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Speedy deletion nomination of Agnelle Bundervoët


A tag has been placed on Agnelle Bundervoët requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Agnelle Bundervoët
Why did you remove the name of Maurice Braun in this edit? I returned it because: 1) I can see no reason not to have it, 2) it was in the source, and 3) I saw some places where she had taken it as her surname (married?). 1 and 2 are enough, though.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


 * In addition, I returned the original source: the new source you added isn't the best source (personal/sales) and doesn't contain all the info.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:46, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi I had accidentally removed it as I was moving and adding citations.


 * Oh, ok. Please see WP:RS regarding reliable sources. Can you find books, magazines, newspapers, or something with some form of editorial control? Also, what's really not good is User-generated content.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:49, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

I own the disc http://tahra.com/liste_product.php?attr=1&vattr=1&lang=en She has her entire bibliography in the inside cover, I am not finding an online version of it though –Classicalrecords.


 * Gotcha. That's not really a reliable source, though. Do you have access to French newspapers, by chance? I think that is likely going to be the best source of content about her.


 * I found one source for her date of death that's not the best, but doesn't seem to be a user generated page. That's a last resort kind of approach. Some good articles would really help. I'm working, for instance, on Lazare Lévy, for instance right now.–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * This is the source of date of death, which looks to be a database of info from obituaries: here.–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:06, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry to keep hitting your page, but I think I found the original source and there's info there that can be used to create a source: Le Figaro magazine, there's a date, page, and some info.–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:10, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Ah thank you yes that is perfect! (talk)


 * Ok, cool. I updated the citation info - it's a magazine and there's more citation info (title, date, page). I added citation needed tags for the portions of some content attributed to the source that wasn't there.


 * By the way, do you want to use English dates (used in the citations) or European formatted dates (used in the article)? It would be nice, probably to use European... but better to be consistent.–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:31, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I removed the genealogical info - it's user generated content.


 * www.virtuosochannel.com - looks to be based at least on part on user generated content, but there is editorial control before it's published, per http://www.virtuosochannel.com/p/about-us.html -- so I left that.


 * The info about the first husband doesn't tie him to her -- nor say he's an inventor -- so I added a failed verification tag for that info.–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I hope it wasn't too much info at once... I went ahead and tidied up the article, moved uncited content to the talk page, and gave a google books query to sources in snippet mode -- meaning it would require library research to get the content, to the talk page. If you have any questions, please let me know.–CaroleHenson (talk) 05:34, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help. Regarding him being an inventor, a list of his patents is available here: https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Lucien+Pavillet

Otherwise, her mother's name was Marcelle d'Hautecourt from the family in La Reunion Le Vaillant d'Hautecourt- I will look through for references. Classicalrecords. (talk)


 * Found this in the registry: http://gw.geneanet.org/lesmascareignes?n=dambray+le+vaillant+d+hautecourt&oc=&p=marie+marcelle

Classicalrecords. (talk)


 * Hi, again, the genealogy info is user-generated content... I mentioned that above... so not a reliable source.


 * Regarding Lucien, unless there's something that specifically ties his name to her name... the photo is the only thing and since the caption is user-generated content, that's not the best... then, it's best not to keep adding information about him.–CaroleHenson (talk) 08:48, 16 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I have the official Death Certificate here with me which contains the names of her parents, where and how may I upload it? Classicalrecords. (talk)


 * That's a primary record... and what is needed is to glean information from the record:
 * title = name of the person who died
 * date of death =
 * date issued =
 * what organization issued / publisher = county?
 * other information for the article, like the parent's names


 * It is also good to look at WP:COI about contributing to articles to which someone has a close connection.–CaroleHenson (talk) 12:56, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Classicalrecords. I will leave it at that if its complicated, I was trying share all information I had collected having been working on a project on french pianists/ I was able to get my hands on a PDF of this from a piano tutour during my research. I will try now to help with Lazare-Levy's page when I get a chance.


 * Oh, gotcha! Ok. If you change your mind, I am happy to format it if you fill in the items after the = sign.–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:55, 16 June 2017 (UTC)