User talk:ClockworkSoul/Archive10

AMA request
Hello, person with whom I've never interacted, I'm currently one of the subjects of Requests for arbitration/Webcomics. From the list at Association of Members' Advocates, the only names I recognized were yours, Friday's, and errr, Snowspinner's.  I'd like a conduit through which my responses can be channelled constructively without whipping up further bloodlust. Would you have the time and the inclination? brenneman (t) (c) 04:34, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't have a talk-page policy, but I'll respond to everything on my page if that's ok with you. - brenneman (t) (c)  06:47, 8 December 2005 (UTC) (The question is, where will you post the answer?)
 * Posted note on my talk. - brenneman (t) (c)  06:18, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Just thought I'd let you know...
...that you now have a (very badly written by myself) wikibio of yourself, here. Now stick &#123;{user wikibio}} somewhere on your awe-inspiringly transcluded userpage :) Alphax &tau;&epsilon;&chi; 12:40, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Erm, possibly that was supposed to be "included". Using template-like contructs. The &#123;&#123;&#125;&#125;s. Alphax &tau;&epsilon;&chi; 05:38, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Question regarding the Smilodon article
Text removed by original author due to the issue being resolved. --aremisasling 02:51, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for fixing my page. I was hoping someone else would do it to show that I am supported. There is raging vandalism everywhere today--File Éireann 16:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 * hes vandalised my page again.--File Éireann 16:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for blocking the vandal. I hate having my talk page vandalised.--File Éireann 17:01, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Dead Bodies Don't Drown
Do you seriously sit around deleting pages? So I started a page for my clothing company. If no one knows about it, then whats the point of removing it? I'm sure theres a lot of useless info on this site that could go unknown. And what makes something "known"? The fact that it means something to you? -Lacstewie 18:28, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Is this company still "unknown"? --71.71.213.126 (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Chavbensimons
This user has just vandalised several pages, including this page. A block looms over the horizon.--File Éireann 22:36, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Don't know how you do it, but please don't tell me
You have some of the best unintentional humor on your talk page of any I've seen. I assume you must rack these up due to NP patrol and RC patrol. If I'm not voluminous enough on the workshop page and talk page of the ongoing RFar, you can also see some of my version of logic chopping of it on my talk page. Geogre 01:34, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Just pointing that out because I'm going to have to archive sooner than usual due to length, and I don't want to obscure anything that might be of worth (e.g. the comments of others, as my views are well known). Geogre 01:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcome remark
I noticed that you welcomed User:Almit39, with a message on user's talk page. I have just one remark. I wonder why you did not sign the welcome, I thought it is better if the user can get hold of the welcoming person. Wonder what you think. You can reply here, I will keep this page on my watchlist for a while. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 19:14, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I always sign my welcomes... if I missed one, it was just an oversight. Thanks fo rthe heads up. :) – ClockworkSoul 20:12, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm... interesting. That welcome was dated October 8, 2004. You somehow managed to find the one welcome in over a year that I didn't sign! Cheers! – ClockworkSoul 20:19, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I din't notice the welcome was so old. :) I guess your clock is working better than mine. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Belated welcome
Hi! I'm very happy to know you haven't just gone off! It was worrysome to be left hanging like that, but you know such a thing will happen sooner or later. Then someone will make User dead and someone else will mark it for deletion. Ashibaka tock 06:21, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, the politics of the WIkipedia... how could I stay away from all this? Seriously, though, it's great to be back. – ClockworkSoul 14:53, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Esperanza elections
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CV
Hey ClockWorkSoul, I have my own template for the Communism vandal: It may be a personal attack, but its true:

Sorry to whom it may offend, but by looking at this dude's work some things must be said. .... ε  γκυκλοπαίδεια  *  (talk)  01:38, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Heya, Encyclopedist. It's cute (and true!) but it's really not my style. – ClockworkSoul 14:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

s0z0
Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Apparent bad-faith edits that do not make their bad-faith nature inarguably explicit are not considered vandalism at Wikipedia. Booyeah bitches.

Fuck your fucking couch, because you classified my first attempt at fixing a small error in an inconsequential page, my entire run here will be one of vandalizm and chaos.

thanks for giving me something to do, royboycrashfan

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Thanks for notice
Thanks for the barnstar and your kind words. Doc 17:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello ClockworkSoul
I would respectfully aske you to reevalute your stance.

The articte does not have any copyrighted material, all quotes are from scholars, and that is not copyrighted. It is true that i got the quotes from a web-site, but that does not mean that the one that collected the quotes have copyright over them. If that would be that case, nothing would be allowed to be quoted more than once.

The actual text from the article i got the quotes are not included in the article you deleted, it was totaly re-writen.

Fact is, the copyright allegation was forwarded by User:Zora, a user i feel stalked by. That is her way to get rid of the inoformation i presented. But in fact, her allegation does not hold a close scrutiny.

I look forward to your answer. Thanks --Striver 00:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Wacky Neighbor
Hi -- I guess I was taking a small liberty with the term "neighbor." I figured in a show that seldom or never showed anyone's home (Cheers, Barney Miller), certainly there could still be a wacky neighbor -- maybe the wierd guy in the next cubicle, the manager of the restaurant next door, the uniformed officer who wants to be a plainclothes detective, etc. Note The Stuart's comment on 22 August -- he says Joey on Friends isn't a wacky neighbor because he is one of the main characters. So I figured a wacky neighbor could be any supporting or lesser character who is not a main character, and who is kind of quirky. I would argue that Klinger on MASH IS a wacky neighbor: he certainly was quirky, and in such a small "town" as a MASH unit, wasn't everyone a "neighbor"? Same thing with Festus on Gunsmoke: Dodge was a small town. No, it wasn't a sit-com, but the article doesn't state "exclusively in situation comedy." Still, I do respect your opinion on this matter, and I draw my colors. Would it be ok to list "every character other than Oliver and Lisa on Green Acres"? Dogosaurus 03:46, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Huh? – ClockworkSoul 04:39, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Did I post this on the wrong user's page? This is my first time replying to someone who had posted a message for me. I guess I need to figure out how to post... Sorry for the confusion.Dogosaurus 06:02, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I have no idea how I managed to post my original Wacky Neighbor comments on your page. I just registered yesterday (though I've been posting anonymously for a while), and I'm still trying to find my way around. My apologies again for what must have seemed like a bizarre message! Dogosaurus 06:08, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
...for your welcome message and the link to the tutorial. Arga Warga 17:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

... and for the redirect. Arga Warga 20:05, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Spamlink?
I was wondering what was wrong with that link. Are you running a bot? I went to that article and read it. It was about the subject at hand (John Edwards). It is the second time someone has removed that link as spam, and I have no idea why. It was added by another editor a while back. --DocJohnny 03:50, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Howdy Mister Soul, thanks for the answer. I went through his history and see that now. Well, it was an ok link, but not breathtaking. --DocJohnny 03:59, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Why ...
... Because they were better representations of the external links and descriptions being provided, which is the essence of the Wikipedia -- ever changing, ever growing. Not taking it personally, but a website like usa-presidents.info, who's domain was registered just 1 year ago and who simply cut and paste content from others and call it a website, is a travesty. Because we have a directory that is rich in relevant information we thought the addition of our external links would be a service to the Wikipedia rather than hinder its development and growth. I won't ask you reconsider your actions but I do invite you to review our "About Us" page to learn more -- or not. -Parajuris 08:13, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy Crimbo!
Have a Proper and Merry Crimbo. , in fact here is a pressie from the Doctor to you. Ho. Ho. Ho! Dr. McCrimbo 23:24, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Happy holidays!


Hi, ClockworkSoul! I hope you have an enjoyable and relaxing winter break. :) Take care, Sango  123   (talk)  00:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Years
Greetings.

Thanks for the compliment about my username. I'm kind of attached to it myself.

I personally think the dictum to refrain from linking (or to de-link currently linked) individual years is needlessly pedantic and provides no benefit to Wikipedia. That said, I am airing my opinions elsewhere and will defer to what appears to be the standard, however much I may disagree with it. I have reverted Beer back to your edit.

All the best. Ξxtreme Unction |yakkity yak 16:46, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Short Circuit
Wasn't it so bad that it was great? No disassemble!!!! ;) JohnnyFive 10:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Caffeine
Care to comment on this edit? ? You're much more knowledgeable of the area than I am. Ohnoitsjamie 21:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. I think that the anon editor had good intentions, but for some reason the secondary source that he cited was being misleading. The web page's "science page" cites "Biochemist, Apr/May 1993, p 15. copyright of Royal Society of Chemistry website 2000", but no such journal as "Biochemist" exists. I found a few journals with similar names, though: Biochemistry, Bioconjugate Chemistry, and Biomacromolecules. Searching the entire year of 1993 turns up two articles that mentioned caffeine, and none that mentioned both caffeine and chocolate. A quick PubMed search however, find quite a number of articles that mention finding caffeine in both cocao and chocolate in the small quantities mentioned in the caffeine article. Thanks again! – ClockworkSoul 22:56, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice research work! It didn't even occur to be to verify the source (I was more suspicious of the nature of the claims made).  Ohnoitsjamie 23:24, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Biodressing Input
Thanks for the assistance with my biodressing page. Very new to this entire wikiworld - so any help or constructive criticism is GREATLY appreciated! Mcgowan30

AMA
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Anti-Scientology userbox
I took your suggestion to heart and created this...

Mind you I find it repulsive just as I do the Scientology one. But I want to see the honest reaction of the "keep" voters. If they react favorably I'm leaving the project as being anti-anyone especially over religion is intolerable for an anyone who has any level of education.Gateman1997 01:29, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I was referring to this as an example and found you'd already made it. WP:POINT, mind you. Ashibaka tock 02:48, 7 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Yikes - I never meant anybody to go and actually do it! When you put out your flames, please take the time to review WP:POINT... – ClockworkSoul 15:01, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Comment
In the ArbCom elections, you stated "the distain for community opionion that she's shown recently force me to conclude that she has lost the ability to be rational when the going gets hot." I don't understand why you feel this way. I thought I managed to stay cool and rational despite having what amounted to a virtual lynch mob at my throat. Could you explain to me why you feel that I failed to remain rational, and in addition why you think I have "disdain for community opinion"? I did read at least the first hundred or so comments (eventually I did quit after it was apparent that nothing new was being said) and am aware of community opinion, both for and against my point of view. I remain convinced that my actions were correct, but I understand that I have failed to do an adequate job of convincing the community of this (which, in large part, is because I felt that any attempt to argue or reason with the angry mob on my RfC would just inflame the situation more). What, if anything, do you think I should do at this point to help resolve matters? Kelly Martin (talk) 19:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I put my (rather exhaustive) reply on your talk page. – ClockworkSoul 23:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll reply in more detail, but I've already noted one argument based on a misunderstanding of the facts that I want to discuss with you in more detail, since I think it might alter your opinion somewhat. I will be back in a few hours to discuss it in more detail with you.  Kelly Martin (talk) 23:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I'm too tired to write a complete reply tonight. Please accept my apologies; I will try to get back to you tomorrow.  Kelly Martin (talk) 02:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

...and thank you!
For your WikiThanks! See you around :-) --HappyCamper 15:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

An award
Drumroll, please...  smurray  inch e  ster (User), (Talk) 10:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

AMA vote
You have voted Neutral on the vote currently held at WP:AMA. I have voted Oppose, request split of voting. I suggest you do the same (or just Oppose), otherwise, the rules will pass without objection (it's not clear consensus, but first past the post), and all parts that are good from the current proposal can be accepted, and the others wiped out. Thanks — Ian Manka Questions? Talk to me! 04:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Need some help
edit: Noticed you're on wikibreak-- never mind... :( I'll find someone else. Ashibaka tock 04:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Got in touch with Rick Block but he wasn't very helpful. I'll see if I can handle this alone. Ashibaka tock 05:18, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

New AMA poll
Please have a look at the proposed election parameters under the section entitled An election proposal... and cast a ballot. Wally 23:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

History of Science, chemical warfare
Please consider joining the new WikiProject History of Science. Also, as the maintainer of the chemical warfare article, I'd like to recruit your help; I plan to fork that article soon to create History of chemical warfare. Drop me a line on my talk page when you are off WikiBreak and we can discuss how best to proceed.--ragesoss 14:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Beer Stuff
While you've been away the mice have been nibbling.... I've been barging my way quite happily through the beer project section. I've just come upon your Scottish And Irish entry. An odd marraige, no doubt devised by those buggers at BJCP who have never bothered to even glance at a map to notice that the two countries are not actually joined at the hip. Even though the people from those parts may sound alike to an American ear, that does not qualify for their beers being lumped together in such a random fashion. I am about to perform my first MOVE. If this goes wrong and Wiki is destroyed overnight, then it will be all your fault for being on a break. SilkTork 16:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

An Esperanzial note
As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: EA-welcome (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Cel e stianpower háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

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User page award nomination
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User page
I would like to use the same idea as you user page for my user page. &mdash; Hurricane Devon  (  Talk  )

AMA Coordinator Election
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Advocacy
Please Help! I need some advocacy for WP:CITE in the article derny. But that's just the underlining problem. Please I need some assistance teaching some users about verifiability and a similar, yet 223% larger problem, exists at motorized bicycle. It's a long debate about verifiability and WP:CITE. Going into WP:NPOV. Seeing what just happened with the article Derny, (I added the footnote system, and then it was removed) I think we're in for a World War of idiots. Either that, or Wikipedia guidelines are wrong, where re-written and another hidden copy exists somewhere that I haven't read. (I don't think so!) Please, due to the nature of this request and arguably unnerving nature of the subject, I would suggest perhaps taking a cup of tea before reading on into the talk:motorized bicycle. Also please only reply on your user page. Thank you for any help! --CyclePat 03:43, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

help needed
Can I get you to help me with a mediation I'm conducting at Talk:Neuro-linguistic programming? I stepped in with an outside view and was immediately personally attacked. I need some administrator firepower watching my back while I do this. Also, since I'm planning on becoming an administrator once I have more experience on wikipedia, having one watch my first mediation attempt would be helpful knowledge for me. Swatjester 15:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

User Page award
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In case you ever go to Seoul
User:ClockworkSeoul is just for you. --Shultz 06:52, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I love it! Thanks! – ClockworkSoul 14:33, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Stony Brook University
I see you sprotected Stony Brook University. The same user, originally User:Bobbydoop, has been doing these types of bizarre and noncooperative edits to pages about New York schools for several months now. The other pages that could be sprotected include St. John's University, New York, Bronx High School of Science, Alpha Phi Alpha, Stuyvesant High School, Townsend Harris High School, Brooklyn Technical High School, and Hunter College High School. Dozens of users have tried to reason and speak with him, but he is extremely stubborn. Tfine80 15:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Looking over his edits, and seeing his history and the many attempt to reason with him that have been made, it may be time for either an RfC or simply another block. When I get the chance, I'll look into trends and precedents regarding both. – ClockworkSoul 18:08, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Caffeine (natural vs synthetic)
I saw your reply to my comment. I'm afraid not much has been written because it might have been an "industrial secret". In the late 1960s, in Europe, a country that required cola to state that it contained caffeine. Probably the legislation said that no additives or no artificial things should be added. I don't know what the regulatory statutes were. The cola company asked for analyses to determine if the white powder they wanted to add to the drink was of natural origin. Which some regulatory lab would check by measuring the carbon-14 content. Thus, if the white powder had modern C-14, nobody could ascertain if it was from natural kola nuts or added. The analyses were done by the techies, as an offduty side job. The lab was doing geochemistry and archeological dating, early research on C-14 and global warming, etc. Due to the atom bomb tests we could even tell the probably dates of the powder, one for the N Hemisphere and one for the S Hemisphere. The US Customs used tritium analyses to determine if the date on the imported European wines was true. Probably also used C-14. Try to look into forensic and food-analysis literature. I was directly involved in research using photosynthetic differences between C3 and C4 plants using C-13, to trace origin of sugars, and I can more easily find published material about this aspect but it's not relevant for caffeine... Jclerman 01:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting find. A commercial lab offers an 'authenticity testing of caffeine <<... checking for natural or synthetic sources in tea, coffee or guarana-containing drinks >>

It intends to say: ''...in drinks labeled as containing tea, coffee, or guarana... ''

Jclerman 02:21, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Insane
I think that I'm going quietly insane. Honestly: I'm barely holding it together, and I think I need help. – ClockworkSoul 14:01, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much
Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it. The more that I read about meta-Wiki concepts, the more I am a little discouraged-- but that's more than balanced by my growing appreciation for the necessity and inherent good of the project. I'm excited to contribute; I'm just worried about stepping on the toes of the people who have already devoted a lot of time and effort into the project. Thanks for giving me the encouragement. Freddie deBoer 18:34, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Thanks for catching the vandalism to my user page. This guy is simply impossible. If anybody ever questions whether he is a vandal or just a deranged and aggressive, but well-meaning, editor, just point them to his edits to St. John's University. Like this for example. Tfine80 03:53, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Another Esperanzial note...
Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,

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