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Draft: Andrea Jourdan cookbook author
Hi Clovermoss, I am new at Wikipedia, thanks for the welcome, I'm just a food fan trying to help where possible, Andrea Jourdan is a Canadian personality well-known because she's written so many books in such a short span - I'd love some help as I'm not that familiar with Wikipedia, yes I know a little about text editing but not much - can you guide me a little as to what's a reliable source notably as I'm uncertain what that means, same with the insufficient context. How can that draft be improved (and be accepted by the community), I'd love to know. Once I get the jist of editing, sources and context, I shall move onto additional food editing! Imafoodfan (talk) 02:23, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll try to help as much as I can :) I'm still learning about Wikipedia myself even though I've been around awhile, but I can probably help with some basic questions and be a friendly face. Feel free to reach out to me whenever, because if I don't have an answer I can probably find one for you. I'm also Canadian and although I'm not all that familar with Andrea Jourdan, I admire your efforts to improve the draft as she clearly deserves an article of her own. As for text editing, it's just a matter of learning how to use it and there's a lot of different things you can do use it for. If there's anything specific you want to learn how to do, I can try and help with that. Now, to finally answer your question (sorry for all the words, I just didn't want to leave anything that might be helpful to read out); a reliable source on Wikipedia is different from notability, but both are important. There's this page about reliable sources, but the gist is this: when writing content, it's ideal to cite a trustworthy source of information. Notability is usually more of an issue when it comes to new articles, but I don't think it's as much as an issue in this case because Andrea has written so many books and reliable sources (e.g. people who aren't her) have written about her accomplishments. One last thing, I see that the draft was resubmitted to Articles for Creation (also known as AFC). I think that it's in better shape than the last submisson, so it has a higher likihood of passing this time. A review is currently waiting and might take a while, but if you want I can try to help with the article in-between. If there's anything you want me to clarify about any of this, feel free to ask me for clarification. Clovermoss (talk) 03:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

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Katherine Hughes
Hi, Clovermoss. Looking at the conversation about Katherine Hughes (activist) on again, I remembered that  has done a lot of work on women in the Irish revolutionary period. She might well be worth talking to. Scolaire (talk) 11:12, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Accidental replyto
I accidentally used your username on my talk page. Must have seen it on a page and accidentally copied it in. I've fixed the issue but you might get a notification about it. Sorry about the error! Jaydavidmartin (talk) 02:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I usually use pings, like this: . I'm not familar with every usage of the replyto template, as I've never used it, but my understanding is that it works in a very similar way. Something I learned earlier about the ping system is that if you change the username (or just forget to sign the reply) it doesn't actually notify the other person, so I'm not sure if got a notification about your reply. Thanks for letting me know about the accidental ping, I probably would have spent awhile trying to figure out why I was notified without the heads up. Clovermoss (talk) 06:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Royal Ontario Museum
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Your talkpage history has been cleaned-up so that the offending material is not generally visible. Sorry that you had experience that. If you face such such interactions in the future, ask any admin (on their talkpage) to intervene or post a brief message at WP:ANI; other than that try to ignore such trolling as best as you can. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 22:28, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

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You've got mail
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 * Please let me know when you've received the mail, or just blank this section to confirm :) --kingboyk (talk) 00:08, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Just had an edit conflict with you. Yes, I have read it. Thanks for the advice. Did you know that this is the first time someone has ever emailed me? Clovermoss (talk) 00:12, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Nope. The email system is private so the only way I'd have of knowing is if I trawled through your talk page history looking for clues :)
 * I think it's always been fairly unusual for users to email each other, as most business can be done - and is best done - on wiki. It's handy for the rare instance (like this one) where some potentially sensitive information needs to be relayed, and I imagine is very commonly used by the folks who coordinate sockpuppet investigations and so on.
 * I couldn't tell you when I first received a Wikipedia email but probably an embarrassingly long time ago! I've had a few Wikipedians as Facebook friends in the past and I imagine that was arranged by email.
 * The most recent I received was a request to unblock, which was a bit pointless really as the same request was made on wiki (and was eventually accepted).
 * I'd just like to say it's always a pleasure to talk to somebody who is polite and calm and here for all the right reasons and therefore it has been a pleasure talking with you. My talk page is open - ping me or leave a message if you ever need anything. --kingboyk (talk) 00:28, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't touch your indentation I swear! You'll have to sort that out yourself! --kingboyk (talk) 00:31, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, don't worry, it wasn't you! I was changing my own indentation because I didn't like the way it looked. It's my talk page, so I guess I cared about the appearance of it a bit more. Thanks for the kind reply, it's always nice to talk to people who are nice. Clovermoss (talk) 00:35, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I care about indentation too, but I think we must have different personal manuals of style in this regard as I'd be wanting something more along these lines. But, as you rightly point out - your talk page = your rules! :) Cheerio! --kingboyk (talk) 00:46, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, as you're on wikibreak and might miss the ping from my talk page, just a heads up to let you know that you were right - the user has been blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet. Good work! --kingboyk (talk) 14:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

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2018 Commonwealth Games medal table
There was only one typo that was identified with the moss project, but I found and corrected four typos (in total). I don't really understand how the typo lists themselves are generated, but I thought I should let you know in case you were interested. Clovermoss (talk) 11:56, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Well spotted! It looks like the other typos were missing spaces after commas. Unlike spaces after periods, it seems these are not being detected due to inconsistent behavior by the NLTK tokenizer (which splits up articles into words). I was able to quickly make some code changes to work around that and find missing spaces after commas. I have a remedial report running now, so expect to see these reported in the main listings soon! -- Beland (talk) 20:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Out of curiousity, why was the discussion moved to my talk page? I don't mind, I'm just curious, that's all. Clovermoss (talk) 20:58, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's just a habit from before notifications were a thing, and it also clears out messages I've replied to. -- Beland (talk) 15:19, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Rollback granted
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Worrying editor
Hello. Thank you for trying with Xboxsponge15. I have had what is probably my last try at communicating with them, unless they respond to me, and I don't any longer have the time/energy to try to help much further. Also, I don't like feeling like I am piling on ... difficult to try to help, avoid damage, encourage the user without getting something out of balance. I worry that it will not end well, when I compare it with similar situations I have seen in the past. But it is nice that you are trying, and I hope that your efforts will yet bear fruit. I hate to see non-vandalistic enthusiasm and energy being, in part, wasted. Ho hum. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 07:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi . I appreciate the comment. I was just trying to be welcoming. I saw their talk page full of notices, although they also revieved an automated welcome and a link to the Teahouse. I thought that communicating with a personal message might get a reply, because all of those notices doesn't seem to have done anything. I haven't really come across a situation like this before. They've been here a few months, but haven't communicated with anyone. I'm wondering if they are even aware that their talk page exists in the first place? Or maybe they can't figure out how to reply? Or are just ignoring the notifications? I don't know. There's a lot of possibilities, and I am assuming that they want to help and are just confused about everything. As for non-vandalisitic efforts being wasted... this editor is very enthusiastic and I appreciate that, I just hope that maybe they can still be steered down the right path. Clovermoss (talk) 11:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That's it in a nutshell: we don't know what they know about communication, so if they don't engage it's really hard to get started. They are finding their way around quite well in some ways, which makes me wonder if they perhaps do know about others' attempts to communicate, but are choosing to ignore them ... but I just don't know how they are seeing Wikipedia, or the world, or anything, so it's difficult. I think that your effort was very helpful, and we will just have to hope that they either do choose to engage, or that they moderate their editing to the point where it's not annoying too many other people. My fear is that sooner or later someone will run out of patience and it will not end well. I'm glad to hear that you haven't encountered this before, and I am sad to say that I have and it hasn't usually come out well. People eventually start quoting WP:CIR and similar, and it becomes more about trying to protect the encyclopaedia than it is about helping the editor to keep going, and you end up losing them. It's very difficult, and it always involves people behaving in good faith and trying their best, but the results can be depressing. I'm going to hope they do engage with you or try the Teahouse or something. The next step, if nothing changes, might be that an admin will give them a short block, which can sometimes get people's attention, but isn't always great in its results. Thanks again and let's hope that it all works out well. Cheers DBaK (talk) 14:51, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, I just wanted to mention that I received your e-mail and have read it. Clovermoss (talk) 21:34, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Danielle Younge-Ullman


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Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 23:09, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Can I have a bit more advice on why exactly the draft failed? I have 19 references in the article, some of which give way more signifigant coverage than others, but 2 cover the convention centre specifically in-depth and in detail, and I think that these sources are reliable (specifically refs 3 and 5). The Standard, Niagara Falls Review, and Niagara This Week are all newspapers. There's a lot more coverage on events than the convention centre itself, but I tried to focus more on the convention centre where I could. There's Hockey Canada reference as well, their choice of the convention centre as a venue is signifigant.

The article can obviously be improved from here, which is why I added the category for stub status already. I thought it was a good start, and I'm kind of confused about why the draft was declined. I was going to move it to mainspace myself earlier, but the AFC template was still there from when I first started the draft, and since it's been reviewed (and did not pass) I'd like to fix what exactly is preventin gthe article from passing. Clovermoss (talk) 02:08, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , Howdy hello! Thanks for pinging me. I appreciate you showing me the best references, as oftentimes those get lost in the fray. I spot checked 4 of the refs, but all were pretty poor and thus I tagged for improvement. It felt like it had been WP:REFBOMBed, which is why I didn't give it as much attention as I should have. Thanks for understanding. I have re-reviewed it and passed it for AfC. Hopefully you keep working on it and improve it, as it looks like you could get a decent article out of it! Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:24, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Did not ping you right, . Here's the fixed ping. Clovermoss (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback and the revelant wikilink. I'll try to avoid citation overkill in the future. Clovermoss (talk) 20:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

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