about the content, and I'm looking forward to contributing wherever I can. Please let me know if I can be of any help. In the meantime, I'm off to school...

Thanks again! Frank |  talk  14:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Tim Buckley
Hi there, I think i've clarified it now but do you think there's a better way of putting it? Thanks Sillyfolkboy (talk) 17:23, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I never got back to you on this. Here in the bottom section next to the photo is detail of his drug reduction etc - but maybe it should be more specific in the body of the article. Thanks! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 14:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

asaboo
Hey, This is regarding my "Dubai International Academic City" article. Its not an advertisement for sure as if you read it, I have mentioned my own experiences which includes the good as well as bad points ( the last topic named "the present situation"). Also, about being copied from the link you gave, i have already given a reference link at the bottom and there isnt more than 1 or 2 lines which are directly picked from there.

Or, how do you suggest to do any changes to it.

Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asaboo (talk • contribs) 16:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion nomination of List of professional sportspeople convicted of crimes
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I need some help
After days of research I improved the American Pit Bull Terrier article. Whenever I contribute to this article a user named "HelloAnnyong" revert it. He falsely claims that I used copyrighted material. It wasn't my source but he always revert my text. So I ask a moderator to review the text. Maybe it's not all so good which I wrote but there I posted some very well documented information with veritable source like from OFA, UKC and "Colby's Book of the American Pit Bull Terrier" by By Louis B. Colby,1997, ISBN-10: 079382091X. Just compare the two versions. Thank You very much.k84m97 (talk) 05:24, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

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RE: deletion article John Edward Tang (author)
Hello Citicat,

I'm a new Wiki user and I have a question for you: why was the page John Edward Tang (author) deleted and is there no trace of the contens of that article?

When you look up John Edward Tang on Wikipedia you won't find anything unless you select Everything. Only then I find this article: Articles for deletion/John Edward Tang (author). Carefully reading this article and following all the links, I found this article: Revision history of John Edward Tang (author). On this page there are only the "deletion and move log" available. I understand that John Edward Tang was judged to be either not a "notable author" or a hoax, but why was the original article not kept for reference?

Following the links link in Articles for deletion/John Edward Tang (author) and next this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests/Archive_35, I had a quick look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DRV page and I understand that I should talk to you first. This is all new to me, but do I have it right in assuming that you are the one who deleted the article?

So my question is: why was the original article not kept for reference, clearly indicating that the information contained in it is questionable, does not have verifiable references or whatever else is applicable? Is the original still available hidden somewhere on Wikipedia? Is there a possibility to restore the article, be it in a adapted way?

My main point is that anyone interested in finding some objective information about John Edward Tang, cannot rely on Wikipedia for that. Only a cursory "not a 'notable author' or a hoax" and even then this information is not easily accessible. Imo it would be better to leave the article available on Wikipedia with some clear warning as to verifiability/ intentions of the source, letting readers make up their own mind about the information. Not knowing the content of the article, I might be wrong about all this. Just seeking clarification. But with all due respect, isn't deleting this article plain censorship?

Btw, I'm not affiliated in any way to John Edward Tang or the author of the deleted article, just an interested student seeking information and striving for free dissemination of information on the digital highway.

--MauryFuen (talk) 11:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Victoria Scott D'Angelo for deletion
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MSU Interview
Dear Citicat,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

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DYK for Bob Cortner
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Thomas Dacres (disambiguation)
Hello. I created this page and it was deleted about two days later, but I didn't receive any notification, I just noticed from my watchlist that it had been deleted. Do you know who nominated it and why I didn't receive a message? I think a dab with 2 entries and a very similar see also should at least have a discussion before deletion, and certainly I should have been informed. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer, Boleyn (talk) 15:46, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I have responded at my page. Boleyn (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Camp Quest
 Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  05:44, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware it was controversial, still don't know why
 * I assume that you read this, currently on my talk page, and checked here before insinuating bias.
 * I would have been happy to userfy the page once asked. It would have been polite to give me the opportunity to do so before assuming bad faith
 * It would also have been polite to wait for a reply from me before implying that I had acted improperly on another editor's talk page

Well, you still haven't explained why it's a controversial article, rather than a possibly controversial deletion. I made a judgement in good faith; while I accept that I may not always get things right, I resent being accused of bias by another admin, rather than an aggrieved newbie, especially when that admin says "I fully admit to not having a neutral view on this" (pot and kettle, eh?). The article has been userfied and hopefully will come back a in better form. I'm obviously wasting my time here, since you are unlikely to accept anything I say. You have the power to restore the article; I won't accuse you of wheeling if you do so, I'll just walk away. You can also go to ANI, as I'm sure you know.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, let's start again. On the controversy, I hadn't thought of the US dimension, it wouldn't raise hackles here. Talking of which, I may have over-reacted to the perceived slur, I should AGF too, sorry.


 * I thought the article was generally promotional in tone. Just looking at the first headed section, to quote the mission statement is fair enough, but then we get The overall purpose... free of religious dogma... The camp is dedicated to... It promotes tolerance, empathy, self-respect, self-expression, critical and creative thinking, cooperation, and ethics... The camp intended goal is to offer a space where children who are already nonreligious can feel comfortable and accepted. &mdash; Much of the rest of the article is similarly pov opinion disguised as fact, I could give more examples, but you can look for yourself.


 * I should say that I'm sympathetic to the aims of the organisation. I'm not starting from a Christian fundamentalist position, I just think this is as one-sided as the Christian camp articles often are. My preference would be to see what the revised version comes back as, but if you really think this is a reasonably neutral article, I'll restore it, and then you can afd, leave it or whatever. Let me know. I'm sorry I got ratty with you  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:54, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Reversion of Open pop star
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List of professional sportspeople convicted of crimes (Voynov/Stoll removal)
I'm curious why both players were removed. Voynov was convicted and was even given jail time for his crime. Stoll did plea guilty to two lesser charges. Jasonstru (talk) 23:35, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:13, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement
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