User talk:ClemRutter/Archives/2011/April

Manchester Grade II* listed mills
Have been ploughing through the list of Grade II* listed buildings in Greater Manchester. Now complete for Manchester except for Brownfield Mill, Paragon Mill and Victoria Mill. Details below. Now, I'm no mills expert as my efforts at Royal Mill show. But I would like to finish the list. What about if I try, using your template, and then you review? Sound ok? Or, you could do them. Much simpler but I've no idea if you have time. Am grateful for your continuing advice. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 21:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Brownfield Mill
 * c.1825
 * Binns Place, Ancoats
 * Paragon Mill
 * 1912
 * Jersey Street, Ancoats
 * Victoria Mill
 * 1869
 * George Woodhouse
 * Lower Vickers Street, Miles Platting
 * Jersey Street, Ancoats
 * Victoria Mill
 * 1869
 * George Woodhouse
 * Lower Vickers Street, Miles Platting
 * Victoria Mill
 * 1869
 * George Woodhouse
 * Lower Vickers Street, Miles Platting

Dave Collier
(diverted from EdJogg's TP). Dave has got back to me and I can have a copy of the 1500+ pages of his PhD thesis + a photo booklet for £50, which covers his photocopying costs, the binding of the thing in three volumes + postage @ £10-something. He has just retired and is very busy at the moment but has agreed that he'd like to take an involvement here at some point when his life settles down a bit. He also - probably rightly - says that he thinks he can offer a lot of info on engineering companies etc in the north-west.

I'm going to push ahead with this and send him a cheque. It is a fair chunk of money (to me, at any rate, as I am yet again out of work) but very reasonable in terms of copying costs. I know that WP is timeless etc but there are various issues that I really want to resolve - notably on W & J Galloway & Sons - & £50 seems cheap at the price. So, give me a couple of weeks to gather the dough, a week for the thing to turn up and then we're on a roll. He does intend to convert it to PDF etc himself in due course but by the sound of it that project is nowhere near the top of his !"to do" list (fair enough, and he has acknowledged my offer of help in this regard). £50 is a heck of a lot cheaper than me trekking over to the university library at Manchester for days on end, which would be the alternative even allowing for my pretty good abilities at gutting sources etc. I'll let you know when I've got a copy and then feel free to pester ask me for any searches etc relating to, well, anything you think might be in there. As far as I am concerned, once I have the thing then I can copy/scan etc and pass on as people require. I'm pretty sure that this will not be a breach of copyright as long as the usual rules re: cites/attribution etc are followed. It is, after all, freely available in the uni library. - Sitush (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Template for Commons
Hi Clem, your template looks impressive. I will be adding it to my pictures (not as sharp as yours~). Pleased to see we have so many pictures. You may like to look here to see some of the stuff we did. Any help you can give with getting the Wright Challenge moving would be helpful but I know you are busy!! I'm off to the AGM this afternoon to tell them what we did! Victuallers (talk) 12:56, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Whitehurst & Son sundial (1812)
Why the "(1810)"? Is there another W&S sundial for which you're about to create an article? I was going to Move the page to the non-disambiguated title, but wondered if there was something didn't know about. PamD (talk) 20:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Good Question, can you revisit it in a month. I am most unsure of the title- it is just that it is referred to as the 1812 sundial at Derby museum, and part of the Derby GLAM initiative is to investigate how we can co-operate with the museum service- and encourage the curatorial staff to become actively involved in article approval and creation. I don't know if this will stimulate them to produce another dial from backstage. I think they would like to see Derby in the title. I am 250 miles aways from my reference books, and need to do a lot of cross checking and xreffing. This is a spratto catch a mackerel. I suspect that the date of this dial is interesting, coming at a point before the railways changed Derbyś attitude to time, and Whitehurst & Son were clockmakers while it was a craft.
 * I can't imagine that the article name will survive in either form for too long. Watch this space!--ClemRutter (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2011 (UTC)


 * OK I'll leave it! I've already moved a couple of the other Derby articles to (I hope) better titles. PamD (talk) 21:55, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

hello cotton
Hi what were the powers at be complaining about with this link. I have loads of stuff about the cotton industry picture wise i have taken lots and lots of pictures and you can see them on the englishmills website i carnt add pictures yet on here so will have to try and get that sorted thanks again for your commects and i hope you liked the video regards chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Englishmills (talk • contribs) 11:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Manchester wikimeet in June
Hello. The next Manchester wikimeet will be sometime in June (date TBD) - would you be interested in coming? See Meetup/Manchester 8 for details. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:08, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I would be very interested- but it depends on the logistics- June is a bit full and 250 miles makes coming for the afternoon a little awkward. --ClemRutter (talk) 08:38, 27 April 2011 (UTC)