User talk:Cobaltbluetony/Archive07

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This archive page covers approximately the dates between 2007-09-30 and 12-31-2007.

Michelle Kelly
The reason I created the Michelle Kelly article as Michelle Kelly (skeleton) was the article had been deleted twice previously. I did not want a third time having an article of that same name being deleted again. Chris 13:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Fatevan3
I'm not an admin, but this thread on ANI should hopefully do the trick soon enough. By the way, thanks for the revert. --Onorem♠Dil 15:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Newbie help
Thanks for the advice, it's all new to me and I'm struggling a bit! Best way is to keep on trying things until they work, I have managed to write a new article and do some simple editing. Many thanks. Nimbus227 16:10, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

USNV
We bring nearly two decades of expertise as well as some integrity to the subject matter. I have since edited the user page in an attempt to address the "blatant advertising" accusation. I would repectfully request that you look closely at the ATN user information if you are looking at mine. Thank you.USNV WEB 16:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: USNV - Coporation information
Please see reference to accredited source for the User info. Thanks for your guidence.USNV WEB 16:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
Regarding the article Ecancermedicalscience, which you tagged for speedy deletion with the reason "It is an article about a club or group that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject", I wanted you to know that I have removed the speedy deletion tag. This article does not qualify for speedy deletion because it is not an article about a club or group, it is about a journal. If you still want the article to be deleted, please use the process. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

David James Stang
Thanks for moving the brief biographical material to the userpage of David James Stang; that was a nice solution. I've left him a note and offered him further help in understanding Wikipedia. And may I add, your large quantity of good work in new page patrol has not gone unnoticed by me. Accounting4Taste 20:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Intro
Howdy. Just fyi, (as you've been very helpfully looking after it recently), I've asked for help at Bot owners' noticeboard, concerning our non-optimal bot maintenance. No response needed, just letting you know :) --Quiddity 19:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Blog opera
I personally read that guideline more loosely than some, especially when the neologism is admitted to be something that was just invented. Here, the sources are blogs, which aren't reliable per WP:V. NawlinWiki 20:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I would use db-empty or db-a7. NawlinWiki —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 20:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Space Maggot
Please return the Space Maggot article to a Original page it had. It was important enough to have it's own page. If you do not undo the vandalism in 2 hours you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. User:Icerainbow--Icerainbow 21:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC) Okay i see your logic, you will not be blocked,sorry for the misunderstanding, can you take to afd for amusement?--Icerainbow 21:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Philly meetup #5
Please look at Meetup/Philadelphia 5 and give your input about the next meet-up. Thank you. This automated notice was delivered to you because you are on the WikiProject Philadelphia/Philadelphia meet-up invite list. BrownBot 21:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice
Hi. Thanks for the advice you dropped on the talk page for the article on bedrocan. I did sign it like you said, but that did not stop MR Mike Rosoft from deleting the article just seconds after I had compelted it. I'm thanking you for your patience also; it seems Mike was fresh out - he deleted four items inside one minute - the bedrocan and talk:bedrocan included. May I ask was it you who tagged the item Bedrocan as SPAm? M Rosoft told me that he was complying with a request for immeadiate deletion, and that he did that becuase it consisted of nothing but product marketing. About marketing: why is it there is a wiki page on the Mars Bar: surely that too is marketing? all the best] Barentsz 22:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ecancermedicalscience
Hi Cobaltbluetony -- I've removed the prod tag on Ecancermedicalscience because a merge without deletion, ie retaining the redirect, seems the best move in this case. I agree with the merge proposal. Regards, Espresso Addict 08:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

My French
Well, technically, my userpage said I can contribute in French. ... although I guess it doesn't any more. I went ahead and replied in my horribly broken French. (Comment dit-on "spam" en français?) I like a challenge, I guess. -- Merope 17:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, sure, if you want to be all logical about it. Jeez.  :)  -- Merope 17:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Please Refrain
May I just suggest that you refrain from placing extremely grotesquely coded tables into a user's talk page. Just a thought. It's not nice or even close to necessary either.I don&#39;t get it. 02:50, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Shawish
My initial thoughts exactly. I may put it for AFD though.--WriterListener 19:31, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply to this
Two points:

First, I did not write the comment to which you replied on my User_talk page; as the signature indicates, it was written by User:TehFrankles. I will, however, reply to your comment about substitution: you are correct that substitution of welcome templates is the consensus; my point was that the welcome template has moved well past the useful into the merely terrifying. Because I happened to be sitting next to User:TehFrankles in meatspace at the time, I simply removed the unneeded welcome template, so that, when he looked for my promised message about the popups script, he would find it more easily; while this was a technical violation of the community consensus on editing others' User_talk comments, I believe it was permissable, because it both concording with Frank's wishes, and effected only a template, which does not (imho) have the same intellectual sovereignty as an actual user comment.

Second, I used pre tags rather than nowiki tags quite intentionally; I was demonstrating code as code, not as a name. While nowiki would be correct if I were referring to by name, I was referring to it as code to be inserted into Frank's theme, and so used pre tags. (This is loosely concordant with How_to_edit_a_page; properly code tags would have been used as well, but I deemed them unneeded contextually, since they are only semantic, and it was a User_talk page.)

Finally, I'd like to say that I'm really, really not trying to engage in a flamewar here, just responding to a cascade misunderstanding (largely rooted in meatspace/wikispace information asymetry). Cain 21:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: Rob Graafland
Yes, I see that now. Thanks for the heads up Ryan Lupin  (talk/contribs) 20:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Western seminary
''Please feel free to tag Western Seminary, instead of the improperly titled Western seminary, which is now a redirect as a result of my move to a correct title. - CobaltBlueTony 20:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC)''
 * Thanks- and I see I accidentally posted the "stub" template three times :). jj137  ( Talk ) 20:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Surfing Peru
That text in not in the article in question..It is a reference Surfmac2004 15:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

yeah I think it should be named as so too. Thanks for considering his age. He has a lot to learn but is eager to learn and recover from mistakes. I hope he learns wikifying articles soon though.-- Lenticel ( talk ) 15:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Built to Serve
Thank you for replying to me concerning the qualifications of a published work. After reading the article, it's still very confusing for this type of work. The guidelines seem to be slanted towards fictional work, not the business genre that this book resides in. Perhaps time will merit it deemable of an article. Most importantly, however, thank you for taking the time to point me in the right direction and being helpful. So many Wikipedians share an arrogance and self-rightousness that you do not. Thank you for being helpful. Andyhartman 15:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

vandal
''Wow, that would mean I was either exceptionally bendy, or very well-endowed. Either way, it's a theoretical compliment. Crazy kids... - CobaltBlueTony 16:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * ''P.S. Thanks for catching that! - CobaltBlueTony 16:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL. That it would. And as always, no problem. Gscshoyru 16:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Autorv
What is autorv? How do I get it? Your Grace Lord Sir Dreamy of Buckland  tm  23:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, you are always reseting all of the sandboxes, and in your edit summary, it says that you are using autorv. Your Grace Lord Sir Dreamy of Buckland   tm  14:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Archiving
I did years ago, but I don't care enough anymore. Everyking 17:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Blocked user
Hi, He's indef blocked User:Flavius_Belisarius I have filled an ANI for it. His mixing legitimate edits with POV and I'm just following the WP:BAN. VartanM 20:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Meetup/Philadelphia 5
 You're invited to the

Philadelphia-area Wikipedia Meetup

November 11, 2007

Time: 5:00 pm

Location: Buca Di Beppo, 258 South 15th Street, Philadelphia, PA 19102. 'RSVP (view/edit this template'') You have received this message because you are on the invite list, you may change your invite options via that link. BrownBot 22:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Archiving / deleting
I agree - but there is no deleting as such is there? I appreciated your encouraging introduction, but bumping into BetaCommand was an experience of which I would rather not be reminded. The BCBot breaks the WP:EQ etiquette in failing to assume good faith; and mere contributors are nothing against tyrannics! Salisian 21:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Vandal blocked
Thankyou for bringing this to my attention. The IP vandal in question has now been blocked.  Lra drama 14:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Seneca Technologies
Hi there: Just wanted to say that I didn't mean to disrespect your choice of the speedy tag -- I nearly deleted it -- but just had a feeling that this author was the type that would go into a long drawn-out process of multiple recreation, etc. This way, it takes a few days but we get an answer that will allow us to delete the damn thing instantly once it fails AfD. And who knows, it might pass! Personally I think it's running up against WP:NOT but ... we'll see what AfD brings. I hope you find this satisfactory; if you'd care to comment, I'm at your service. Accounting4Taste 07:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome
Hello Tony, and thank you for the welcome. Unfortunately I cannot delete articles, so I asked a friendly sysop to do that instead. I hope that's OK. Interesting wiki 15:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. As I tried to explain to RHaworth, the whole article is derived from, and still is, a blatant violation of copyright, which in turn will always make it an unsalvageable violation of copyright. I really think the article and its history should be deleted so we can start again. Interesting wiki 15:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was looking at Copyright problems, which says that copyright violations, where all revisions have copyright problems, get deleted. I'm now not sure whether to add the db-copyvio template, or to write a new article at Talk:PAGENAME/Temp, or to make an edit which removes all the content, or to wait for RHaworth's opinion, or whether Wikipedia bothers about articles derived from copyrighted text at all. What is your opinion of the best way forward? Interesting wiki 15:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. I was hoping a friendly sysop could just deal with it quickly and without much trouble - it's an obvious candidate for deletion. I'll be working on a rewrite with at least as much info as was there before. Interesting wiki 16:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Welcome?
My first edit was August 11, 2006. Why put a welcome on my talk page now? Dougz1 18:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

thank you
Thank you for welcome and useful links. Loredanananu 12:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Atkinson
Man you';re quick two seconds I look for the reference and youve tagged it!!! You tagged it within seconds -that must be some record!!!

OK cool. I could have easily referenced it before posting -I usually do but didn't realise somebody would be so quick! Wow!

♦ Sir Blofeld ♦     "Talk"? 13:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Sky Friends
I just tagged it for CSD. Zero press releases, nothing on skyone.co.uk, and the level of changes without sources (template, redirect of existing Sky One article pretty much screams vandal to me. Cheers! spryde | talk  13:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

User:I Lik Mudkips
Actually, I don't think it is Ln of x; it appears to be Trueman31. Unless of course they are the same person, but I suspect that is not the case.--Isotope23 talk 14:14, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe they are the same, see the Eastenders fascinations, the fact that they're trolling the same few admins, and User:Trueman 31 and Ln of X VS Anemone Projectors. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

MonitorFuse
I'm new to this and not sure what to expect. Any help you could give me would be helpful. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monitorfuse (talk • contribs) 15:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
...if Pluto is not a planet, where does that leave Scorpios?...

I took 'purported' out of the E8_(mathematics) page, where it was used to describe the Lisi TOE. Looked at the 'neutrality' guidelines, and I reckon 'purported' violates them. Did a little minor tweaking while I was in there. Hope it is for the best.

no idea why my 'E8' link isn't working... it isn't the "p" tags... -- Cashmundy (talk) 19:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Oops!
I wasn't entirely sure where to find a "Sand Box" and thought that the page I was using to create "Current President of USA" was it. I was trying to learn this complex WIKKICode which is entirely different from HTML or BBCode or anything I have seen before. In order to test my ability and try to learn the WIKKI code I decided I was going to something interesting so as to keep my own intrest and to make sure I stuck with the learning process. I thank you for your patience in this matter. And hope I havn't made a complete fool of myself. If I was too obscure with this message let me know so I can try to be more clear. In the future I will use the sandbox as now I know where it is at.

Thank You, Systems Administrator Owner Operator Scherer Programming Web Design goethe@scherer-programming.com goethe1990 08:18, November 19, 2007

Nokia 6133
Hey, if you don't mind 'mentoring' me a bit, I've got a question. I've got a Nokia 6133, and can add to and correct the current information. The deal on the phone is that it is the T-Mobile variant of the 6131, and for some reason T-Mobile crippled it, disabling things like the ability to allow useful apps like gmail and the Opera browser net access. Currently it is believed that the only way to fix this is to reflash the phone, but I found that by using a downloadable hack called NSS I was able to fix it. I think maybe it isn't even necessary to change the product code (to turn it into a 6131) but just forcing a factory reset might do it.

As for 'verifiable', all I can say is it Worked For Me. I first changed the product code, so I can't say if that is essential or not. But I think everyone who gets one of these things from T-Mobile (good company, Really Bad Decision, as even the T-Mobile techs seem to tacitly agree) would like to be able to uncripple it without having to pay $35 and ship it off to iunlock.com when all you need is a USB cable for it (useful in itself) and NSS.

Questions:

1) Does this info belong in Wikipedia?

2) 'Crippling' is how what T-Mobile did with the phone is commonly described on e.g. howardforums, but perhaps it would not be neutral enough and I should just stick with 'disabled'?

If you think it belongs, I'll write it up. Feel free to provide any guidance-in-advance you care to.

Thanks,

Jim —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cashmundy (talk • contribs) 21:55, November 19, 2007

Gillian Gibbons
Thank you for nominating my page for speedy deletion; I put the 'holdon' link on there, then began to write the reasons for holding on. However, within 8 minutes the page was gone.

I managed to write your username down though, which was cool :D. Buckethed (talk) 16:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

So, how do you recommend I should start a page, with one line, then edit it over the next 1 hour (which is how I usually do it), without it getting deleted? Buckethed (talk) 16:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Message on my Talk Page
Why did you send this to me?!?

The Helpful One (Talk) 17:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't!!!
I didn't create the article, it had some info when I saw it, and then when I added the tags using Friendly, the info had disappeared!!!

The Helpful One (Talk) 17:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
moved to Cobaltbluetony's Awards and Barnstars. Thanks!!! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:16, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Just starting out
Thanks for the heads up on my first page.

Adolfo Camarillo --Kroytz (talk) 22:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Nathan
Thanks for pointing it out, but I blocked when I saw his charming edit to my user page, before I saw he'd repeated his behaviour on Agathoclea's page. Sigh... Good work, CBT. Regards, BencherliteTalk 16:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't undo my changes
I am only clearing up my own useless discussions. Why is it your problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebbee (talk • contribs) 18:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Now you know media
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HELLO IF YOUR SO BUSY THAN STOPPING EDITING POINTLESS THINGS AND DON'T YOU TELL ME IT SHOULD BE DELETED!!! HELLO FIRST AMENDMENTS FREEDOM OF PRESS ANYONE AND SPEECH! SO YOU STOP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.167.194 (talk) 20:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Stop Deleting!
Please do not mark my page for deletion as I am still editing it!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bugmenot123123123123 (talk • contribs) 15:23, December 6, 2007


 * Please add articles with reliable, verifiable sources to satisfy the necessary notability criteria. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion?
Hi Cobaltbluetony, you marked the article about the EIS for speedy deletion. However, I fail to see why. From my point of view it is not blatant advertising. There was a missing link to this studio on the main Electronic Arts page (almost all of the other studio´s are linked as well and have similar articles), and on one of the tv channels here in Madrid (ESMadrid) they are showing a ´documentary´ about this studio. I live in Madrid and would like to know more about this studio (and other people as well I think). So I hoped to kick off an encyclopedic piece of information about this studio, and hope that it might be expanded by other people in the future.

In the meantime I have added a citation and made some changes so it would be much appreciated if you could remove the ´speedy deletion´-tag.

Thanks! - (Insomnioso (talk) 00:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC))

Revolver (band)
Hi there, I created a page for the band Revolver, but it has been speedily deleted, and I can't understand why. I saw the list of bands listed on the Hut Records page, some of whom never sold any records whatsoever, and yet Revolver released 5 singles on the Virgin subsidiary Hut records, two of which were UK independent chart number ones, and also an album on Virgin in 1993. The band also toured America twice, where their album was released, along with another compilation CD of early singles, which got lots of college radio play there. The singer of the band Revolver went on to play bass guitar for the very successful band Death In Vegas - so surely his links to them would merit an inclusion for Revolver in Wiki? It seems very strange that there are many bands on here with pages that were less successful that Revolver - so why was their page speedily deleted? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmindgames (talk • contribs) 10:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Tsti
Nonsense, indeed, but not patent nonsense, which has a very specific meaning. =) Powers T 15:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Ballet Fantastique
It's back again. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:12, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Your eyes must be deceiving you. I don't see it :)
 * (Listed on WP:PT bearing in mind the multiple recreation.) Stifle (talk) 17:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you for your patience with me on this issue. I posted it where you suggested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Smooshette/Ballet_Fantastique and would like you and/or other administrators to look at it. I added some sources that may help provide your criteria for significance. The Register Guard is the second largest newspaper in Oregon. "The Register-Guard is an independent newspaper owned and operated by the local Baker family since 1927. Oregon's second-largest daily, The Register-Guard is the region's leading provider of information valued by our customers: news, commentary and advertising (The Register-Guard: The region's leading information provider)." Your help and suggestions are appreciated, Christy --Smooshette (talk) 22:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Is part of the problem that I edited the page several times in one day? --Smooshette (talk) 22:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Marked for deletion
Hello. I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about when you say notability, but I have included the PDF that the info comes from I hope this helps. If there is anything else I can do, please let me know.

Monitorfuse (talk) 18:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)monitorfuse

Thank You
for starting the discussion. It is very helpful.

Monitorfuse (talk) 22:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)monitorfuse

Park railway station
Although it is still under debate, the naming conventions for UK stations states that stations which only serve(d) the railways should be named [...] railway station. Railway does not start with a capital letter at the beginning in the English language, unless at the start of a sentence anyway so I don't understand why you think an exception should me made for a relatively insignificant station. └and-rew ┘┌talk ┐ 09:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Park railway station was a railway station on the Huddersfield Line from Manchester Victoria station, the name of the railway station was "Park" as it lies next to Philips Park one of the United Kingdom, and the world's oldest municipal parks. The name of the station was Park and on wikipedia we do not have the power to start renaming old stations because the name is considered to be too ambiguous. location of the staion. └and-rew ┘┌talk ┐ 16:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Also the debate is over the naming of stations within the UK on the talk page as to what is acceptable names e.g. "[...] railway station" or just "[...] station" for stations with multiple forms of transit. Calling the station article "Park Railway Station" is not acceptable as there is no rationale why "Railway" or "Station" should begin with a capital letter. └and-rew ┘┌talk ┐ 17:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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Anything Else I can do?
Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if the discussion was closed for the entry I submitted? I have not heard anything, and have mad some updates to the listing and responded to the issues addressed. If there is something else I can do, please let me know. Thanks.

Monitorfuse (talk) 22:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)monitorfuse

Re: Thanks and one for you too

 * Ditto! (And I just returned the favor!) - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I noticed :) Thanks! Gscshoyru (talk) 20:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Philly meetup 6
I'm working on planning the sixth Philadelphia meetup, and I'm looking for ideas and votes about the place and location. Since you RSVP'd for the last one I thought you might like to weigh in. Thanks, and I hope to see you there! -- Te xa sD ex  &#9733;  22:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

West Little Rock
No prob. I don't have a great wish to see it run 5 days :-) Thanks for the notice. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:18, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hugh Baird Hotel
as i said already on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hugh_Baird_Hotel

i strongly suspect that this is a student joke from an educational institution with the same name. furthermore: -no web link to the hotel, -no street /adress given for the hotel. -the name only appears on google in clones of wikipedia, -not on a single list of hotels o discussion pages /user evaluation like trip advisor or similar pages. -there is no regerence to a tV TV show "Whistlecroft Investigates" -there a very few hotels which charge in dublin 1000 pound a night.at least one can expect such hostels listed in on pages for booking.

-nobody else has made contributions of content to this article. -the author only left this ingle article under his name most of this are only indicators, but not a final proof

Dublin Tourism Tourism Centre Suffolk Street Dublin 2 Republic of Ireland tel. +353 1 6057700

may be could confirm this.

but i am open to discuss when somebody finds some evedance that this exist. saludos stefan --Stefanbcn (talk) 23:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Cairo-Alexandria desert road
The article is upgraded now.--TheEgyptian (talk) 22:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Response Insurance
See Unitrin Direct Auto Insurance...The Response Insurance layout and info was specifically taken from the layout of Unitrin page. There was no promotional info on the entire Response Insurance page, and it should not have been deleted... The last time it was tagged for deletion it was contested and an administrator found that it should not be deleted.--Shawkey3 (talk) 15:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

So how is Unitrin Notable...show me where they are being used--Shawkey3 (talk) 17:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Stifle, response given to user on user's talk page. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:07, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide me the content for the deleted page so I can compare it to [[Unitrin Direct

Auto Insurance]] for the notability criteria? Thanks. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Will email it to you. Stifle (talk) 20:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ...or not, as you don't have email set up. Drop me a line with your email and I'll send it on. Stifle (talk) 20:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Any word on wether or not this page may be brought back from the dead??--Shawkey3 (talk) 15:11, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Stifle said you should check your spam filter, because it was definitley sent.--Shawkey3 (talk) 21:47, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Nothing wrong with my spam filter. I just sent a test message to myself and it worked fine, appearing immediately.  No clue what happened. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 13:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just sent again. Let me know either way. Stifle (talk) 21:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

This page
Have you checked this page in a while? If you want, I will gladly nominate you for it, instead of a self-nom... &lt;<tt> DREAMAFTER </tt>&gt; &lt; TALK &gt; 01:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Too speedy on the draw
I'm learning about how to use speedy-delete tags. One thing I learned recently is that if someone has just created a page in the last few minutes and the page is empty or very short, one should really give them time (e.g. a few minutes, maybe half an hour or whatever) to finish writing their stub before marking the page with db-empty or db-nocontext and stuff like that. Of course, db-attack, db-copyvio and some others can be quite appropriate even if the page is only a minute old. Anyway, I noticed this page: Superman X where you marked it for speedy-delete as db-empty one minute after it was created. I'm pretty sure I had also marked an earlier version of the same page with db-empty, which I think got deleted and the author had to re-create it. So I made the same mistake as you. We should have given time, at least a few minutes! to see what the article was going to be about before speedying it. One place I learned about this was on some recent RfA's where at least one candidate was criticized for doing the same thing. Also, I got an angry response from the creator of a new page, which also helped me learn. If the page is relatively harmless e.g. just an empty page, there's no reason not to let it sit around for a bit. More recently, when I do new page patrolling I tend to start lower down, e.g. at pages half an hour old or even a couple of days old, to catch ones that are still unpatrolled after that time. --Coppertwig (talk) 20:11, 22 December 2007 (UTC)