User talk:Clair de Lune

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Lizzy Bardsley
Thanks for notice, I put the VfD down. The world is really getting strange. Pavel Vozenilek 00:24, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Explanation Please
I'd like an explanation as to your snide comments regarding the definitions discusses on the 'whites' page. I get the impression that you are some kind of leftist white-hating person. It is individuals such as yourself that wish to tear down freedom of speech, because it is not in line with your 'noble' anti-racist ideals. But almost every white-hating person is guilty of the very thing they endlessly scream at white people about: racism. You hate white people, you don't want them to have freedom of speech, and you don't want them to be able to associate as a group. But yet you tolerate racism and hatred spewed forth by all peoples of color. So, what do you have to say in response to this? User: Antonucc

Whites
I misread part of your edit to Whites, which made it appear like vandalism. On more careful reflection I see that it was not. I apologize for reverting your edit so hastily. Cheers, -Willmcw 00:26, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Tony Mundine
My mistake entirely. I wouldn't say I'm young, being an early 70's child, but I didn't realise he had a father in the same profession, and notable as well. Wikipedia teaches me something every day. Thanks for your comment. I've reverted my changes. -- Longhair | Talk 02:58, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Do Not Remove Ethnic Groups
Do not remove any ethnic groups from the list. Those additions I made were ethnic groups, you might not be familiar with them because some are regional terms, but they are not the only regional ethnic groups on the list and if you want to remove all regional ethnic groups, you should remove them all and not just the ones associated to the Irish. 64.109.248.118 02:50, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Do Not Remove Ethnic Groups
They are ethnic groups and do not remove them. They are known ethnic groups, just because you aren't familiar with them, don't remove them. I'm not removing every ethnic group on the list I'm not familiar with. 64.109.248.118 03:00, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

B.I.C. or Bronx Irish Catholic is the term used to refer to the Irish-American Catholics that are from the Bronx, it is a well used term.

South Side Irish is the term for the Irish-Americans that live on the South Side of Chicago. Every year there is a large South Side Irish parade.

I'm sorry you aren't familiar with these groups, they aren't just being made up by me. I ask that you not remove a group just because you aren't familiar with them. 64.109.248.118 03:04, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

South Side Irish and B.I.C. are distinct groups, you don't know that though. They are both legit ethnic groups. They are not just like Irish people in any city, because they have their own term and there own unique culture. 64.109.248.118 03:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

South Side Irish are different from other types of Irish. 64.109.248.118 03:13, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

They have there own unique culture. They are an ethnic group because it is just a well established term and society. 64.109.248.118 03:20, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

How is a Mexican person in Texas any different from a Mexican person in Arizona? You don't seem to have a problem with that. 64.109.248.118 03:20, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Irish and Italian
In America, Irish and Italians frequently inter-marry, and many people are descended of both Irish and Italian heritage, and these people are known as being from Irish-Italian familes and being Irish-Italian. 64.109.248.118 03:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Good Reason
I have given good reason but you ignore it, you still don't understand that these groups are different from the standard Irish-American. You are ignorant of the cultures and should not remove them just because you think they are only apart of another culture. South Side Irish, B.I.C. aren't terms I just made up, they have been around for a long time, and they have established their own culture with their own traditions and yes, even their own clothes. 64.109.248.118 03:29, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Also, shouldn't all Mexican ethnic groups be removed from the list? Seeing as how they are just Native American and European mix? 64.109.248.118 03:29, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Own Culture
You say you keep Irish Travellers because they have their own culture, but what I have been telling you is that B.I.C. and S.S.I. have their own unique culture. 64.109.248.118 03:31, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Double Standard
It's a double standard, you have to know that, and unless you remove all ethnic groups that can be put under one larger category, you should not target a specific group. 64.109.248.118 03:36, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Reverting
I would not have to revert if people were not removing ethnic groups. 64.109.248.118 03:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Why is Chicano on the list and then Tejano too, why are Mexicans in Texas different from Mexicans in the United States? Why is that acceptable? 64.109.248.118 03:41, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Native Americans
Maybe you should remove all Native Americans on the list and just put them on once. A Native American from the southwest and a Native American from the northeast is no different than an Irish-American from Chicago or an Irish-American from the Bronx. 64.109.248.118 03:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Talk Sense into your Friends
Everytime they revert they remove unquestioned ethnic groups along with the questionable. 64.109.248.118 03:54, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I think if anyone should be banned for reverting it is Markalexander because when he reverts he takes away a part of the page that does not need to be taken off. 64.109.248.118 03:54, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Tribes
If Native-American tribes are acceptable, just think of the SSI and BIC as Irish-American tribes. 64.109.248.118 03:58, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Your request
Hi, regarding your request on my talk page about 3RR, if I look at the page history and find you've also violated 3RR, I have to block you too. We're not allowed to favor one side over the other, except in cases of vandalism or clear disruption, so you might want to rethink your request. ;-) SlimVirgin (talk) 04:08, August 23, 2005 (UTC)


 * He's been warned by Func so that should do it. Let Func or me know if he reverts again. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:18, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

reverts
Please don't revert Spanish language before 00.51 UTC August 5th as to do so would involve violating the 3RR rule. We need to work out a compromise on the talk page which you accuse me of not doing but are not doing yourself. I am willing to include the United States, which is more than you are with Belize, but only flagging it as not being the same as Latin American countries. It is nothing abouit anti Spanish in the States but it clearly is a different situation there, and as an encyclopedia we are duty bound to reflect that, SqueakBox 04:22, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

My point, in response to your message which I have now read, is that it is not the same in the US. That is where we disagree. can you source your claim. Is Spanish an official language in the US? In how many places is it used as the first language, or equal with English, in the schools? in the legal system: etc. As an English person I need to and feel duty bound to learn Spanish here. Many Hispanics feel the same when they are in the States, and wanyt to integrate. If their kids are taught in English in the schools they will end up thinking in English. And this is what happens, as I know from friends who went there from here and switched to English. now they are back here they switch back, SqueakBox 04:28, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Don't accuse me of bad faith if I don't do what you want. How can you accuse me of not having a case? SqueakBox 04:45, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

I have responded to you point by point at Talk:Spanish language, SqueakBox 04:57, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Tejanos
I need you to tell me what the difference in culture between Tejanos and Chicanos are. 66.73.198.159 22:46, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: Intrapreneur
Please provide a specific URL with the copied text when reporting things on WP:CP. Otherwise it is really hard for the volunteer(i.e. me, in this case) to deal with the item. This in in regards to:
 * Intrapreneur is a straight lift from an About article.Clair de Lune 03:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm just leaving it for now, but please do add a URL for the About article. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:42, 5 September 2005 (UTC)