User talk:Claire.dutton

November 2018
Hello Claire.dutton. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, such as the edit you made to Entanet, and that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to Black hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Claire.dutton. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message. Lyndaship (talk) 11:04, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

January 2019
Hello Lyndaship - I simply work for Entanet and have only tried updating it with more up-to-date information. I am not undertaking black hat SEO, otherwise I would be stuffing the article with links to our website. Please can you stop reverting my updates. Thank you Claire Dutton

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Claire.dutton. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Entanet, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. ''Please read the attached guidance. Specifically you should make any proposals on the talk page of entanet.'' Lyndaship (talk) 12:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Reply to a conflict of interest
Hello Lyndaship. Thank you for your explanation. However you have taken the decision to remove all of the awards and history on the Entanet page even though I didn't originally add them, I simply added updates for 2018. You have now made the page look bare. The only other change I have tried to update is the number of employees we have and our latest revenue figures - information that is not readily available to those outside the company as we are a private company. The changes I am making do not benefit the company in any way except to make the information available to the reader who may find it useful. ~ Claire Dutton

Please sign your posts using four of these little squiggles ~ Lyndaship (talk) 13:03, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Articles on wikipedia should be written so as to be of interest to the general reader. A long list of products and industry awards by year is of no interest to them whatsoever, a major innovation or award would be notable but all of those listed seem routine products which any company in your field would be likely to provide and the awards are industry awards of the type where every company who attends gets one. Furthermore the sourcing of many entries does not meet the WP:RS criteria and there is considerable evidence of prior likely COI/PAID editors adding them. I see you have amended the T/O and employee totals with an explanation of we are a private company and these figures are not available elsewhere - all facts on wikipedia have to satisfy WP:V and if they are not published in such a source they plainly cannot be verified and should not appear. The more I look at this article the more I feel the company fails WP:NORG and should be deleted Lyndaship (talk) 13:32, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Lyndaship - may I ask what your responsibility is in terms of Wikipedia and why you are enforcing such strict rules on updating this article on Wikipedia? I have worked at Entanet for 8 years and have updated this page on a handful of occasions, with little trouble as long as I stuck to facts that didn't overly promote the company in a PR capacity. Nobody else is going to take the time to update this article, why would they as it's a company article. Your preference seems to be to stick to out of date information rather than let someone who knows what they're talking about for the topic make updates.

There has been an Entanet Wikipedia page for way over 10 years, why is it irrelevant now? Also, our competitors have Wikipedia articles allowed, are you going to delete them too as they are very similar to ours? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_Group, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Wholesale_and_Ventures, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Media_Business ~ Claire Dutton

Please comply with the rules given at WP:COI should you wish to edit the article further Lyndaship (talk) 15:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)