User talk:Cmartlover

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Hello, Cmartlover, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Adam and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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Message
Hi Charlotte, I'm just sending you a message back on your user talk page--Maxsiskind (talk) 03:53, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Feedback on draft
Hi, Cmartlover. I took a look at your draft changes to Frances Inglis and I'm impressed. You've got a good idea of the tone and style of a Wikipedia article down. I have two suggestions, one of which is (sort of) optional: I hope this helps. Leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions or need a hand with anything. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:17, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * One of your sources, American Eyes: Negotiation and Culture in Nineteenth-Century Travel Narratives in the Americas, is a PhD dissertation. Wikipedia's guidance (see the 3rd paragraph) is to cite dissertations as primary sources and to discourage their use generally. I don't know if this is a critical source for you, but I'd recommend you see if you can't replace it with different sources.
 * The section on her book, Life in Mexico is well done but may be too long for this article. I think you've got enough material here to start an article on the book itself and then summarize that article for the section in this one. Does that make sense? Like I said above, this one is optional, because I realize creating another article w/ a different format could be a lot of work.

Hi, Cmartlover. I see you've updated the source, thank you! Did you give any thought to my second comment? Feel free to reply here or on my talk page. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:16, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Dear, Adam I have thought about your second comment, but I am unsure about how to proceed. On the one hand, I feel that the Life In Mexico section contains important information from my research, and I'm not sure how much I need to cut it down in order to make it acceptable for this article. I tried to insert more section headings to make it more readable (even though it is still long), but I'm hesitant to shorten it. I think creating a new article might be too much work, so I suppose I need to cut it down. But I don't know how much needs to go because a lot of it is significant. --Cmartlover (talk) 17:59, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think it needs to be cut down. But a wikipedia article about a person (even someone mostly famous for one work) can't be too focused on something that isn't the person, otherwise it might be natural for a critical reader to ask why the work doesn't have an article rather than the person. I think right now you don't need to worry about it too much. you've done a good job on the article and as I mentioned it's more of something to aim for than an explicit need. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:28, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear Adam,

I didn't get your message until just now, so I ended up creating a separate article for Life in Mexico and summarizing it in the Frances Erksine Inglis article. Most of the details on Life in Mexico from the original I just copied and pasted into the new one, then I went through it and summarized the information for the original. --Cmartlover (talk) 23:58, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You've done an excellent job! It's great that we have both articles now. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:21, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
 * One last bit and these articles would be perfect. If you look at well developed wikipedia articles, you'll see good, context specific links used to other articles in an attempt to integrate everything into a web of content. See e.g. George Mason--don't worry about the structure or anything, just the links. Wikilinks can also help you summarize certain elements for the audience or even give them a place to go if they figure they've read enough about the topic. That's part of what makes reading Wikipedia so dangerous, slipping into link after link. :) Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:04, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Peer Review
Hey Charlotte, I took a look at your draft and it looks great to me. The only thing I did was make a few minor grammatical edits (commas, etc.). My only other suggestion would be that if you have time, maybe the later life section could be expanded because it seems a little lacking compared to the others. Otherwise, nice work! Also, because my topic could also be enhanced by someone doing more translation work, how did you put that header at the top of your article? I would like to do the same to mine if possible, thanks.

Maxsiskind (talk) 01:26, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Max! Did you look at the Life in Mexico article too? You can put the translation header on your article with these templates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Expand_by_language_Wikipedia_templates

Cmartlover (talk) 02:04, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey Charlotte, I read both of your articles and just WOW you did amazing work. Like Max said the later life section needs a little more info if you can find it. Also in the Life in Mexico article your tenses I'm not sure if it should be in the present tense that you have it in or in the past. Other than that just really great work.Pcooperterpmail (talk) 03:38, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Charlotte I'm blown away. Amazing work, I cant think of any suggestions. Thomas Erickson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Terick34 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 28 April 2016 (UTC)