User talk:Citizen Truth

CONFESSIONS OF A CABALIST


 * I am going to horribly violate WP:AGF but in the hope of explaining to you what happened. I was part of a clique that included Morton, Tbeatty, Mongo, Tom [Harrison] etc. we used to communicate off wiki for deletions, using the [Conspiracy Theory] noticeboard basically. I would get emails telling me how I should vote and what guidelines etc. Kinda whats on the noticeboard now. Anyway I recently exposed the truth since its really not against any guidelines to tell people how they should vote and what policies, as long as you do it off wiki or in your own user space, meaning not posting to each persons. I cited this as a flaw and exposed how it worked etc, the admin protection we had under an understanding kinda thing, we were doing MONGO's dirty work and all.

So Morton posts on my page basically saying he wont be my friend anymore, then removing me from his friends list all together on his own user page. Then in came the workers, I say workers because certain people play certain roles, like Morton removes sources from articles to prep them for WP:RS complains during the AfD, I pose as neutral to give the board a good image and play passive agressive, Tbeatty kinda does as Morton does. Arthur Rubin plays far neutral, not seeming like a member at all, Hipocrite does a lot of the agitating on talk pages and "snitching" and we all work together to preserve our versions. Tom reverts, the Morton, then Tbeatty, then Arthur, then Hipocrite etc.

Since the article is on the noticeboard we know what to watch. We know what limits to push, what talk infuriates people. Just keep callnig the opposing party "truthers" and "conspiracy theorists" and they will get annoyed, and usually say something stupid enough to be cited for WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF etc. The thing is Thatcher is the system works on 1 to 1 editing, 3RR stops revert wars when its 1 to 1, but when its 3-1, it just helps maintain a particular view. Its why Travb, FAAFA, Nescio, Seabhcan, Stone Put To Sky, etc ended up on the losing end or gone or de-sysop'd, they worked alone and didnt form up to make their own boards etc. Their own "teams". You can see usually from the AfD's, one person makes an arguement and everyone just rephrases it or says, "per morton", yet they appear to be a concensus because 7 editors on one AfD is higher then normal for such a little known topic, and they all vote the same ...

Anyway happy new year, I am gonig to log my trends offline most likely for voting habits of people on that noticeboard as well as admin actions by some etc. Feel free to remove or keep, I mean, what happens when the truth is that people operate in bad faith? --NuclearUmpf 19:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index....& oldid=98218591 FaAfA | Homepage | 07.28.07 - 7:51 pm | #

Citizen Truth 05:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

All from this place:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Morton_devonshire

I find it hard to believe I was banned.

bad link in previous comment
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thatcher131&diff=98240662&oldid=98218591

Citizen Truth 20:34, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

More of the same old
This is not to be taken as a personal attack a or vendetta.I'm merely keeping records of all of this.I personally feel many weak arguments,falsehoods and bias are getting in the way of rational thought. Personal opinion does not equal truth and people should stop insinuating their truth is fact. There are many inaccuracies in the Commission Report that people choose to ignore. "Audio" of some guy saying pull it? The guy was Larry Silverstein and he said it during a PBS interview in 2002.No retraction until four years later when he stated he meant "pull the firefighters".If that was the case he would or should have said 'pull THEM.The context of the interview leads one to believe he meant pull the building. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100 NO steel structure building has ever collapsed due to fire alone. Madrid fire:Burned for over 20 hours and did not collapse. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th2bnG_7UyY This is one example and many more can be found by searching. Most of us know that history books and encyclopedias have errors and over time these errors get corrected.Facts of the past do not constitute facts of today or tomorrow. -- Personnel issues

It looks like Seabhcan's utility as our man on the inside is at an end. We can probably let him continue to post for the sake of appearances. He may try working under another name for a while, but I don't know how long he will be able to get away with that. The next guy in the deck is an experienced poster there and here with enough credibility to get the job done. Nobody can replace Seabhcan, but this guy has his own talents, as I think you will see. You already know who it is, or you don't need to know. I hope everyone gives him a chance. Tom Harrison Talk 11:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Sigh... Does that mean I'm fired? But I worked so hard for you guys, and your evil overlords. ... Seabhcan 11:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I thought you were keen to move on. Just between us, you were always too rational and sane to operate there successfully in the long term. Anyway, you know we take care of our own. We'll make a place for you. Tom Harrison Talk 11:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I just got the new padding installed in that cell...he can move in there this week, soon as we get the waterboard installed.--MONGO 11:29, 30 July 2007 (UTC) Mongo, that's not what we agreed. I was promised a seat on the Halliburton board and remuneration in the form of the blood of innocents. ... Seabhcan 11:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Come on man...you must not have read the small print under Dick Cheney's signature...geez.--MONGO 11:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Damn it! I knew I shouldn't have done business with the Dark Lord. ... Seabhcan 12:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Isn't Rational and Sane the two other posters we've recrutied over there? --Tbeatty 15:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Citizen Truth 23:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Food for Thought
According to Reuters, “CIA and FBI computers have edited entries in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia on topics including the Iraq war and the Guantanamo prison, according to a new tracing program.” No doubt, as well, the FBI and CIA have made other changes to “the world’s most important online encyclopaedia,” editorial changes not as grandiose as expanding former CIA chief William Colby’s entry, dumping a chart on Iraq casualties, or removing satellite images of the concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. You can bet they edited scads of lesser entries as well.

“The changes may violate Wikipedia’s conflict-of-interest guidelines, a spokeswoman for the site said Thursday,” although Wikipedia, of course, will do nothing about it, as they are not in the business of posting factual information, instead often serving as a platform for character assassination and slander, an area familiar to both the FBI and CIA, often tasked with neutralizing or at least harassing dissidents and those who believe the First Amendment means what it says. “It violates Wikipedia’s neutrality guidelines for a person with close ties to an issue to contribute to an entry about it, said spokeswoman Sandy Ordonez of the Wikimedia Foundation, Wikipedia’s parent organization,” Reuters continues, feeding us a line of Wikipedia public relations nonsense. “However, she said, ‘Wikipedia is self-correcting,’ meaning that misleading entries can be quickly revised by another editor. She said Wikimedia welcomed the WikiScanner.”

So neutral is Wikipedia, the site insists I am an antisemite and Holocaust denier—two quite serious allegations in this day and age of highly polarized political correctness and corporate dominated political consensus—although they provide absolutely no evidence of this beyond a blog entry defending the free speech right of David Irving, convicted of not adhering to the official historical orthodoxy. Wikipedia allowed slanderous edits on my entry for months before “self-correction” kicked in.

“According to clues accumulated by ordinary citizens around the world, it could be that the CIA and other intelligence agencies are riding the information wave and planting disinformation on Wikipedia,” Ludwig De Braeckeleer wrote for OhmyNews last month. “If so, tens of thousands of innocent and unwitting citizens around the world are translating and propagating their lies, providing these agencies with a universal news network.”

Of course, this is nothing new, as the CIA has controlled the corporate and much of the so-called “alternative” media for decades, beginning with Operation Mockingbird in the late 40s. “Personally, I have come to the conclusion that the media is not only influenced by the CIA,” writes Mary Louise, “the media is the CIA. Many Americans think of their supposedly free press as a watchdog on government, mainly because the press itself shamelessly promotes that myth. One of the first tenets for the control of a population is to control all sources of information the population receives and mostly because of the pervasive CIA and Operation Mockingbird, the mainstream American Press is a controlled multi-national corporate/government megaphone.”

It would appear Wikipedia is not simply “populated by volunteer vandals with poison-pen intellects,” as John Seigenthaler Sr., former assistant to Attorney General Robert Kennedy, would have it, but is indeed an intelligence front, yet another puzzle piece of a sprawling, comprehensive, long-term, and quite effective propaganda effort. Citizen Truth 03:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)