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Steve Finnan
Good work with expanding this article! Mattythewhite (talk) 17:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, please help with the grammar if you have the time. Just take a look and sort out any grammar problem. Cliniic (talk) 18:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've had a go at fixing some grammatical and WP:MoS issues. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 23:08, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

budget and gross
On a lot of Indian films you are adding budget and gross information. Thanks for that. I have a question though. On many of them you use IBOS for budget and BOI for gross. Well, IBOS has gross information as well, and sometimes the numbers are quite different, such as on Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham..., where you changed numbers that I had recently added. Can you tell me why you use two different sources, and can you reconcile the differences between them? Do you understand all of the numbers on IBOS? BollyJeff ||  talk  03:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

It is preferable to use BOI as its better and more reliabe than IBOS but it doesn't show budget figures so I use both. For ex BOI shows the top grossing movies in a single page with 3 sections - the India gross, overseas gross and total wordwide gross. Simple to use. Viewing the film info individually on IBOS is confusing as it has put up the domestic totals in Indian currency and the overseas total in the respective foreign currency and that too only of the US and UK market. Both the websites however show only domestic totals if you check out the films sorted by the year or by the decade. IBOS has made it's own figures all the more confusing as they have put up the "Raw Collection" figures in their lists as compared to the total domestic box office totals BOI uses.

http://ibosnetwork.com/asp/topgrossersbyyear.asp?year=2001 - I think this is from where you got the Rs 45 crore figure for KKKG? Well check it out, the 45 crore it shows only the "Raw Collection". Viewing the film main page - you also get this figure "Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham Box Office Gross: 65.25 crores". Even then it has not included the overseas totals(shown separately) of 3,115,782 (USA) or £2,498,281 (UK) let alone the rest of the world figures which is entirely absent from IBOS.

There are variations in the gross figures but I think BOI is more reliable as I've seen newspapers citing figures that closely match that of BOI compared to IBOS. I understand the IBOS numbers confusing as they are, do you need any help? Cliniic (talk) 05:35, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * That makes sense. Refering to http://ibosnetwork.com/asp/filmbodetails.asp?id=Kabhi+Khushi+Kabhie+Gham, what is the difference between Raw Box Office Net Collections and Box Office Gross? Also, the problem I have with BOI, is they don't go back far enough. Please check out my comments on Talk:List of highest-grossing Bollywood films, adjusted for inflation, which no one has answered yet. I am trying to determine if Sholay is in fact the highest ever, adjusted of course. BollyJeff  ||  talk  16:21, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

"Raw Box Office Net Collections" are simply net collections. There is an entertainment tax on film earnings from tickets in India, the net collections are after this tax has been levied while the simple box office gross is the actual earning. BOI has inflation figures for top films of the past btw, you must have missed it. I'll reply to the other talk page but your question is easy enough to answer, 3 idiots is the all time highest grossing Indian movie regardless of inflation. Cliniic (talk) 17:49, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

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I cited reason for the revert dude! please check before making claims. Cliniic (talk) 18:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, you may be right on the controversy. but we always add local names on biosLihaas (talk) 01:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

no problem. also it was agreed not to use native scripts in lead in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_48#Native_languages_in_lead indic scripts have been reverted countless times since then. Cliniic (talk) 01:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Kingdom of Assam
Now it is known as Ahom kingdom. Though it is of academic interest that it was known as Kingdom of Assam, we should use the standard name for the kingdom today. Chaipau (talk) 13:35, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "Before his death in 1268, Sukapha had conquered a large portion of the Upper Assam Valley" Handbuch Der Orientalistik: Volume 1; Volume 10 - Page 328 ref for conquest of upper assam. also he is described as defeating the morans etcs in the regions of the former kingdom of kamarupa. does that not mean he defeated some of the successor states of kamarupa while conquering upper assam? or do you think morans as tribes are not worthy of being called successor states? Cliniic (talk) 13:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * "The invaders were dis-spirited lot, realising that "it was easy to get in but difficult to get out". The Peace Treaty signed laid down, among others: 1. Jayadhvaj was to send a daughter to the imperial Ahom Rule" Encyclopedia of North-East India - Page 187 see ref for ahom being described as imperial Cliniic (talk) 13:45, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Please take this discussion to Talk:Sukaphaa. Chaipau (talk) 13:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

lasty while I agree it is known as the Ahom Kingdom today back then it was established as the Kingdom of Assam. see page of constantine the great. it is written he founded the eastern roman empire. while it came to be known as byzantine empire by modern scholars it shows the original name for founding it. Cliniic (talk) 13:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Mukherjee
I am not sure when the "Reactions" section first appeared but it should not exist. Such things are deprecated as undue weight. Any relevant reactions should be incorporated into the prose of the article as a whole. - Sitush (talk) 09:46, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

actually I created the reactions section to put in the team anna statements. if you think even that is undue fair enough I will just incorporate it into the presential section itself. I am still in the process of expanding it Cliniic (talk) 09:49, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah. I beat you to it! I've not got a lot of time this week but will be back working on the article before long. Keep doing what you do. - Sitush (talk) 09:53, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

thanks Sitush. btw I left you a comment regarding Afghanistan wiki page. I would have tackled it myself but I am very careful about editing pages of major nations. need your expertise there! (Cliniic (talk) 09:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC))

oh just saw you replied already. nevermind! Cliniic (talk) 09:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi I created the article on the Tarini Charan Girls high school. It is an education instutition (not a company or an organisation) so why has it been put for speedy deletion? The criteria for speedy deletion says "This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as an article about a company, corporation, organization, or group that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Note that educational institutions are not eligible under this criterion."

it says here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools/Criteria_for_Speedy_Deletion_A7 that schools are exempt from the criteria.

I had just created the article and in the process of expanding it. Cliniic (talk) 08:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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I am still working on it but I'm also active in some other articles so I am not working on it as much as I've liked to. I am not sure if that means the construction tag should be removed..its obviously incomplete and needs to be worked upon. cheers! Cliniic (talk) 19:34, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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i am not getting you..what do you mean by hatnotes? Cliniic (talk) 23:14, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

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it was WP:OR and WP:Synthesis. please read the articles before adding them back in. Cliniic (talk) 11:07, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the work there, I requested here yesterday after the second revert. I was going to remove the "illegal.." portion today! --Tito Dutta (talk) 00:49, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah Khushwant Singh is no where near unbiased POV when it comes to certain touchy concepts. I strongly recommend you to read this http://www.scribd.com/doc/18248123/What-Really-Happened-in-1947-An-Open-Letter-to-Khushwant-Singh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.253.171.9 (talk) 12:00, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

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