User talk:ClemRutter/Archives/2011/September

From Derby
And rew D alby 12:08, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

What the heck?
There's a query raised at Spinning mule as to what a "heck" is. As you were the one who added it, is there any chance you could perhaps add a bit of explanation as to what they are. Thanks. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * You are not the first one to crack that pun. Google is totally useless because of it. Heres a reference [www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/articles/ftw_spin.pdf] Basically the spindle on a Saxony wheel is a two part affair the bobbin which turns fast to receive the thread is enclosed in a faster turning two legged/winged flyer turning faster that puts a twist in the thread. on the legs are a series of wires that are used to guide the thread onto the correct place on the bobbin. Each of these wires is a a heck, or all of them make up the heck (not sure). The heck was infact the precursor of the ring, on the traveller in later ring spinning frames. The wheel is called a Saxony wheel which implies a German origin. Heck- is a Dutch word meaning gate, grid or grating. The grating bit could explain the other usage of Heck as a euphemism for hell. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll either explain that inline or (more likely) knock out a mini article on it. Those hooks are a pretty obvious part of spinning wheels, so they are plenty notable, even for this place. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:11, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I never got round to writing Saxony wheel- but that is the place for it all I think. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:45, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm in Wales. If I called it a Saxony wheel, I'd probably be lynched by the Druids. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:50, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This has led me to looking as the quality and importance ratings given to articles- and particularly in the field of industrial textile processes. A lot come under the watchful eye of the Textile Arts Project which is an obvious case of mission creep. Then I was wondering why no-one had reassessed Chimney sweep and found that project group had 5 members (have a look for your self). Then I had a look again at Weaver and despair set in. Any suggestions --ClemRutter (talk) 21:05, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Frindsbury Cricket Club
Was PRODded five days ago. As you created it with the comment that it was too detailed for the Frindsbury article, it's your call as to whether or not to challenge the PROD and be prepared to defend the article at AfD. Mjroots (talk) 18:40, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't the energy to defend this one- I'll let it wither. --ClemRutter (talk) 20:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe a brief section in the Frindsbury article would be sufficient? Mjroots (talk) 06:38, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have taken the text and parked it at Talk:Frindsbury Extra-as it is not even in Frindsbury. It is loads of trouble to do this right- there don't seem to be any Kentwikicricketers out there.--ClemRutter (talk) 23:12, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no idea which came first, but the text is similar to here and here. Regards, Mr Stephen (talk) 23:30, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Rochester Castle
It's only been, what, nine months since I said I'd rewrite the article? Anyway I've finally got round to it and wondered what you thought. Nev1 (talk) 21:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I have been watching this page develop over the last few days. It is impressive. Are you going for GA and FA? You are moving too fast for me to make constructive suggestions! Are you intending to do anything on the town walls and priory walls 1225, 1344 1380 etc? Or construction techniques with rubble and ashlar, ragstone and geology? Well done.--ClemRutter (talk) 23:42, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the talk page comments, I only just noticed your reply here. I opted for FAC as I think the level of detail is beyond that required for GA, I suppose only time will tell. I think a bit more could be added on the importance of Rochester's location, but I'm not familiar with the Rochester Bridge Wardens Trust. It's not been covered by any of the sources specifically on the castle I've looked at. The article used to mention Chatham Docks as taking over from the castle's military role and contributing to its decline of Rochester, but it seems that the construction of Upnor Castle had a much more significant and Rochester declined independent of Chatham's emergence. As for current restoration and conservation work, do you think Restore Rochester Castle should be mentioned? Nev1 (talk) 13:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)