User talk:Ck2go

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Proposed deletion of Christian kazamias


The article Christian kazamias has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

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February 2013
Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I've noticed that you have been adding your signature to some of your edits to articles, such as the edit you made to Christian kazamias. This is a common mistake to make and has probably already been corrected. Please do not sign your edits to article content, as the article's edit history serves the function of attributing contributions, so you only need to use your signature to make discussions more readable, such as on article talk pages or project pages such as the Village Pump. If you would like further information about distinguishing types of pages, please see What is an article?. Again, thank you for contributing, and enjoy your Wikipedia experience! Thank you. Aaron Booth (talk) 03:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Ck2go. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Smartphone, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Your username seems to suggest an affiliation with a company that you mentioned prominently in your revisions. --hydrox (talk) 18:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

October 2013
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Smartphone, you may be blocked from editing. ''I see that you have already been warned – more than once – for similar incidents. I suggest that you raise this on the article talk page and try to reach consensus on whether or not your edit is encyclopedic. Simply restoring the same, or similar stuff, without solving the fundamental problem, may result in your account being blocked and/or the article page being protected.'' Technopat (talk) 17:31, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

My name is Christian Kazamias, I am new to Wikipedia authoring and am trying to edit FACTUAL CLAIMS in Wikipedia on the evolution of the Smartphone and our contribution in building the world's first GPS Smart-phone.

I edited this text and added links to references as I was advised I did not do in Feb 2013 and received a threatening note that I am engaging in "Disruptive editing" by someone called Technopat.

Can some one PLEASE advise IN DETAIL EXAMPLE how to submit our claims to be reviewed for updating?

I assure you I have NO TIME to "vandalize Wikipedia" in Smartphone as the writer above stated.

If the objective is to keep an accurate record of facts then I do believe Wikipedia staff (whether paid or volunteers) should maintain a RESPECTFUL ETIQUETTE at all times. I state this as the message I received seemed a little too offensive making me question whether to update this falsely and biased article on the evolution of the smart-phone.

At a time where researchers acknowledge cc2GO Wireless Technologies Pty Ltd - a company I led to build the world's first GPS Smart-phone on the Palm powered platform BEFORE Palm, BEFORE Apple, BEFORE Symbian was born, I expect a little more respect and guidance to correct facts.

I have attempted to add links at bottom of each paragraph and hope to receive feedback from a genuine support person who's goal is to assist in updating Wikipedia with factual information.

At this time I am questioning whether the objective of Wikipedia is to provide an electronic encyclopedia of references or a boys club, as the information on the article I have tried to edit TWICE seems to be blocked with no real guidance to assist me to submit information request.

Please consider my feedback AS FEEDBACK and NOT personal attacks and consider how you as support volunteers would react if you receive message I did as a novice unaware how Wikipedia system works.

I await your earliest feedback,

Regards

Christian Kazamias Founder, cc2GO Wireless Technologies
 * . As the editor referred to above, I shall reply, pending feedback from another, uninvolved, editor, i.e., "a genuine support person who's goal is to assist in updating Wikipedia with factual information", on this. First of all, answering your questions in reverse order, at least two other editors had left you plenty of advice which, assuming you had taken the time to read it, you would have found useful "as a novice unaware how Wikipedia system works", and which rather invalidates your claim of "no real guidance to assist me to submit information request".


 * Which brings me to the warning I left you. When reverting your edits here, I left the following edit summary: "Reverted good faith edits by Ck2go (talk): Test edit/possibly promotional", which sums up perfectly the two basic problems with your edits. At that time, I was still unaware of the notices you had received previously regarding possible conflicts of interest (I won't bother to add the links for further information on this issue because they're available for you to read above) and other issues.


 * On seeing the notices above, I returned to study your edit more closely and discovered, much to my dismay, that you had basically repeated the same content, admittedly providing references (remember my edit summary referring to test edits?) this time round, but without having addressed the far more serious issue regarding conflict of interest.


 * Checking your history of edits to see if you had been in contact with either of the two editors who had left you the notices above, possibly with a view to asking them for advice on how to sort this thing out (negative), I was forced to conclude that you had no interest beyond that of pushing "your" version and/or promoting your product/company/whatever, and therefore posted a warning for disruptive editing to see if that would draw a response from you. Regarding the template that you consider "a little too offensive", I can assure you that I could have applied higher levels of warnings which are even more categorical in tone, but I refrained from doing so precisely for the reason set out below.


 * As for your "Can some one PLEASE advise IN DETAIL EXAMPLE how to submit our claims to be reviewed for updating?", surely my "I suggest that you raise this on the article talk page and try to reach consensus on whether or not your edit is encyclopedic." answers this adequately? Both in tone (not too offensive) and in terms of constructiveness. Hope that answers your concerns. Regards, --Technopat (talk) 00:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your response.

Again I am trying to understand your comments of "Self promotion".

In your comments you advised: I left the following edit summary: "Reverted good faith edits by Ck2go (talk): Test edit/possibly promotional", which sums up perfectly the two basic problems with your edits.

On seeing the notices above, I returned to study your edit more closely and discovered, much to my dismay, that you had basically repeated the same content, admittedly providing references (remember my edit summary referring to test edits?) this time round, but without having addressed the far more serious issue regarding conflict of interest.

PLEASE ADVISE WHERE the "Conflict of interest is?

I supplied links to show in each paragraph I added :

1) PROOF the world's FIRST GPS ENABLED Palm Powered Smart-phone was marketed by EGEO GmbH that then was incorporated as EGEO AG in Germany.

2) Proof cc2GO Wireless Technologies Pty Ltd is a trading company with references OUTSIDE our own website reference acknowledging our achievements

3) PROOF I am an inventor and links to my Provisional Patents that reference MY INVENTIONS in Patents Prior Art by Research in Motion (Blackberry) and Nokia and these can be cross referenced with the original EGEO Fusion G3 device that I was trying to add into the Smart-phone document as a matter of fact not self interest or promotion.

So I ask AGAIN WHERE is the conflict of Interest??? How is this Self promotion if it is factual?

IF FACTS are a conflict of interest and leaving facts that cc2GO Wireless Technologies and EGEO BUILT the World's FIRST GPS ENABLED Smart-phone are "Conflicts of Interest", I ask you please advise how?

A recent (March 2013)article by University of California referenced as the article did, quoting IBM showing SIMON - a concept yes a CONCEPT ONLY Smart-phone then your Wikipedia reference jumps to Nokia "Brick" phone and Qualcomm Palm OS CDMA Smartphone. The document I was editing then jumps straight to HTC missing a whole era between 2000 - 2003 when Palm brought out the Visor Phone plug-in, the Treo 180, Treo 300, Plam V sleds (that we ported our software to also) and so many more products emerged after our offering of the EGEO Fusion G3 including the HTC built devices such as the famous O2 XDA and iMate series and Compaq iPaq series.

I do not believe we have ANY Conflict of Interest here, but as you have pointed out we are not clear how to edit the content to format as needed.

I will ask my technicians to review formatting requirements as I do not feel confident I can follow the links to edit as you state.

In respect to your comment "I tagged my entries", I created a login and while logged in I pressed save, I did NOT tag anything. I assume I can't be logged in and should create a company link to edit these? Is that right? If not, how do we avoid tagging?

If you are still not convinced we are setting the record straight and require proof, I am happy to send you the original manual and a reference document from University of California whom acknowledged us as releasing the world's first commercially available GPS enabled Smart-phone on the Palm OS platform.

I await your feedback on how you require wording to avoid your claimed "Conflict of Interest" and "possible self promotion".

I thank you in advance

Christian Kazamias cc2GO Wireless Technologies