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Intentional links to DAB pages
I've seen a few of your edits removing the "(disambiguation)" from intentional links to DAB pages. While avoiding double redirects is usually a good idea, in the case of disambiguation pages the community has adopted the standard at WP:DABINT, including the "(disambiguation)" descriptor, even if the DAB page does not use it in its name. Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:56, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, interesting. Thanks for the info - I wasn't aware of that rule, and to be honest can't even remember making those changes. Seems a bit of an arcane rule to me, but I'll try to remember it in future. Cnbrb (talk) 19:08, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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Gorton Monastery
Thank you for your edits to the above. Much appreciated. I think it would be better to remove the main-text paragraph on E.T. Spashett, though, because its citation is itself sourced from Wikipedia. I have found from experience that you can put that sort of information in the form of a note (which I have already done in the article), but not in the main text, unless another third-party citation can be found.

If you are connected with the monastery, please could you kindly let me know whether the cloister gate still exists? I have a set of my own photographs of Gorton Monastery from the renovation period around or just before 2012, which includes the gate. It is a modern wrought-iron gate roughly 6ft x 3.5ft with wording included in it. The last time I saw the gate, in 2012, it was in the cloister, but not attached to its hinges. I was told that the gate would be preserved. I intend to upload the pictures in due course, but if you would like them uploaded urgently, I can do this for you. Storye book (talk) 14:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi - thanks for getting in touch. So refreshing to actually have a conversation on Wikipedia! Yes, I take the point on the citation for Spashett - I was hesitant about the reference, but I put it in anyway. I'll try to find a more reliable source for that. I should have more general bits to contribute in the next coupe of days.
 * I'm not connected with the monastery - just a passing interest. I don't remember the gate you describe. There is a gate onto Gorton Lane on the left edge of this photo.
 * I look forward to seeing any pre-renovation photos you can upload, but it's not urgent. Cnbrb (talk) 17:32, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply. I checked the Commons category again, and in fact I had uploaded a photo of the gate, here. If you zoom in on it, you can see that it says St Francis Priory Gorton. It was the only unadulterated or undamaged bit of Spashett's work remaining. The Gorton photos are on my to-do list, and I hope to upload them within a month. It shows the interior as very much a work in progress, plus some exterior pictures. The story of that job was interesting. Spashett was a Baptist who was or had been working as consultant for the Benedictines with Basil Hume as client before he became cardinal. The prior of Gorton would never speak to Spashett; whether that was a political stance or a religious one was never made clear by the prior. That was the same prior who knew Myra Hindley very well, although apparently she was afraid of his severe disapproval of her. But he nevertheless spoke to her as part of his congregation. Due to the prior's stance, Spashett had great difficulty in obtaining an architectural brief from him via other brothers of the monastery. We do not have published citations for this, but I have written it here in case you are interested, as it is part of the history of the monastery nevertheless. Storye book (talk) 20:53, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Fascinating story!! Thank you for telling me about it. What a rich tapestry in Gorton..... Cnbrb (talk) 21:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Just letting you know that I have just uploaded my 2006 photos of the restoration works at the monastery (here). Please accept my apologies for the poor quality of many of the photographs - I had not long had my first camera (late in life), and you can tell. The people I met there on that day were hard-working, dedicated, and had done a lot of research. They were broken-hearted at the damage previously wrought in the building. I don't know who made that hole in the wall, but i'm guessing it was the developer who had it before. I would love to know whether that carved monk's head is still there - the one in the very blurry picture. I hope you find something of interest in the 2006 set. Storye book (talk) 11:50, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you - these are really fascinating! Yes, some are better than others but it's a valuable contribution. Cnbrb (talk) 12:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 29 November 2021 (UTC)