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Michael Ilyinsky v. Ana Romanova
Michael Ilyinsky v. Ana Romanova Just so you are aware, this has been filed as of today: Copies to: Micheal Ilyinsky, Ana Romanova, Marie Vladimirovna, Peter Brodmann (Hohenzollern-Sigmarigen)

Harry Binkow  6:10 PM (15 minutes ago) Michael Ilyinsky , Ana Romanova , an_zakatov@mail.ru, brodmann@hohenzollern.com Dear Mr. Ilyinsky, The residence of Elizabeth of Romania was sacked and almost destroyed in 1948. All artwork, documents and personal possessions were lost. Twenty years of investigations and research have lead both Ana Romanova and I to the same response given by the House of Hohenzollerm-Sigmarigen at Sigmarigen.

Correspondence and Statement: 17 July 2013 "Second, as far as we know there was a marriage between Elisabeth of Romania and Dmitri of Russia, but there is not save information, if they had children together. It also can be that children came into the marriage from the side of Dmitri of Russia which are not direct descendants of the marriage between Elisabeth and Dmitri". - Peter Brodmann, Group Prince of Hohenzollern, Investments and Finance. Deposition: 9 June 1990 "I contacted Mother Alexandra, Abbess of The Monastery of The Transfiguration in Ellwood City, Pennsylvania USA, on the 7 March 1988. By telephone, Ileana stated that she knew who Mrs. Romanova actually was, however, she would not speak of it over the phone or by mail. Ileana told her that she must come to the Monastery with her son, Christopher. In April of 1990, Mrs. Romanova barely survived another attempt on her life. She made arrangements to see Princess Ileana. On a Saturday, the 9 June 1990, Mrs. Romanova arrived at six o'clock in the evening for her appointment. After a long church service with choir, Ana Romanova was ushered into an office. Mrs. Romanova stated to Princess Ileana, "people are trying to kill me"! "I need to know who I am and why?" Princess Ileana stated, in the presence of an Orthodox Priest, and Ana Romanova's thirteen year old son, "you are the real Romanov Princess." Ana Romanova knew of Princess Ileana her entire life. In the foster family an almost daily statement was, "It is all Princess Ileana's fault!" In this appointment, Ana Romanova walked out on the Abbess even though Princess Ileana went after her on crutches and yelled several important pieces of information".* Signatures/Witnesses (2) Sealed - Notary Public The accuracy is to the best of any one's knowledge to date. There is absolutely no deception in the above statements or any reference to deception in the biography of Dmitri Pavlovich Romanov. Some historians know of certain information, and others closer to the actual story know a bit more. Ana Romanova is proud to have Dmitri as her father and Elizabeth as her mother. Ana Romanova is of the Russian Orthodox faith. I will add that I am confident you were not well informed about your grandfather having any other children. This is actually very common among divorced persons. One must take in consideration, at this time, to place the cart behind the horse and move forward. Please be advised that the appropriate legal action you wish to file will be met with a court order for a DNA test between you and your father's half sister, Ana Romanova. This will remedy your problem and concerns with a legal and accurate solution. Ana Romanova is ready to move forward immediately. Best regards, Harry Binkow Historian, Imperial Russia Biographer for Ana Romanova ADR/HB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harry Binkow (talk • contribs) 23:42, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I wasn't originally interested in anything but the formatting of Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich of Russia, but now that I look deeper, your edit history has me somewhat concerned. Unless you can provide reliable sources (not original research) for your claims on articles such as Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich of Russia or Elisabeth of Romania, you will have to accept that your additions may be removed by other editors (no matter how much you contribute to an article, you cannot own it). Please consult Wikipedia policies on sourcing, and consider adding any disputed information to the talk pages of articles in order to foster discussion about what should be included in the article pages themselves. clpo13(talk) 04:15, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Is this your talk page? Where will I find individuals on my level of knowledge and experience? I do know approximately half of those here who are unaware of what I know due to the fact that they are librarians and do not get out very much. I am well aware of policies on sourcing. I have a MEd. in history and I am 60 years of age.  I taught students on the university level such as yourself.  I am the biographer for this lady who is 76 years of age. Her life has been extremely harsh, surviving numerous attempts on her life as well as incarceration in Buchanwald when she and Princess Mafalda of Savoy were arrested in Rome by the Gestapo. This case has thousands of documents that are not necessarily related to Elisabeth, however, I have shared her Certificate of Death, and photographs that no one has ever seen and no one has devoted their personal time and travel to obtain. I an learning how to scan them and place them here as reference.  This has become a family issue as well.  There is only one daughter of Elisabeth and Ana is it.  Princess Ileana, the half sister of Elisabeth is the woman whotold Ana Romanova who she is.  Ileana also had a difficult life and fled to the monastery where she remained for the rest of her life.  If you are educated about Orthodox monastic vows you will understand that these person(s) drop their lives completely and serve God. The evidence is what it is.  One does not erase an individuals life because of war and devastation.  The pieces are here to be evaluated.  The DNA is being posted. People go on the attack because of their lack of knowledge.  Wikipedia thus far promotes only average. The edit history is active due to other editors who do not know or have little background of Elizabeth of Romania.  I have spent 3 years corresponding with the royal houses of her family. They concur with what I have found. You may be concerned, however, the data base of history is not relevant to the number of times edits have been deleted simply for the poor knowledge of the editor. Editors are simply removing all that they personally are not aware of. You will one day comprehend more as you become educated on specific areas of history is this is what is to become your forte.  History is but a story agreed upon. Not one have you know of Ana Romanova unless you have read the published books of Lillian Hellman and viewed her movie, "Julia" (1977) which won several Academy Awards.  You are at Washington?  Ana Romanova is a Grand daughter of Marie of Romania. There is a wonderful Museum, MaryHill which has many exhibits. She is in Spokane at this time. The photographs I personally own.  What else should one identify with personal property? I am not a guru of Wikipedia.  I will place many other thing here for you to review.  No one else has taken the courtesy or professional consideration to elaborate on what type of reference(s) should be posted. There is currently, as posted above, a legal issue that will prove authenticity.  In 1948 everything was destroyed. One can not make new documents that were originally prepared.  The Nazi Regime actually forged many of them.  The only people who know the truth is the Royal Houses themselves.  They do not easily hand over secrets.  The House of Hohenzollern-Sigmarigen is the only one that wishes to provide educated statement as to the truth. I am reaching out to each and every one of those that post derogatory remarks as well.  One has called Ana Romanova a fraud with out even knowing her.  This is the negative impact for Wikipedia and the readers. This is a life's work project for a woman that just learned of her mother.  Do you understand what it is like finding this information out first hand?(75.137.7.130 (talk) 13:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC))

Owning IT
By the way. This all started last week, when I received personal correspondence from Michael Ilyinsky, a grandson of Dmitri Pavlovich. He insisted that he "owned it" with reference to the biography page here on Wiki. He demanded that I remove what I edited because he did not know about it. He also attacked the page overnight and wrote derogatory comments of "deception " on each paragraph. Can you imagine a 54 year old man still writing graffiti?

There are many "evil" people on Wikipedia, Clpo13. This is the issue. All readers would like to have the opportunity to know the truth. Would you be willing to assist in what materials I have to post? Would you review them in "talk". I am adding more files. The photograph of the Beach Reunion, 1937 at Ahlbeck is mine. I do own it. It was a gift from Ana Romanova. It clearly shows Elisabeth in the center, Dmitri on the right side with lion cub.

There is a lot of information a reader may enjoy learning. There are extensive articles in Romanian I am still translating.(75.137.7.130 (talk) 13:47, 13 November 2013 (UTC))

AWB degrades Gameplay of Pokémon maintainability
Hi Coly - How was this AWB Gameplay of Pokémon edit an improvement, please?

IMO, those in-wikicode whitespaces improved maintainability, by allowing better line-wrapping in the editor. Not irate, more puzzled.– Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 11:47, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Removing whitespace like that is AWB's default. I didn't realize those spaces had a benefit. I'll revert my changes. Sorry about that! clpo13(talk) 15:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the revert. Yes, I've seen AWB do that a lot, this was the first time I'd noticed it do purely that.  Does the whitespace-eradication feature have a switch?  I wonder if this is a bug in AWB or my coding practice %) – Ian, DjScrawl (talk) 16:37, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Removing whitespace can be turned off as an option, though I suppose it's mainly up to the user of AWB to make sure that the changes they make are constructive. The AWB guidelines are to avoid making changes if they don't affect the rendering of the page. Spaces in wikicode apparently don't mess with the rendering. I'm new to it, so I'm still getting the hang of what changes it makes. clpo13(talk) 22:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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rosie o'donnell
hello, I am gravy059, everything that was put in by me is true. there are new library of congress subject heading based strictly on my book. all my documentation is in book reprinted, from New Jersey open public records. she work and funded that adoption agency, she stated to larry king that she actually worked at that baby selling company. people should know, is this not what Wikepedia is all about? please reinstall my pieces please. it said error ,but I am computer illiterate and don't know what a tag from a htl number or whatever it is,   thank u  CLPO13  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gravy059 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

ROSIE O'DONNELL
Dear Sir, yes you made a mistake I have every piece of proof as back up for everything I say and write about Rosie, you say you want to her bio accurate, but it is Wikepedia who is keeping an innacurarte page. hell, what is it about this site that would hide lies, deceit, and do it in covert way?Gravy059 (talk) 18:21, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Please, please read the policies we have on biographies of living people, reliable sources, and verifiability. We have these policies in place for a reason. No one (to my knowledge) is covering anything up, but we can't have information added to biographies without that information being clearly and concisely sourced (this is to avoid legal issues from the subjects of those biographies, which is something that Wikipedia has dealt with before). That means following the guidelines regarding inline citations, including page numbers for book references so that readers can verify that the information is accurate. For especially controversial information, multiple sources are preferred. So far, you've simply linked to the Library of Congress search page. That's not enough, I'm afraid. A proper citation would be as follows (don't use this reference; it's only an example):

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 * Again, please read through the policy pages and consider asking for help by placing on your talk page with your question below it. Alternately, post at the Teahouse (for new editors), help desk (for help on how to edit Wikipedia), or reference desk (for help in gathering information). clpo13(talk) 18:46, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * hello, im sorry about all the trouble I just went to teahouse and spent an hour asking a question - no save page - now lost forever, that why im back here, sorry. I guess im just too computer illiterate to get my facts on rosies page. any takers? somewhere in cyber space is the following again... I would pay, donate, thru paypal to get my info abroad, its all true. I cant do it, fact, my name is david archuletta, my book is the one used by your example, same correct isbn, fact, it is the library of congress authorities and vocabulary subject heading for two workcat. [meaning this book got the ball rolling, I asked them.]
 * it is also at a few ivy league colleges and worldcat, goodreads, it has all factuaul concerns about rosie o'donnells involvement with 'Children of World Adgption Agency, I have, thru larry king live, in my book have refered to her as quoting, statements she worked and funded this agency, my book also references her adoption attorney, [I wont name him here - for now]... ... as for the things I want to see on her page is the simple fact that she indeed work and fund and make a quote about 100,000 dollar kids. this can be traced by documentating her comments to larry king live, excerpts from my book, [who would be responsible, if the library of congress took my book for truth? they would right? Larry king got his from the horses mouth, she said these things on cnn transscripts, that is where I got my info, the horses mouth... why would she sue your company for something the venerable Thomas Jefferson would highly tout as true if it be in his house so to speak. rosie would have to go thru first, larry king and cnn, and me along with the library of congress catalog, library of congress subject heading division, and the authorities and vocabularies division. how can saying and proving rosie O'Donnell saids these things hurt me. I wish she'd try. there is reason she don't= Children of the world adoption agency quit by corporate suicide, why because I proved its executive director, [id say her name, but anybody can google my name with children of the world, and they would find pages of pages of my saying this or that about rosie and her "Jersey Rules" attorney and this vile woman, A woman who still keeps adoption records in her own basement lest to forget not teaches our kids and threw away a tenured carreer in sociology. .Gravy059 (talk) 09:13, 3 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry the Teahouse didn't work out for you. The best advice that I can offer is to put a concise reference to pages in your book that refer to Rosie O'Donnell's affiliation with Children of the World on her article, following the guidelines on inline citations (specifically, place  after the content you're providing a source for). Your changes have been removed in the past because they were improperly cited, and controversial information on biographies of living people can be challenged and removed if not sourced. However, be aware that even if properly cited, someone might object to the information on the grounds of undue weight or, in your case, conflict of interest, considering that the sole source of this information is a book you wrote (finding other, unrelated sources would mitigate this). However, that alone does not necessarily indicate a conflict of interest, considering that your book is not self-published and you are writing about a subject that you have (presumably) done extensive research on for your book (for basic guidelines on what constitutes a conflict of interest on Wikipedia, see Plain and simple conflict of interest guide). If someone does challenge or remove the information after it's been properly cited, don't revert (as that can be considered edit warring and can lead to being temporarily blocked from editing). Instead, bring the issue up under a new section on the talk page of the article, laying out your reasons for why you believe the information is important enough for inclusion in her article and what sources you have to back up your claims. Be ready to answer any objections in a clear and concise manner and try to come to a consensus about what to include on the main article page. If you have any other questions about Wikipedia procedure or policy, place   on your talk page, followed by your question. I hope this helps. clpo13(talk) 16:49, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Castle in Antwerp
Thanks for the thanks re: Couwelaar Castle! But please don't do it that way again - translating with Google and then reporting it at WP:Pages needing translation into English. A badly translated (inaccurate or unreadable) article is worse than none, and it's hard to tell whether you've been inaccurate if you can't read the original (for example, this time Google did its usual thing of omitting bits of sentences). Instead, please do as it says at WP:Translation; either request a translation or make a stub and put an "Expand from X language" tag on it. It's a cute castle - I hope I can find some references to add. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:45, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. I will definitely go about it properly in the future. clpo13(talk) 01:49, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * You're welcome, I'm glad you learned something new. Don't worry about the notability thing, though. When I added the orphan tag, I added that one by mistake. clpo13(talk) 15:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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I created the wrong redirect, it should be just " #redirect Maybach Music Latino" without the word "group". That is the original page.--&#9790;Loriendrew&#9789; &#9743;(talk)  06:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I just figured that out. :( Guess I need to fix all those redirects. clpo13(talk) 06:47, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Remind me to never do mass redirects from a tablet. I miss my mouse already. Sorry for my initial error, I found the original page in the middle of the mess that new editor made.--&#9790;Loriendrew&#9789; &#9743;(talk)  06:55, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Clpo13-

I appreciate all the help with the Jean Schensul page, which is for a final class assignment. I do not have any experience with Wikipedia, so thank you for the helpful links- I've been following them to the best of my ability, but I have absolutely no experience with formatting anything more complex than a word document.

If you could be so kind, could you tell me more about the messages you left on the article? I'm not looking to get them taken away today or anything, but what is the process that needs to happen for them to eventually be lifted? My assignment is now complete, but I'd like to learn a little bit more so I can keep an eye on this page, and much of the wikipedia articles about writing wiki articles are not the most clear.

Please, if you don't mind, message me back on my talk page. Again, I appreciate all the help you've been and hope I didn't make too much extra work for you.

Sailshire (talk) 00:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much.

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