User talk:ClobberDogy

Welcome!

Hello, ClobberDogy, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Vacationair, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type helpme on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! noq (talk) 09:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Vacationair
A tag has been placed on Vacationair requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. noq (talk) 09:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Estrellas del Aire


The article Estrellas del Aire has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No indication of notability. Just because it existed does not make it WP:Notable. Directories and pictures do not establish notability. See WPReliable sources

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. noq (talk) 09:35, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Air Brasd'or


The article Air Brasd'or has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No indication of notability. Just because it existed does not make it WP:Notable. Pictures do not establish notability. See WPReliable sources

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. noq (talk) 09:35, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Alcon Servicios Aereos, S.A. de C.V.


The article Alcon Servicios Aereos, S.A. de C.V. has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No indication of notability. Just because it existed does not make it WP:Notable. Directories and forums do not establish notability. See WPReliable sources

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. noq (talk) 09:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bancjet Systems


The article Bancjet Systems has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No indication of notability. Just because it existed does not make it WP:Notable. Pictures loaded to wiki commons do not establish notability. See WPReliable sources Claim of Accidents has no references

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. noq (talk) 09:38, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Estrellas del Aire
I have nominated Estrellas del Aire, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Estrellas del Aire. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. noq (talk) 08:17, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Alcon Servicios Aereos, S.A. de C.V.
I have nominated Alcon Servicios Aereos, S.A. de C.V., an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Alcon Servicios Aereos, S.A. de C.V.. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. noq (talk) 08:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Air Brasd'or
I have nominated Air Brasd'or, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Air Brasd'or. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. noq (talk) 11:37, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome
You've gotten off to a busy start with these new articles!

Thanks for doing all this.

Unfortunately, as you've probably seen, some either have been deleted or are being considered for deletion. That's because we're pretty picky about the concepts of "notability" and "verifiability".

Wikipedia's got hundreds of pages of guidelines and policies. I'm an administrator here and I sure don't know them all. The good news is that you don't have to either. Instead, take a few minutes to carefully read this page: That sums up about 90% of the rules you need to actually know.
 * Wikipedia's most important rules:
 * Simplified ruleset

Next, if you're going to create new articles, read over this guideline carefully. Very carefully.
 * New articles and "notability"
 * Notability Guideline

It governs which articles qualify for inclusion on Wikipedia and which don't. I have an instinct that all of the airlines you've created articles for are notable by our standards, but unfortunately, it's difficult to prove -- the media articles or books that establish this aren't readily available online since these airlines went out of business before Internet.

I noticed you created an article that about Bancjet Systems that was deleted. I have "restored" the article to a sub-page of this user page. That means it's not officially part of the encyclopedia and is not subject to our notability requirements. You can work on the article and find references for it, then when it meets our requirements, we can re-establish it as a regular article. You'll find this article at
 * Bancjet Systems
 * User:ClobberDogy/Bancjet Systems.

If the notice says:
 * Don't remove certain deletion notices
 * "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the Guide to deletion."

Don't delete it! People get really huffy about that around here (it's a long story as to why they do). You did that with the Air Bras d'or article. Instead, go to the deletion discussion for that article: Read others' comments, then add your own opinions.
 * Articles for deletion/Air Brasd'or

That article was also deleted; I've recovered it and move it to another user sub-page for you:
 * Vacationair
 * User:ClobberDogy/Vacationair

That article was also deleted; I've recovered it and move it to another user sub-page for you:
 * Estrellas del Aire
 * User:ClobberDogy/Estrellas del Aire

Again, welcome to Wikipedia!

-- A. B. (talk • contribs) 02:51, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Some similar deleted articles have also been recovered and moved to user subpages:
 * User:Brandon Steven Piña Sanchez/GATSA
 * User:Brandon Steven Piña Sanchez/GPM Aeroservicio
 * User:Floribert Piña/Astoria (airline)
 * User:Floribert Piña/Facts Air
 * User:Floribert Piña/Hawk De Mexico
 * User:Floribert Piña/Holidair
 * User:Floribert Piña/Regal Air
 * -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 23:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

September 2010
Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Estrellas del Aire. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you. noq (talk) 23:36, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

User:ClobberDogy/Vacationair
I fixed the page here so that its not listed in the category. User pages should not appear with articles in categories. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 10:23, 7 September 2010 (UTC)