User talk:Cmglee/archive2013

River Alde map
Thanks for adding this to the commons and to the River Alde article. It's great - and really interesting, as a local, to be able to pick out Iken church for example! I'll probably use it in a couple of other articles for the area that I'm considering working up fairly soon.

You might want to note that there's a public domain flag on the Commons that you might need to address for the image. Images always scare me so I'm not entirely sure what the flag is...

Btw, if you have a moment could you look at the River Ore article. I was considering combining the Alde and Ore in one article - I'd value any thoughts you might have on this. Thanks again for the map. Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That was quick! My pleasure, Blue Square Thing &mdash; I'm glad you found the map useful. I've updated the licence to which I think fits better. I'll have a look at Ore, though I'm not particularly familiar with it. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 19:35, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * P.S. On reading River Ore, I've come to realise that it's effectively the same river as River Alde. Therefore, I agree on a merge, leaving a Redirect from River Ore. I've proposed a merge there, so please support it if you like. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 19:56, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ta - I've tidied the merge stuff up a little and made a formal proposal. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

An earlier effort of yours
Template:Volcanic Eruption Map (renamed from something .svg): While the work is appreciated, it was a wee bit broken. I'm going to adjust this template a bit, add some vars. Good work on the scaling, though. Can't believe I didn't see that until today. Res Mar 01:36, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Since you seem to be an image specialist, have you looked at the following script: User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit.js? Imagemaps seem precisely up your alley. And one more thing: I made a request at the workshop a while ago that has since gone stale, think you can handle it? Res Mar 01:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * &one more thing, the Merapi event was in 2010, not 2011, so that needs correcting. I would do that myself but you have some wonky root protection on the image and I don't know how to ungroup the objects through it. Say, how *did* you do that? Res Mar 02:53, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for creating the image map and notifying me about the mistake, Res Mar . I've fixed Merapi's year, but I'm unsure by what you mean by "root protection" &mdash; I create the SVGs by hand in a text editor, so perhaps Inkscape or another graphics editor doesn't like the formatting. Converting a bitmap to SVG is very difficult by hand, so I've to leave the task to someone more familiar with Inkscape etc. Though WIkipedia prefers SVGs, I think the GIF is fine (I can convert it to PNG if needed) especially since the USGS is a public domain source. I'm unfamiliar with image maps, so can you tell me how to use ImageMapEdit.js? cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 03:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a tool that loads onto the page whenever you end up at an image. It adds a button below the image that lets you map coordinates, assign links, and etc. for imagemaps. I tuned Template:Volcanic Eruption Map using it, for instance, and I think you would find it handy given that you're a technical graphic contributor. Just looking at your talk page it would be useful for File:Moon landing sites.svg and File:Comparison of highest mountains.svg As for the map, that would explain it, I don't have experience with Inkscape's raw XML editor (or, really, raw XML, yeah, I know). The low quality of the GIF bothers me, is the problem. I looked through your image credits and really, I'm impressed, so here have one of these:


 * addendum: I took a stab at converting the graphic, this is the result. Res Mar 19:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Barnstar, ResMar. I'll keep User:Dapete/ImageMapEdit.js in mind for relevant images. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 15:01, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Lagrangian_points_equipotential.gif
$$ \Psi(x,y,z) = \left( { x-\frac{q}{1+q} } \right)^2 + y^2 + \frac{2}{ (1+q) \sqrt {x^2+y^2+z^2} } + \frac{2q}{(1+q) \sqrt { (x-1)^2+y^2+z^2 } }$$

File:2013 Lahad Datu standoff.svg
Hi, I think that the map needs to be modified. Mindanao can be regarded as a province in the illustration and Zamboanga is its capital. What I can suggest is we change the font size of Mindanao as well as Zamboanga's, and adding Bongao as the capital in addition with the existing Simunul marker. If I may add, Sipadan is irrelevant to the ongoing conflict in Sabah as this pertains only to the 2000 Kidnapping incident in which Kirams or the Malaysian government is not a part of it. Thanks! adkranz (talk) 02:05, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback, Adkranz.


 * 1) I'm unsure what you meant by the first part. Do you mean that Zamboanga is incorrectly indicated as the capital of Mindanao? I've updated the markers to show that it is a city but not the capital.
 * 2) Tawi Tawi is already too crammed to fit a Bongao marker. Besides, it's not mentioned in the article.
 * 3) I think the 2000 kidnapping is wholly relevant as it's another "terrorist" (for lack of a better term) incident by another militant group in the vicinity. I've made the font smaller to deemphasise it.
 * cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 12:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, don't forget to update your map on ms wiki. ;) &mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 16:52, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Maximum Range of North Korean Missiles
http://en.rian.ru/infographics/20130408/180512410/Maximum-Range-of-North-Korean-Missiles.html thanks for your work Lettres (talk) 20:43, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Lettres. That's a nice infographic. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 21:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

State election results template

 * Regarding the extra column in the Template:Malaysian general election state results, 2013, I don't see it as necessary. We already have the number of seats in Barisan, Pakatan and Independents and their variances, including the totals. Can you explain by what you mean when you say changes in the number of seats for each state?  There hasn't been any changes in the number of seats in states for the past 10 years or the introduction of new state seats.  This procedure I believe is only done every 10 years due to population changes in the country.Lazybugger13 (talk) 07:41, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Lazybugger13, if you look at the +/- columns for Kedah and Selangor, the sum of all the parties' values is not zero (e.g. Selangor has BN losing 9 and PR gaining 10, implying that one new seat has been created). Since you wrote, "There hasn't been any changes in the number of seats in states for the past 10 years or the introduction of new state seats," does that imply that the numbers in the table are wrong? cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 21:08, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi guys, sorry for interjecting your conversation, but allow me to clarify a few things on this topic. Indeed, there's no change in state assembly seats between 2008 and 2013. However, there could be changes within that period like by-elections and passing of an assemblyman, which is reflected in List of State Seats Representatives in Malaysia (before GE13). If you refer to that article for the changes in seats, you might find that the figures don't add up properly, as in the Selangor example.
 * Vacant seats should not be considered "missing" in 2008 results and "added back" in 2013. Still, it's not clear whether you want to base the changes on the 2008 elected results, or up to the point before GE13, including by-elections and changes of allegiance. Hytar (talk) 21:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi cmglee, actually when I started the summary table I was basing it from the List of State Seats Representatives in Malaysia, whereby for example Selangor has 56 seats. There hasn't been any new seat created in Selangor since the the 2008 general elections.  Going through the Selangor list again, BN has 21 seats, DAP has 12 seats, PKR has 14 seats and PAS has 8 seats (this gives PR 34 in total) and one vacant seat(due to the passing of assemblyman Edward Lee from DAP on December 2011). Now BN won 12 seats (meaning they lost 9 seats), PR won 44 seats (meaning they won 10 seats, including the vacant seat). Now regarding Kedah, we got BN at 14 seats, DAP 1 seat, PKR 2 seats, PAS 16 seats(This gives PR 19 seats in total) and 2 independents.  The recent election saw BN winning 21 seats (gain of 7 seats, meaning they scooped up both the independent seats too and 4 PR seats) and PR gaining 15 seats (lost of 4 seats).   So in a way the table is correct and those need an extra column on seat variances next to the total.  As Hytar mentioned we are looking at basing the changes up to the point before the GE13 taking into account, by-elections and changes of allegiances.Lazybugger13 (talk) 08:29, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * My apologies regarding the previous post regarding Kedah. In actual fact let's summarise the Kedah list again.  I shouldn't have taken the list at face value without checking it thoroughly.  BN has 14 seats, DAP 1 seat, PKR 4 seats, PAS 16 seats (this gives PR 21 seats) and 1 independent  This gives us 36 seats in total. Recently BN won 21 seats (a gain of 7 seats) and PR has won 15 seats (a lost of 6 seats) and the independent lost his seat.  So in actual fact the table has to be tweaked with new corrections.Lazybugger13 (talk) 08:49, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the detailed analysis, Lazybugger13. In that case, I agree with you that the +/- column in the table is redundant. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 11:07, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

File:Symmetrical_5-set_Venn_diagram.svg
Do you still have the code you used to generate the 5 way Venn diagram? I would like to know the center of the ellipsis; hence I'm asking. Thank you. Carstensen (talk) 11:00 am, 16 April 2013, Tuesday (1 month, 30 days ago) (UTC+1)
 * Hi, Carstensen. I've just seen your message as I'm notified when someone edits my user talk page but not my user page, so please drop me a message at my user talk page in the future. To answer your question, the code is in the SVG itself (that's the beauty of SVG). This is the relevant part:

<ellipse id="ellipse" cx="36" cy="-56" rx="160" ry="320" />
 * i.e. if the centre of rotation is at (0, 0), and ellipse A's major semi-axis is 320 and minor semi-axis is 160, its centre is at (36, -56). Hope that's useful! cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 23:36, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Great stuff! Thank you! I did it in gnuplot already. You live in Cambridge, UK? So do I. Carstensen (talk) 23:52, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That's great! If you'd like to meet other Wikipedia editors nearby, do come to Cambridge_University_Wikipedia_Society/May_Week_2013. See you around, cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 14:06, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

TemplateData is here
Hey Cmglee

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:08, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

File:Comparison International Standard Atmosphere space diving.svg
It seems unbalanced to show three of Baumgartner's jump but only one of Kittinger's which were at about the same altitudes. Rmhermen (talk) 19:00, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's a fair point, Rmhermen. I've updated the graphic as on the right, though there's a little bug with the SVG renderer (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Graphics_village_pump#Truncated_quadratic_Bezier_in_rendered_SVG). cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 18:23, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

ACRE SIZE COMPARISON
Nice graph. When you get the time, would it be possible to add the unit of the "perch" (sq. rod) to the chart? As the acre is defined as 4x40 of these originally, it is a more important unit than the square chain to have a comparison.

Also, the rood, quarter acre is also used for subdivisions that don't simply decimalize acres for sale. In Sri Lanka, Jamaica, and at one time in all countries that used acres for land, deed descriptions were broken down ACRE, ROOD, PERCH.

In any case, this is a great visualization. Thanks for adding it! Surveyor792 (talk) 23:20, 11 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the constructive feedback, Surveyor792. I've updated the graphic and uploaded it as Comparison_land_area_units.svg as on the left. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 12:44, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Million Award
Hi Cmglee,

In a few days I'm going to be starting a new Wikipedia award that I'm tentatively calling the Million Award. You can read details about it at User:Khazar2/Million, but the basic idea is to reward editors who bring a particularly high traffic article to GA or FA to encourage work on our most-read articles.

The biggest problem I've run into is creating an image. I have zero skill in graphic design, and a "million" is hard to represent in userbox size. I was toying with the idea of adapting your visualization of 1 million in some way--perhaps as simple as this--but it occurred to me that I might ask you for help directly. Would you have any interest in helping with a graphic or graphics for this award?

Since this is for user pages only, it doesn't need anything fancy; anything you'd be willing to slap together would be a huge help. The only trick is that it has to look good at 42px or so in order to go into a userboxes as well as a barnstar, or have some variation that can be reduced to 42px. Eventually, I hope to make separate images for the three different tiers of the award (Quarter Million, Half Million, and Million), but any image will do to get the ball rolling.

What do you think? If there's any way we could work out a labor trade, I'm always up for copyediting, reviewing, etc. In any case, thanks for all your terrific image work--I really enjoyed looking over your userpage, especially the peripheral drift illusion. -- Khazar2 (talk) 05:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Good initiative, Khazar2. I'd be glad to help. this is a red link, though. What did you have in mind? cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 11:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. The correct link is here. You can see a very early draft of how it might look here, though I'm still playing with formatting, colors, etc. Feel free to start from scratch, though, if it's easier--I really appreciate the help. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I had a look at your work with Wikipedia and am really impressed with what I saw! I've thought a bit about the idea of 3 intersecting planes of cyan, magenta and yellow (representing "articles" in the traditional printing sense) forming a unit cube in the middle. I'll draw something up later today — I'll let you know... cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 12:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! I'll look forward to seeing it. Feel free to add them to the sandbox draft directly if you like. -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Here you go... and good luck with the Million Award proposal!
 * I'll let you know if/when I need any help with Wikipedia :) cm&#610;&#671;ee&#2927;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#160;&#814;&#1583;&#8202;&#865;&#176;&#8201;&#2669; 18:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to say thanks again for this. The rollout's been a big success, and a number of editors specifically praised your design. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 11:40, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Comparison area units.svg
A discussion at Talk:Acre points out that Comparison area units.svg has a "detailed view" link that does not work. I can't work out what was intended, so please have a look. Johnuniq (talk) 23:20, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Use of a Photo
Hi Cmglee I would like to use your photo of the Napp building in Cambridge Science Park on the website of a new Cambridge membership organisation promoting Cambridge. The image is at the top right of the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Science_Park

Can you please let me know your usage terms? Is a credit sufficient and if so can you please tell me what name etc to include. Please email me.

Thanks, mcsorg (email is richard at mcs-organisation.com) Mcsorg (talk) 18:00, 3 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Mcsorg,


 * Certainly, feel free to use it under the standard Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported terms: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en . I'd appreciate if you could link back to my user page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee . Just out of curiosity, could you please tell me the website address of your organisation?


 * Cheers, cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 23:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Cmglee I'll check the licence conditions. Can't show you the design site but the holding page is www.cambridgeahead.co.uk It'll be difficult to put a link on the home page banner to your user page as the image will be hyperlinked to another internal page. Need to put line 'Image courtesy of CMglee' underneath the image and hyperlink your username. Would that be acceptable? Also I may be in touch re other images you have done. It would really good to get your email address - please email me? RF 86.138.8.29 (talk) 23:40, 3 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi again, Mcsorg. OK, that's fine. Shall we communicate by user talk page for now? Thanks, cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 23:11, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi again cmglee Is there any chance of us getting a super high res copy of the image we really like i.e. 800px-Cambridge_Science_Park_Napp because our designer has designed a pop up banner stand using it but I've had to tell him I don't have a big enough image. But we really like it - can you provide and what are the crediting arrangements if we use it? Happy to put a credit line under it but also happy to pay within reason. Our artwork deadline is tomorrow :( so I'd appreciate a quick response. Sorry for all this. If you can please do email me richard at mcs-organisation.com but I understand your preference. RF 13:57, 11 November 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcsorg (talk • contribs)
 * Hi, Could you please clarify which NAPP image it is? Please reply with the filename here. cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 20:52, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes the file is 800px-Cambridge_Science_Park_Napp and is located at at the top right of the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Science_Park. Thanks RF Mcsorg (talk) 13:57, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I just found out that I've lost the original in a hard drive crash a few years ago. This is the best I have now:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Cambridge_Science_Park_Napp.jpg
 * OK, just the line "Image courtesy of CMGLEE" and hyperlink CMGLEE to http://wikipedia.org/wiki/user:cmglee is sufficient. Thanks and good luck on your endeavour! cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 22:14, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Comparison of pyramids.svg
Hi! I am interested to know why the Etemenanki is left out of your very nice graphic comparison of pyramids? Is the reason that you only include still existing pyramids? I personally think it could be included because it was big (91 meters high), is a step pyramid comparable to the Mayan ones (like Chichen Itza) and it has a great historical significance (tower of babel). What do you think? ;-)

Greetings -- Weapon X (talk, contribs) 01:43, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Weapon X. To be honest, it was a simply a case of not being aware of Etemenanki before you told me about it. It certainly has a very interesting history. Nevertheless, I'm not sure about including it because:
 * It no longer exists, as you noted.
 * The graphic is already pretty crowded.
 * Any thoughts? cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 23:38, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that it no longer exist is a good reason for not including it! But I personally would much more love to see it included then the three biggest "pyramids" (Ryuyong Hotel, The Shard, Transamerica Pyramid) because they all are just present day skyscrapers who are mimicking a pyramid but aren't exactly one (same counts for the Burj Khalifa which looks like a kind of step pyramid.) On top of that these three biggest pyramids squash the other pyramids in the lower part of the graphic which makes it more difficult to view.
 * What about one graphic of still existing pyramids (in their nowadays height) and one with historical pyramids with their original height and shape (including Etemenanki and Pyramid of Djedefre)? Just a though... -- Weapon X (talk, contribs) [[Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg|25px|Germany]] 17:31, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That's a good idea, Weapon X. Would you be willing to make a start? You can just take my image and remove the modern ones — each has its own SVG group — and add the 2 new ones. Alternatively, if you can draw their silhouettes at a scale of 1 SVG unit/metre and either upload the SVG or paste the code below, I can include them and remove the modern ones this weekend. Cheers, cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 20:12, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi cmglee, sorry it took so long for me to anwer... Unfortunately I am in no way familiar with SVG graphics yet. But it would be an interesting way to get familiar with it (if I ever find the time for it... could take month ;-D). -- Weapon X (talk, contribs) [[Image:Flag_of_Germany.svg|25px|Germany]] 14:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No worries, Weapon X. Writing raw SVG (like HTML) can be very tedious compared to using a visual editor but one has great control over the output, and one can write scripts in assorted languages (I use Perl mostly) to automate its production, which makes it quite powerful for visualising data e.g. graphs. Let me or editors at the Commons Graphics Village Pump know if you need any help with it! cm&#610;&#671;ee&#9094;&#964;a&#671;&#954; 20:19, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

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