User talk:Co2clean

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Are you employed by Applied Surface Technologies, or another company in the CO2 cleaning industry? — swpb T 16:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

yes, I am. if you look at the edits, they are informative, non commercial. How do I answer your question. I try hard to be non commerical, and the overall article I think was created by a manufacturer and they did well too.

By the way, there are scientific errors on the page too, i will try to correct a few when time permits, i just want to get one thing fixed today. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Co2clean (talk • contribs)


 * Yes, the edits you've made are neutral and uncontroversial. However, Wikipedia is quite strict when it comes to conflicts of interest. In general, it's strongly discouraged to edit articles on topics in which you have a financial interest, even if your edits are uncontroversial. If you do decide to edit the page further, you must declare your COI on the article's talk page, and preferably on your user page as well. However, it would be better to suggest edits on the article talk page for other editors to evaluate, rather than edit the article directly yourself.


 * Also, Wikipedia has a policy against usernames that represent specific companies; if you want to continue editing, you should change your username.


 * And a small note—please sign your messages on talk pages with four tildes (~) . This will automatically be replaced with your username and the timestamp. — swpb T 17:51, 24 May 2016

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Why do i get 5 emails from you for one message?Co2clean (talk) 18:14, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Co2clean (talk) 18:11, 24 May 2016 (UTC)CO2clean thank you for taking time to help me.

There are many technical issues on that page and I wonder if i can edit it to correct misconceptions and also to add more information on the 4 cleaning processes (I am only involved with 1 of the 4). There are incorrect statements and holes in the descriptions. I think a section introducing the 4 methods would be good and how they differ and relate it to the phase diagram.

Being older, I have problems finding things and how to do things right. I chose the user name cause my real name was taken, maybe by me years ago. My user name is my web page name, not the company name. Is that a problem? I can change it but i have to find the link to do that.

How do I declare my COI in the edits? And where is the talk page, i saw it once. I do not have a user page. Where do i do one? I doubt there are many editors on this page. I think the person who created it and myself are the only two and I think I know the other editor is from a company called ACP or Cold Jet, both have the same COI issues. I do not object speaking with the page creator to make the page better. The cleaning topic here is obscure, highly specialized and not common. Though I am not an academic, i hold myself as the scientist in the field.

By the way, in my scientific publications, i have always tried to avoid commercialization, as my papers are in peer reviews journals or are chapters in books, all edited and cleared by third parties. Robert Sherman


 * If your username is not a company name, it may be ok; my concern is that it is the URL used by AST. If you receive complaints about it, you can request a new username by the process described here, or you can simply create a new account (though it will not allow you to keep your contribution history).


 * Talk pages are just article titles preceded by "Talk:", e.g., for the snow cleaning article, the talk page is at Talk:Carbon dioxide cleaning. Your user page is at User:Co2clean (it doesn't exist right now); this is your personal talk page. To declare your conflict, put the template on the talk page of any articles where you have a conflict. For your userpage, you can use the template , replacing parameters 1, 2, etc. with the titles of articles you edit where you have a conflict.


 * As it turns out, I created the article back in August (you can see the full history of edits by clicking "View History" at the top of any article). I am not affiliated with the industry or the technology, so I'm not surprised to learn there are gaps or errors, and I'd be grateful for improvements. Since you seem well-intentioned and aware of how COI's work, if you make the necessary declarations, I don't think it will be a problem for you to edit the article directly.


 * If you have any other questions about editing, you can message me on my talk page, User talk:Swpb, or on the article's talk page. — swpb T 18:39, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Swpd

I am impressed at the volume of pages you created. And I will try to follow the rules you posted above. Since you created the page, i can run changes past you first. However, that will take a back seat for a few days so i can go onto other tasks, work related. I am unsure how to post the COI item, does it go on the talk page or in the article?, but i will ask when doing the next round of edits. When it comes to peer reviewed technical references, I am the main source. In the business world, scientific publications are frowned upon since they take time away from the basic task. In the recent review article i did, lots of conference proceedings were used (not mine) to give balance to all workers in the field, but these are not peered reviewed. That chapter is copywrite protected and I can't give a functioning link.

I do not understand this at all To declare your conflict, put the template on the talk page of any articles where you have a conflict. For your userpage, you can use the template, replacing parameters 1, 2, etc. with the titles of articles you edit where you have a conflict. Co2clean (talk)co2clean


 * So, the declaration should go on the talk page, not on the article itself. To use the templates, just copy and paste them (the curly braces and everything in between) when you edit the page where they belong. The text after the pipes ("|") are parameters; they are used to customize templates. In this case, the parameters will add a link from the article talk page to your userpage, and vice versa, so that anyone who wants to look into your edits can easily find them, or, going the other way, find you. If you want to know more about these particular templates, you can follow the blue links to documentation pages, but it's not necessary to understand them in depth. — swpb T 19:03, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

co2clean: As i said the page has errors. Here is a new version of the first paragraph Carbon dioxide cleaning (CO2 cleaning) refers to several different methods for parts cleaning, and each CO2 phase plays a role [1]. The basic method include solid dry ice pellets, liquid CO2, CO2 snow (a hybrid method), and supercritical CO2. The different forms of CO2 cleaning can clean many types of objects, from large generators to small delicate parts[2][3][4]:275. CO2 cleaning has found application in many industries, including aerospace, automotive, electronics, medical, manufacturing of all kinds, basic and applied research, optics, and many other industries and technical areas.[5][6] Searching the patent and technical literature can give an idea of the scope of applications. The different carbon dioxide cleaning methods can remove gross contamination, paint, over layers, grease, fingerprints, particles of all sizes (down to nanometers), hydrocarbon and organic residues, even radioactive residues. Materials cleaned include metals, polymers, ceramics, glasses, wafers, hard drives, optics, and many other surfaces.[4]:270. The key step is that the contamination must be on the surface, not buried within the material.

I may have sent this by accident to a Stephen Philbrick, is this you? If the above is not a COI problem, then i can edit it. I will try to have changes go though you to avoid COI conflicts. References need fixing, and i can justify each reference and statment if you wish. I think reference 4 should be replaced with a 2016 publication. I am the author of both old reference 4 and the 2016 chapter.

Thank you. PS I appreciate the concern over COI issues.


 * Hi Robert. I'm not User:Sphilbrick, but it looks like he took care of adding the first part to the article for you, and I've now added the second part, with some small changes: first, I added links to other relevant articles, and second, I did some copy-editing for brevity (in the construction "many x, including a, b, c, and others", the "and others" is redundant). I took out your sentence about searching patent and technical literature; we ought to explicitly cite any literature we use to support the scope of applications. (Particularly relevant literature that we don't cite in the text can be listed in a "Further reading" section, but we need to be judicious about what and how many items we list there.)


 * As for updating references, I would say go ahead; just be sure you post those COI declarations I showed you before you edit the article yourself. There are several citation templates here, or you can just add the key information in whatever format you're comfortable with, and someone else can format it later.


 * A general comment: this page ("User talk:Co2clean", i.e. your own talk page) is not a great place to converse about article edits, because people won't usually check here. The right place is on the article's talk page, in this case Talk:Carbon dioxide cleaning, so that anyone with an interest in the article can easily see the discussion. If you want to get the attention of a particular editor, you can write a message on their personal talk page, or send them an alert by putting the template in the conversation. Thanks! — swpb T 17:17, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Why do i get 5 emails for the above?Co2clean (talk) 18:15, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You must have your preferences set to email you whenever there is an edit to your talk page. I made changes to my comments above, and apparently each edit triggered a separate email. If you want, you can control your email settings here. — swpb T 20:21, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

I created a new first paragraph, opening paragraph on some page, I thought this page and I cant find it - typical programming situation. Is there another page when one can comment about the page, i seem to have lost it. LOL< i found it after saying it cant find it. So typical for me.