User talk:Clark Kimberling

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Links to your work
Hi. I removed many of the links and references to your work you put in articles (I left some of them though). While I think you mean well, to an external observer your edits look like self-promotion, and that is discouraged on Wikipedia, see Self-promotion. I would suggest you stop doing that.

While obviously you know many things about elementary geometry, etc., I would suggest that if you want to add references you cite more primary sources. I do not mean to say that your own work is less relevant, but citing your own work introduces an appearance of bias. If somebody else thinks your work is really good, they will refer to it anyway.

You can reply here, under this comment. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I replied on my talk page. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I replied again. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Oleg - thanks for the help. I reinstated some New Harmony external links - I hope not too many, but if you need to delete one, please choose "Richard Owen". I also added some references. As you know, New Harmony is a very famous town, and there are hundreds of good references; I think the ones I added are among the very best. (Some of the references already there aren't very good and are hard to find.)

Can the the name of the Wiki page, "Euler's line", be changed to "Euler line?" Here are some reasons:

The classic books by Altshiller-Court, Johnson, Casey, and Coxeter all use "Euler line", not "Euler's line." The same is true for MathWorld. Google gets 25,900 hits for "Euler line" and only 941 for "Euler's line." At the Wikipedia page for Schiffler point, the reference is to "the Euler lines" rather than "the Euler's lines." (Note that Wiki has "Schiffler point" not "Schiffler's point".Clark Kimberling 15:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Another reason: there are many more Google hits to "the euler line" than to "euler's line", even with the extra word in the exact phrase search. I went ahead and moved it. —David Eppstein 19:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

hymn tune
Why not merge the above article with Hymn, as they are about the same subject? You can redirect your article title to 'Hymn' once you have had the pages merged. (aeropagitica) 23:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Why the did you put " marks round the title? -- RHaworth 08:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Style notes
Hi, it's me again. I have a few suggestions. One is that one should use an edit summary when one contributes, and second, that variables should be made italic in math notation. So instead of


 * AB

one should use either


 * AB (generates italic text)

or


 * $$AB$$ (generates math italic).

Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I replied about primes on my talk page. Note that when you write a post you need to use four tildas at the end (like this: ~ ) to get a signature. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

More style notes
Hi Clark. A few more notes (sorry if this bother you, I thought you'd learn these things anyway, and the earlier the better).

The formula

ap(p + q cos C)(p + r cos B) : bq(q + r cos A)(q + p cos C) : cr(r + p cos B)(r + q cos A).

should have only the variables in italic, and not the parentheses, the plus sign, or the "cos" thing, so it should be written

ap(p + q cos C)(p + r cos B) : bq(q + r cos A)(q + p cos C) : cr(r + p cos B)(r + q cos A)

Source code:

ap(p + q cos C)(p + r cos B) : bq(q + r cos A)(q + p cos C) : cr(r + p cos B)(r + q cos A).

Also note that it should be indented, move a bit to the right, using the colon, too look like this:


 * ap(p + q cos C)(p + r cos B) : bq(q + r cos A)(q + p cos C) : cr(r + p cos B)(r + q cos A).

Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, if we're to talk about style issues, it seems odd to write
 * $$c(3/2)\,$$$n\,$
 * instead of
 * $$c(3/2)^n\,$$
 * (Click on "edit" in this section and you'll see what I mean: TeX is used for c(3/2) and for n SEPARATELY, but undefined is used to put one of the TeX displays in superscript. In the second example, the carat ^ WITHIN TeX creates the superscript.  I found this in Kolakoski sequence.  I changed the whole thing to non-TeX notation because it was inline rather than "displayed".)  Michael Hardy (talk) 16:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * $$c(3/2)^n\,$$
 * (Click on "edit" in this section and you'll see what I mean: TeX is used for c(3/2) and for n SEPARATELY, but undefined is used to put one of the TeX displays in superscript. In the second example, the carat ^ WITHIN TeX creates the superscript.  I found this in Kolakoski sequence.  I changed the whole thing to non-TeX notation because it was inline rather than "displayed".)  Michael Hardy (talk) 16:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (Click on "edit" in this section and you'll see what I mean: TeX is used for c(3/2) and for n SEPARATELY, but undefined is used to put one of the TeX displays in superscript. In the second example, the carat ^ WITHIN TeX creates the superscript.  I found this in Kolakoski sequence.  I changed the whole thing to non-TeX notation because it was inline rather than "displayed".)  Michael Hardy (talk) 16:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * (Click on "edit" in this section and you'll see what I mean: TeX is used for c(3/2) and for n SEPARATELY, but undefined is used to put one of the TeX displays in superscript. In the second example, the carat ^ WITHIN TeX creates the superscript.  I found this in Kolakoski sequence.  I changed the whole thing to non-TeX notation because it was inline rather than "displayed".)  Michael Hardy (talk) 16:35, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Henry Hart (musician)
Hi, Clark. I just wanted to compliment you on the thorough job you did on the Henry Hart article, Seems to be a fascinating person. I changed the title to "Henry Hart (musician)" to conform to Wikipedia naming conventions; the old title simply redirects there, so you're covered both ways. This enabled me to create a disambiguation page, to differentiate him from the other Henry Hart that had an article already (some poet and professor from Virginia). I also "Wikified" links in your article wherever possible.

As someone who spends a lot of time on new-page patrol, "swatting the flies" of countless nonsense, vanity and spam pages, it's so nice to see a real, honest-to-goodness top-notch article right out of the box. Thanks again. Realkyhick 16:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

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Emmy Noether
Prof. Kimberling: I'm currently in the process of reconstructing the Wikipedia article about Emmy Noether, with the goal of eventually bringing it to Featured Article status. As of course you know, abundant information about her life is hard to find, so when I saw that you have a Wikipedia account, I wanted to thank you for your excellent piece in Emmy Noether: A Tribute to Her Life and Work. It's proven invaluable for the project.

I also wonder if you'd be interested in helping me (and some other editors) complete the section about her mathematical theories. Although I've written a number of FA-class biographies, I know nothing about math. (I'm an English teacher, typically the bane of math experts.) The section in question won't be ready to review for another week or two, but I thought I'd see if you're interested.

Thanks again for your superb work on Ms. Noether, and I hope to hear from you soon. – Scartol  •  Tok  17:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * PS. My reconstruction of the Noether article is located on my drawing board; feel free to have a look if you like. (Comments and suggestions are of course welcome.) – Scartol  •  Tok  17:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Threat of Speedy Deletion
Dear Clark:

I have your name from the Hymn Tunes article. Please look at my new article: Hymns and Hymn Tunes - Marriages ...  I posted it this morning, and I see now a threat of speedy deletion because it sounds like it was cut and pasted from somewhere. It was: I cut and pasted it from my word processor. I did all the research in the last couple of months, wrote and edited my data, and then posted it this morning. It is well documented.

Please see what you think of it, and confirm that it doesn't deserve to be deleted.... Hymnlover (talk) 18:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)hymnlover 5-13-10

Ceva and Saragossa
Hi, I noticed you added a historical comment to Ceva's theorem on 6 February 2007 concerning the king of Saragossa. What is your source for this? Tkuvho (talk) 10:48, 19 October 2010 (UTC) For the source, see the 2nd item in References. (CK, 29 October 2010

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