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First of all, thanks for your reasonable reply. Here is why I call him a troll: My take: he writes mostly about physics. If I were looking through the rfcs and saw one for physics, I wouldn't reply to it because it is a subject that I know nothing about and therefore would be in no valid position to comment. My take: since he has never showed any knowledge of beer, how does he know that "although it is not perfect it is not, in my opinion, so bad that it should not be linked to."? My take: despite the fact that he reveals no interest or knowledge in beer, people who do know beer tell him of the flaws, yet he continues to say they are minor (how does he know that?) and that he continues to support it. My take: I gave a valid reason for the temporary removal of the bjcp link, yet he reverted it. Immediately before announcing that I was going to remove it, he and I had discussed the text that should go with the link. So he was aware that an explanation had been agreed on. Why then did he revert it? Why did he accuse me of edit warring when that was what he was doing? My take: the whole history of his participation here has been single-minded in favour of the link regardless of the arguments or suggestions put forward. For someone who has little to no knowledge of the subject, he is unrealistically insistent on inclusion of the link. He does not use reason or emotion to make his case, he simply says: it doesn't matter, the link should go in. My take: if he only came in response to the rfc, he would not have stayed so long. Clearly, he has another agenda.
 * He keeps saying he came in response to a rfc, but also demonstrates no knowledge or interest in beer.
 * He immediately said "include BJCP. I am new here and come in response to the RFC and see no sign of any real consensus in the discussion above. I have had a look at the BJCP site and although it is not perfect it is not, in my opinion, so bad that it should not be linked to."
 * Despite being told that it is full of errors/flaws/whatever, he keeps supporting it.
 * Yes, his speech is mostly civil and polite, but his actions are not.
 * When we had discussed the text, I basically used your suggestion but with more direct language. He said none of that was necessary, only to say it was a home-brewing club.
 * And finally: he says he came in response to a rfc. He did that over a month ago. Why is he still here?

Fair enough? As I have told you in the past, I (and Ron Pattinson) have been personally attacked and harassed by Goethean and various trolls. The attacks by Goethean lasted two years and no administrator ever stepped in. It became crystal clear to me that WP does not always live by its own rules and that sometimes, editors must protect themselves because, despite the rules, WP will not. It was clear that Lou Pepe and friends were genuine trolls because of their language. Martin may speak like a gentleman, but his actions clearly lack good faith and npov. I don't think he is a troll, but I think he is acting like one. Mikebe (talk) 10:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Spammer
Please take a look at the Hoegaarden brewery article. There seems to be a spammer with the name Betty Taylor who is putting in links to a site under the title "Dietary Information." S/he has violated 3rr on that article. She has put these links in many beer articles. Other editors have complained about her/him as well. I hope you can do something about this. Thanks. Mikebe (talk) 10:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

In my defence I have never once violated 3RR - Mikebe is simply lying about this. You can easily verify this. I have added dietary and product information i.e. ingredient listings/nutritional information/vegetarian & coeliac suitability to articles about beers and the breweries. So far only one user other than Mikebe has objected to me adding this information and we reached a compromise to incorporate it into a pre-existing section. Mikebe has made no attempt to explain why the information I have added is irrelevant or come to a compromise and just keeps removing it. This in no way constitutes 'reaching a consensus'. Many articles about companies that produce consumables often include dietary/product/nutritional information about their products so I don't see why it is unreasonable to add it to a brewer article. Betty Logan (talk) 02:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Here you go:

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I've also filed, as you suggested on the admin noticeboard. BTW, how did things go with your exam? Or is it too soon to say? Mikebe (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Too bad. She is now edit warring with someone else on the Hoegaarden article. Will you please tell her that she must not post this spam on the beer articles. I want to remove it, but she is always edit warring with anyong who disagrees with her. This must stop! Mikebe (talk) 21:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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I wanted to say thank you for the effort you put into mediating the debate several weeks ago in Talk:Beer style. My participation was very limited due to time constraints and because it would have caused me more stress than it was worth, but I was peeking in on it from time to time and have noted that your contributions were invaluable in maintaining some degree of civility and resolution. At least for now, it seems; it appears the main opponents of the BJCP link have continued ranting on it. Not everyone in favor of BJCP has acted in a civil, exemplary manner either (you dealt with some of the offenders yourself), though I can't help wondering to what degree the behavior of the BJCP opponents has made the temptation to break the rules too much to resist by people who would otherwise be well-behaved contributors (I was getting a little tempted myself, which is one reason I had to step away from that discussion). Enough of my rambling... I just wanted you to know that your efforts in that situation are appreciated. --mwalimu59 (talk) 23:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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As you know, I'll be around NYU next weekend. Because I sort of always am:) Let me know if you want to meet up at some point. Unconventional85 (talk) 01:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

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Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards.  Kayau  Jane Eyre  PRIDE AND PREJUDICE   les miserables  03:34, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hi ClockworkSoul, I just wanted to say that it was really nice to meet you, and hang out a bit during the day at NYU. It was terrific to talk to a Wikipedian who is so eloquent and personable... nerd maybe, (we all are) but nerdy, no. It was excellent indeed to give the 3rd talk after your 2nd in the Panel at the Conference. I was fortunate to have 2 such great talks to lead into mine. I do hope your wife is going to start feeling better soon, and that she managed OK without you there during the day. I did not come to NYU today, Sunday, because I was just too tired. OK, so any time you want to get into a museum free, any museum, but especially the AMNH, where I can get 4 other people in for free including movies and special exhibits, just let me know. Or if you want to know more about gastropods! Ha ha. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 23:55, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Likewise - and I hope your projects go well, too. :-) GreenReaper (talk) 19:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ditto. I meant to ask you how you feel about community-enforced name changes, too, but didn't find the time ;)   I hope we meet again, +sj +  02:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, our panel simply could not have been better and smoother or more cohesive, or more interesting I think! Your data was fascinating! So, anytime at all I can take you and up to three other people into AMNH and get all tickets for free. Whatever I can tell you about invertebrate zoology I would be happy to. It's huge field of course and so therefore I know only a tiny bit of it. You are welcome to email me and I can give you our phone number. I don't work, so even a weekday would be good if you had a day off or whatever. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 00:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Your presentation/paper
Great presentation on Project lifecycles, do you have anything citeable? --Reagle (talk) 13:32, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, just let me know when you've posted something. --Reagle (talk) 18:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

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Great to meet you as well, and I was sorry I didn't get the chance to talk to you more&mdash;hope to run into you at other events (in your copious spare time)! Cheers, Kat Walsh (spill your mind?) 01:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

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During your research, did you produce a functioning list of the currently existing WikiProjects? &mdash;harej (talk) (cool!) 02:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
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I imagine you already received several of these before, but what the heck, a couple of nice cold CG beers for you, made entirely from natural electrons. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 22:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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Please, be my guest. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 02:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Good job. :) Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 02:46, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

In case you aren't watching my page
I have no objection to your blocking User:Fpadampunk as VOA. It does seem warranted. I have very little experience in the assessment of such things. I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring your post. See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  02:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

User Page
How do you make a section with a scroll down bar? I would like to have one on my user page for my Article Created section as it is getting to big. I have created a subpage for it, User:WVRMad/Articles Created but what do I do next?

Thanks, WVRMAD • Talk  • Guestbook   16:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried that but seem to be doing something wrong.
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 * Thankyou, its great! If I change the colour or border I'll let you know!


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Why thanks!
Sir/Madam, what a kind think to say!

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Hi CS - sorry for the delay in replying but I'm travelling overseas at the moment (am typing in Ankara, Turkey at present). Wow, that's my first Barnstar in nearly 8 years of editing. I've made a note about the actual history of Wikiprojects here which you may find interesting. Nice work on the tabulation by the way. Cheers Manning (talk) 02:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

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Which is why I'm not asking for any seeing as you must be busy with that real world thing you speak of and it'd be hard for you to come up with absolutes. Anyway, getting to the point, do you think you'll be getting back into developing Igor once more? The issues regarding it plain not working seem to have gone and I think it's too good a tool to just let languish in development hell. treelo radda 09:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

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