User talk:ClemRutter/Archives/2010/June

McNaughts
Hi, I was intrigued by this pair of stubs. Found the dates for Glasgow chap in ODNB, then noticed identical dates for Rochdale man - seems extraordinary coincidence. But looking at your ref, the taped interview, it says "In 1845 (Patent no. 11,001) John McNaught of Glasgow introduced". Spot the difference? Do you want to check this out and see whether your William of Glasgow ought to be John? PamD (talk) 10:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I was doing that when we hit an edit conflict. I think your dates are right- but the patent was taken out in the name of his father firm. Further on in the tape it mentioned the two men were cousins and one or possible both has sons called John and William. I am googling like mad- and hope to find something in a book like Marsden from http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books.html#M. Together we can crack it! --ClemRutter (talk) 10:38, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll leave it to you!. I trust that you know about online access to Oxford Dictionary of National Biography through your local public library? If by any chance it doesn't provide it, or you aren't a member, you can join Lancashire county library online and get access to it and to lots of other goodies (some of like the Times archive they had before Leeds City Library, so I joined them last year - they aren't fussy about you having to live or work locally). PamD (talk) 10:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * And I've created a dab page at William McNaught for this pair and a couple of others! PamD (talk) 10:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the Library tip. I need also the write something on J & W McNaught which may leave McNaught(Rochdale) as a redirect. --ClemRutter (talk) 10:51, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Compound engine and IHP
I tend to get carried away! I only started editing this because I recognised a need for the redirect 'cross-compound engine' and realised that in the little list they were all plurals... (I should be working in the garden right now!)

Anyway...I have moved your new note regarding 'ihp' to the end of the article (as a 'note'). Apart from correcting a typo ('compount') I haven't changed the text, but I don't think it quite makes sense. It's OK to 'understated', but then gets a bit confusing. Could you have another look please?

BTW, there is a redirect 'Indicated horsepower' that may be of use (although 'Nominal horsepower' doesn't yet)...

EdJogg (talk) 10:50, 19 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that was a quick and dirty edit- that needs a fix. I know that finding the ref for William McNaught (Glasgow) patent of the term, is going to be a bugger as I have already wasted hours googling him to find a solution to the J & W McNaught problem/obsession. It was at this point I decided that there really did need to be an article Glossary of steam engine terminology but you beat me to it. When we have it, we can remove the footnote. I am looking what OGFB (Stanley Graham) has in the Lancashire Textile Project. He has emailed me in the past saying we can use any of the images on his site (except ones related to Steeplejacks, provided they are attributed.

Alan Lowndes
You deleted my reference to Alan Lowndes because he is “not mentioned elsewhere in article”. Neither is Lowry! And Lowndes is a Stockport artist who has recently had an exhibition there:

http://www.stockport.gov.uk/services/leisureculture/culture/stockportartgallery/artgalleryevents/alanlowndes

“Friederich” —Preceding unsigned comment added by Friederich (talk • contribs) 16:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * You have a serious point- there is no section on local artists. If you look at Glasgow you will see;


 * 1) 6 Culture

* 6.1 Recreation

* 6.2 Music scene

* 6.3 Media

* 6.4 Religion

* 6.5 Dialect

* 6.6 Architecture

* 6.7 Housing


 * 1) 7 Healthcare


 * Even here there is no section on visual arts. This is a great opportunity to do a bit of writing. I have parked the link at external links until it has been written. Yes it looks great and having new talent from Heaton Norris cannot be wrong. I have Googled his images, and only found one with the viaduct on it (at that point I moved the link)- which was the point being made. I cannot remember seeing any of his works displayed locally before 1970 whereas Lowry was in 1967. Similarly, the wikipage on Lowndes is very thin. So if you have the skills- go for it, and I'll help you to comply with Wiki isms.

--ClemRutter (talk) 18:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)