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Talk:No Gun Ri Massacre
Hi, as you are probably familiar with content on that Talk page better than anyone, you'd be in a better position to make a call, but you may wish to be informed of the various cases at Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner‎. Just FYI. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:54, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * FYI, I have suggested that the two new Users be checked along with new sleeper. That is a technical check, only you can provide a WP:DUCK comment. In ictu oculi (talk) 23:59, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

You know, you don't have to be so intransigent about this. You can make a change with compromise language and we can discuss it. This isnt an all or nothing deal here. WeldNeck (talk) 15:42, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
Cjhanley, I'm dropping by to notify you that you are the subject of an ongoing sockpuppet investigation. You may wish to drop by and leave any comments. Please note that I did not file the request; I am only notifying you as I noticed you had not yet been notified. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 01:21, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have commented, are you still of the opinion that WeldNeck is not Kauffner? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The belligerence and the point of view (make the No Gun Ri Massacre go away) are similar, but there's a decided difference in their interests, judging from their User pages etc., and Kauffner, as I recall, was more literate than the hamhanded Weldneck. The problem, as essentially a neophyte at Wikipedia, is to know how to blow the whistle on Weldneck, now that he has stooped to outright fabrications -- by adding nonexistent words to documentary sources -- and to wholesale deletion of well-sourced facts that disturb his point of view. Any suggestions? Thanks. Charles J. Hanley 11:55, 15 October 2013 (UTC) Cjhanley (talk • contribs)
 * Well, you're 100% sure? But it seems a strange coincidence that one leaves and another comes. I'm afraid I'm not well read up enough on the article to be much use, despite my impression that you're the one using sources correctly. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:01, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Let me ponder that further and perhaps compare some texts from the two. Meanwhile, can you advise me on how one alerts administrators to a guy running roughshod over a solid article to suit his POV? Thanks again. Charles J. Hanley 12:12, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Be difficult without a 3rd editor to adjudicate. Your comment "there's a decided difference in their interests, judging from their User pages etc.," is perhaps because you're only dealing with part of a sockmaster, some of the other socks also have dedicated areas. The point of view (make the No Gun Ri Massacre go away) is pretty distinctive. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:17, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * See Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner In ictu oculi (talk) 15:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Noticeboard
I think this is the board you are looking for: WP:ANI. WeldNeck (talk) 19:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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I'm sorry, I can see that there is a significant problem on the article, and looks like some quite heavy POV being applied. I wonder if you could ask Mark to recommend a couple of other admins used to dealing with POV issues, or I would recommend FuturePerfect at Sunrise, BobRayner, Cuchullain and a couple of others I've seen handling well other POV cases, but they may have hands full. Otherwise I have posted here Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:37, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I would try all avenues possible until someone takes interest, it may mean knocking on a dozen doors, ..and yes I understand that "accidental" isn't really the word. As an afterthought I have noted at RS noticeboard also. Good luck. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:39, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Notification
Cjhanley, please use the notification system to ping me at ANI rather than e-mailing me. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Use the template U. So, instead of writing, "Bbb23, you are a wonderful person", you would write, ", you are a wonderful person" (without the quotes). By the way, you are not permitted to use the template unless you say I'm a wonderful person. :-) --Bbb23 (talk) 01:27, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * For the record, is a fine administrator. As a person, I don't know. I have yet to speak to their significant other. Drmies (talk) 18:49, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Did I ever say I had a significant other, ? Even assuming I do, they would only confirm that I'm indeed a wonderful person. In fact, they use that or a similar phrase no matter what the topic is, so if you asked them how they felt about bacon, they would respond, "Bacon is as wonderful as Bbb23."--Bbb23 (talk) 01:28, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I would choose you over bacon, Californian one. Not sure about Cjhanley: I have the feeling that he's not a perfect dinner guest--we'd never get past the toast. Note, Cjhanley, how I don't have to ping you, of course, and how I used a different way of pinging Bbb, one that allows me to pipe the link. Drmies (talk) 01:32, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

I'm interested in your struggle
Dear Mr. Hanley,

This is only to tell you that I have been following your struggle here in WP to make the WP page/article on the No Gun Ri massacre as objective, truthfull to the sources, and as free of any tendentious POV as possible. I admire your courage, and I don't envy the heavy burden and task you have ahead. This is why I have been trying to follow the developments as best as I can as the limited time I have for WP editing allows, which is not much. This is also not my first field of expertise or knowledge, even though the subject in general interests me a lot, as I said, and so my direct involvement in the editing tasks and in the overall WP shoving and pushing (wikilawyering) involved cannot be of great help in the difficult tasks ahead. I also really just try to stay out of political controversy in Wikipedia, and I am not a great believer in the systemic bureacracies that exist in Wikipedia to try and keep the boat from sinking. I mean, there obviously a great need for them to exist, because the forces trying to torpedo and sink the boat are indeed formidable. It is just that I cannot use my precious time to learn the intricate ropes of the legal game that goes on here on very controversial matters. So, if it is any help at all, this is just to let you know that I try to read all the developments with great interest, as my limited time here allows (and it is not a great deal of time to begin with...), and that I wish you strength, courage, and the best of luck in your struggle here. Sincerely, warshy¥¥ 19:55, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

War Diary
Can you post a link to the following: Eighth U.S. Army. July 23, 1950. Interrogation report. "North Korean methods of operation". Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2. WeldNeck (talk) 20:13, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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ANI
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I am going to have fun with the rest of my Memorial Day, but you enjoy yourself with this. WeldNeck (talk) 17:15, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Cjhanley/Attack on No Gun Ri Massacre
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WeldNeck seeks to ban me



 * WeldNeck is seeking to topic-ban me from the No Gun Ri Massacre article at...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Cjhanley

... and seems to have rounded up some like-minded people to endorse the idea. Some sensible comments there by others would surely help keep the No Gun Ri article from falling into a bottomless pit of lies and ignorance. One endorser writes, "The article will be just fine without him, just like any other article subject." Really? Thanks. Best, Charles J. Hanley 22:18, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
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This is probably useless, because it appears that a conversation is already ongoing. I didn't realize this until I had already posted. But I'm supposed to post this anyway, so here it is. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 21:27, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

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No Gun Ri
It looks like we're editing on different shifts so-to-speak, which is unfortunate, but just wanted to touch base. I know that it is easy to get frustrated when offline you are seen as a subject matter expert and you work with professionals who defer to your expertise. I'm no Pulitzer winner, but I've done a meager bit of writing in my own right. Wikipedia takes a bit of adjustment.

I think we can do a good thorough evaluation of this article; we're just going to have it a piece at a time. Just so we're clear, this the kind of thing that can help this be productive. You can "edit" this section of your talk page to see the syntax I use to separate everything and make it appear like it is a cut-out section of an article. This kind of thing ensures that we're focused on individual edits and keeps us from rabbit-trailing. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 06:13, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I propose that we change the following line:

Instead it should read:

We all know Smith was groundbreaking in the field of school bus stuffing. JSTOR and google.scholar show he's been cited over 300 times in each database. But Jayce and Widget's meta-analysis was much more comprehensive and compares Smith to a number of similar studies. Also, their research was notable enough to be the source for a piece in the New York Times. We should also specify that Smith is working with a 40 ft. bus. Stuffing short busses (20-25 ft.) is a completely different field. GolfballZRule 19:55, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

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Just give it a try. You never know. You might like it.
As suggested once before, it may be beneficial for your mental health if you and WeldNeck simply didn't talk to one another. I think it's safe to say that after two years, no one is doing any convincing between you two. It may be healthier to simply discuss improvement of the article with me and GAB. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 03:36, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: Request for a little help
Hello, Cjhanley. I hope I'm doing this properly, I don't really spend any time in the innards of Wikipedia. The blog that I believe User:WeldNeck is associated with (by whatever degree) is at http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/. I found said blog just doing some general online research, and found it so repulsive that I spent some additional time trying to learn more about the blog's authors (as posted on its page) and some of the sources it cites (e.g. the psychologist, Kevin MacDonald). Within a minute or two it led me directly to User:WeldNeck's CM page, which I found to be nearly identical to the text found at http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/. I cannot say for certain that it is WeldNeck's blog, but WeldNeck was obviously using it and endorsing it, and in one case even cited it as evidence (this citation I deliberately deleted, but you could easily find it in the CM page's history). Once I saw User:WeldNeck's well-established history of editing wars and complaining about the evidence that others were using, I wasted no time in removing the http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/ citation. I also found other talk pages within Wikipedia in which WeldNeck specifically complained about things like "white genocide" and "political correctness", which is exactly what the authors complain about at http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/. Oilyguy (talk) 18:02, 1 June 2015 (UTC)Oilyguy


 * I copied the text from the now defunct CM article because I was going to work on it before things IRL distracted me. I figured the deleted page would be a good place to start. And for the recod, where the fuck did I complain about "white genocide"? WeldNeck (talk) 20:00, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


 * @WeldNeck, "White genocide" is a term that you have associated with "cultural marxism" and the "far left." Perhaps you did not utter that exact phrase here in Wikipedia, but I do associate the following excerpt, taken from "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Cultural_Marxism#Cultural_Marxism_articles_on_foreign_language_Wikipedia" with you: "It is not amazing that an American political philosophy that criticizes Europe's drowning in Cultural Marxism and Europe's downfall and current has been status that are only a shadows of what they once were does not want to talk about it. Europe's downfall is illustrated as what happens when countries are greatly influenced by the far left (Cultural Marxists} and what America will become as the yoke of political correctness (Cultural Marxism) suppresses the people. 172.56.7.197 (talk) 23:00, 21 February 2015 (UTC)."  You seem to have a history of ghost-editing behind an IP address, so I banked on this being you.  But even if this wasn't you, it is your ilk.  It echoes the very sentiments -- i.e. not objective views -- of a right-wing agenda against this perceived "Cultural Marxism," and as is very clear and documented, it echoes the views expressed in the "destroyculturalmarxism" blog that YOU cited as fact (rather hypocritically) in your CM write-up.  Why don't you just copy/paste your paranoia into conservapedia, go preach to that choir, and drop this nonsense?  Otherwise, if you want to talk to me, go to my talk page as I don't want to populate Cjhanley's page unnecessarily.  Oilyguy (talk) 22:10, 1 June 2015 (UTC)Oilyguy


 * Please read WP:OUTING. As discussed on the ANI, "digging" for incriminating information on WeldNeck is not taken lightly. GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 18:55, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Understood, and I apologize for this aspect. My intention was only to edit WeldNeck's actual CM page, but then realized some of the history behind it.  I only raised this flag, or "outed" WeldNeck, because WeldNeck's CM page was practically identical to the aforementioned blog and because WeldNeck cited that blog as a valid reference.  It was solely out of suspicion concerning the hypocritical nature of that parity (between the blog and WeldNeck's CM page) and that citation, given WeldNeck's history of challenging other editors' sources.  So again, please understand that this wasn't meant to be an outing per se.  You can suspend or delete my account or do whatever you all need to do to maintain the sanctity of the wiki, I only created it in order to address this Cultural Marxism issue.  Oilyguy (talk) 05:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)Oilyguy


 * I'm not going to ban you, and that was never my intention. No worries. Just a word of advice: admins could conceivably see it as a personal attack. I would advise against it. GeneralizationsAreBad (talk) 17:04, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * What dont you understand ... Its not my blog and I'm not the IP. Now kindly end this line of questioning. WeldNeck (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't understand a lot of things. One thing I don't understand, for example, is why you challenge so many other editors' sources while you found it perfectly reasonable to cite (if not copy/paste) a blog titled "Destroy Cultural Marxism."  You clearly have no neutral stance on any of this, whether or not it's your blog.  I'm not outing *you* so much as your hypocrisy.  Oilyguy (talk) 05:09, 18 June 2015 (UTC)Oilyguy

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Just to be clear in case you are not following the discussion over at WP:ANI. There are some things you should be informed about.


 * WP:NPA: Even if you are right (and I'm not saying you are), making personal attacks makes you the bad guy. Especially if you are right, making personal attacks hurts WP because it means that what you are arguing for will be discounted by the community based on your conduct.
 * WP:OUTING: You and I are the exception. We use our real names as our online pseudonyms. In my case I've just accepted the fact that I'm probably on several government watch lists anyway. There's no way you submit an (obviously rejected) op ed to Salon entitled "Why ISIS is a good thing" and don't get watched by the NSA (I have no idea why I have a security clearance). In your case, you understandably want to be seen as a subject matter expert. But most people want to remain pseudo-anonymous online and attempts to break that anonymity are seen as treacherous.
 * WP:CANVASSING: Think of it as WP gerrymandering. If there is a dispute, the correct solution is to draw uninvolved editors to the page to weigh in. Trying to attract only editors who have agreed with you is kindof vote-rigging, and is frowned upon.

There are reasons why these are policies. These are all issues that have come up in the past. It's like the way lawsuits determine policy for government agencies. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 05:27, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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I've just enabled my Wikipedia email feature, after a bit of head-scratching. So if you are interested in exchanging sources this way (PDF format is ideal), this is likely the best method. The function is on the left side of the screen, under "Tools," where it says, "Email this user."

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 * Done, . Thank you. Charles J. Hanley (talk) 17:44, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

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RfArb
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Thanks,. It'll be live soon enough. A note for all other interested parties:, ,. WeldNeck (talk) 21:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, my apologies for not being on subject for a few weeks. Real life pressures interposed. Is this really necessary? It appears a straightforward content dispute, and I also lean towards non-inclusion. It is really not worth an arbcom. I shall comment on the relevant section on the NGR talkpage. Irondome (talk) 21:41, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that I ever suggested this. It is an extreme measure, and I believe that ANI or formal mediation is the right step. GABHello! 21:54, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * ,, The dispute's not the purpose Arbcom .. I actually think you guys have done a great job with the mediation and I thank you both for stepping into this thankless and grinding task. The arbcom is to deal with the abuse hurled at me with every interaction I have with Hanley. Its inexcusable that its gone on so long. He could have played ball with me a long time ago when I first proposed it but his "I'm the expert so its my way or the highway" approach really rubbed me the wrong way and he just dont get it.  WeldNeck (talk) 22:10, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Please, WeldNeck, anyone with the stomach to read back in the article and Talk history, beginning in August 2013, will see very clearly who hasn't "played ball." Scores of edits and reverts without a nod of respect to others or a word of discussion: It's a shame for WP's future that it allows this kind of behavior to go unchecked, similar to your behavior at more than 20 other articles. Charles J. Hanley (talk) 22:37, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * You might want to comment on the page. Just a heads-up. GABHello! 22:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Please trim your statement at arbitration case requests
Hi, Cjhanley. I'm an arbitration clerk, which means I help manage and administer the arbitration process (on behalf of the committee). Thank you for making a statement in an arbitration request at Arbitration/Requests/Case&. However, we ask all participants and commentators to limit the size of their initial statements to 500 words. Your statement significantly exceeds this limit. Please reduce the length of your statement when you are next online. If the case is accepted, you will have the opportunity to present more evidence; and concise, factual statements are much more likely to be understood and to influence the decisions of the Arbitrators.

For the Arbitration Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply ) 19:34, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * For your information (to gauge how much to change), your word count is 1086 or 1093, using separate tools. I would also like to note that I covered this almost 48 hours ago in clerk notes, which you were pinged to. L235 (t / c / ping in reply ) 19:34, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. Thanks,. Charles J. Hanley (talk) 20:45, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much - it's much appreciated. L235 (t / c /  ping in reply ) 20:47, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Answer

 * I don't understand why admins, when confronted with anecdotal evidence like this, don't look deeper themselves

Most admins lack critical thinking skills and are chosen as admins because they excel in promoting groupthink and conformism to Wikipedia culture. They don't look deeper into things because they generally lack the ability to care, empathize, and identify the problem. Instead, they blindly follow well-traveled paths of least resistance, walking in the footsteps of others before them instead of asking the right questions and pursuing the right answers. In short, it's a bureaucracy par excellence, run to the tune of a military hierarchy where information is tightly controlled and presented for mass consumption. Viriditas (talk) 00:17, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Request for arbitration removed
The Cjhanley and No Gun Ri Article arbitration case request has been declined and removed. For the Arbitration Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply ) 01:25, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Anthony Horowitz
Anthony Horowitz wrote about No Gun Ri? Wow! I'd better pick that up. I quite like his books. GABHello! 22:07, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

NGR Massacre status
and, I appreciated your approach to NGR Massacre from the beginning -- slow and steady and keeping a critical mass of contributors on board, to build some consensus and durability into the final product. But our collocutors seem to be drifting away. If you can find a way to draw them back, the article would benefit in the long run. Meanwhile, I'll just have to move ahead fixing the mess and updating as needed, and hope you continue to comment. Thanks. Charles J. Hanley (talk) 15:41, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately this is a core issue with how WP works, and the fact that there is no WP:DEADLINE. It is inherent in the system. Active users often have multiple projects going on at any given time in addition to real-life work and real-life life. Many are aware that the article is undergoing a renovation, and I'm sure they will return from time to time to see how things are progressing. In the meantime, I don't see why we cannot continue, and reach out for fourth and fifth opinions if anything particularly contentious arises. Timothyjosephwood (talk) 19:30, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi,

I noticed that you used this link to back up a sentence in the NGR article that the AP rebutted Bateman's assertions. As the article in question does not mention Bateman (and was published before his book came out), I'd appreciate if you could perhaps clarify this statement in the article, since it might confuse the reader.

Best,

GABHello! 22:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, . It does get a little convoluted. Bateman was the chief source for the Galloway article in USN&WR (the WP article says he "collaborated" on it). Bateman reports the same in his book. (He also said the same long ago in the NGR Massacre Talk page: "I was Joe Galloway's source for his original articles. ... Long story short: Joe is one of my best friends, and indeed, we were housemates here in DC just two years after my book came out.") The central elements of the Bateman book are the same as those of the earlier magazine article, and the WP article therefore says book "repeated" the criticisms. Hence, "The Bateman attacks were rebuffed" by the lengthy AP article. We could cite the Bateman book for the WP statement that he collaborated on the magazine article. And-or, simply say, "The attacks were rebuffed" by the AP, dropping "Bateman." What think? Good point. Thanks. Charles J. Hanley (talk) 23:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Sure, I guess we could just leave it "the attacks were rebutted by the AP," although we might need to clarify the link. GABHello! 23:12, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you - I enjoyed reading it through a few times over the past few days, and look forward to delving into the sources next week.--Concertmusic (talk) 19:20, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

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 * Thank you, . I did read WP guidance on this matter, and noted the "autobiographical" nature of the article in its Talk page. The reviewing editor did a good job of policing any seeming bias, and, if I may say so, I think I did a good job of straightforward exposition to begin with, after 40 years of writing news. Thanks again. Charles J. Hanley (talk)
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