User talk:Cobaltbluetony/Archive08

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This archive page covers approximately the dates between 2008-01-01 and 2008-03-31.

VeganAdam
It looks like you've been reversing deletions for the editing of the veganadam organization. I'm a vegan and this is a very important organization in our community, does the article not demonstrate this? What can be done to improve the notability of the article?

Adeepforestgreen86 (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)(Adeepforestgreen86)I concur.

WPPP-LP
I got started on this when I noticed this local station absent on a  list of Georgia Radio Stations. Because I, like you, have a real life, I didn't get it finished right then. I hope to create a more complete stub in the next hour or so. --Blahblah29 (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry to be pissy earlier--it seemed like I was gone for just two seconds, though it was several hours. I'm done for now, and I'll take the under construction tag off now. --Blahblah29 (talk) 20:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, not trying to say it actually abides by policy, but with the new wording of A7 (doesn't apply to controversial ones), stuff like that can't really be speedied if there's a debate on whether or not it has consensus notability. --SmashvilleBONK! 20:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Eyes Set to Kill
I searched google and found lots of pages dedicated to them. They also have official youtube videos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyessettokillfan (talk • contribs) 17:09, January 7, 2008
 * The page does not satisfy all. Neither does several existing articles about other underground musical groups. I may perhaps have to neutralize and clean up the page. Eyessettokillfan (talk) 22:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Teen Resource Center

 * The user "brad" seems new to Wikipedia, so I thought i would give him a chance to explain himself, We should not bite newcomers, now should we?

I tried to explain to him what to do, before his first article is mercilessly removed. I am not particularly involved with the article, but it is my duty to help new wikipedians, do not you think?&Lambda;ua&int; Wi  se  (talk) 16:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Robert Abbinanti
What is wrong there is no copywriting? ♥♦¢åŗđş♣♠ (talk) 19:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * FWIW - I think your taking this aticle to AFD was the right thing to do - there are clearly opposing views on the worthiness of it. Just because it seems the usual outcome I expect the result will most likely be delete but I hope to at least give the article a chance! Ros0709 (talk) 19:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Andrew Ogilvy
Hi, I really don't know a ton about what constitutes notability, and I don't really follow basketball. In case you asked because of my recent creations, the college football players I've been adding are all almost assured to be drafted in the 2008 NFL Draft - some even in the first round. So that's how I know they are notable enough. Sorry I can't be more help.► Chris Nelson Holla! 18:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is not an appropriate speedy. A7 is not about notability - it's about high school kids making articles about themselves or other such vanity articles. The assertion that someone is a DI football or basketball player is itself an assertion of significance and if you believe it should be deleted, you should use the prod template or take it to WP:AFD if the prod is contested. --B (talk) 18:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Division I, the highest level of NCAA competition. Not all DI players are notable by any stretch of the imagination, but unless someone was doing something pointy like creating articles on every backup longsnapper in the Sun Belt Conference, it's not an obvious case and needs to go to AFD. Speedy deletion is only for obviously inappropriate articles that are indisputable.  In the case of a major college football or basketball player, it's disputable.  The longsnapper may not be notable and the walkon practice squad point guard may not be notable, but a starter for a major team is notable.  So something like this needs to go to AFD if there's an issue. (In this case, there isn't - this player is clearly notable.) --B (talk) 18:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Please help removing the deletion notice
I have impoved the article considerably, please help removing the deletion notice. 12.34.80.98 (talk) 08:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Notability Help
Hi. Thanks for the welcome note. Could you see if Daw Mi Mi Khaing satisfies the notability criteria? I added four references and would appreciate a second look. Thanks!--RegentsPark (talk) 14:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your comment to
Thank you for the suggestion. I noticed that you hope to be an administrator. So I would like to return the favor and make a suggestion for you. If you get your wish, I'd like to suggest that you break out of the mold that is prevalent among some (but not all) administrators: irrational tolerance of editors who have made more than a few edits and persistently fail not only to abide by Wikipedia's guidelines for a quality encyclopedia, but to even bother to read them. I think new editors should be given some flexibility. But editors who have been repeatedly warned and fail to make the feeblest attempt to comply result in a poor quality encyclopedia. So we end up with happy editors who continue to blunder (or bulldoze) their way through countless articles. That's why Wikipedia, although unparalleled in breadth and depth of coverage, is woefully inadequate when it comes to reliability and quality of many individual articles. The administrator system helps, but unfortunately doesn't help nearly enough. That having been said, best wishes in your attempt to be an administrator. Ward3001 (talk) 20:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

University of the State of Pennsylvania
Tony, you'll love this. The entire text of the deleted article was as follows, and I quote, in full:



NawlinWiki (talk) 04:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The new stub looks good. I added categories.  NawlinWiki (talk) 15:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandal

 * IP user has immediately returned to vandalism again. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Cobalt, I've blocked the vandal for a week this time. Dreadstar †  17:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Meetup/Philadelphia 6
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Regarding User_talk:Tube_bar
It should be noted that the user Tube bar is the previously banned user Stonic. You'll notice from his edit history he already started adding links again to that site. Likewise, he recently used Special:Contributions/4.153.59.194 to vandalize several pages with AtariAge references. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 05:38, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No, you're not jumping the gun. I haven't done it yet because I've had dealings with this guy off of wikipedia, and he's basically a psychotic person that will go all out to get what he wants (including harassment and "shady" methods".  You're seeing some of the early stages of this in the discussion.  The second I get involved, it was escalate it in to a whole new level.  I'll point you to the thread in the discussion forum of Digital Press, where he's posting as Stonic and documenting what he's all been doing here - www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112000 "the trouble with Wikipedia".  I believe that also constitutes politicking, as he's trying to incite people to start up on Wikipedia. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Just letting you know he registered another account now and was busy vandalizing pages and spamming digital press links again: Special:Contributions/Rockgardenmagic. You'll noticed he vandalized all AtariAge related links and AtariProtos links (which is run by a friend of the AtariAge guy). --Marty Goldberg (talk) 06:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * And its done (for now). The sock puppet report was approved: Suspected_sock_puppets/Tube_bar, and the admins have taken it a step further and moved to blacklist the site he was spamming all together: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam.  --Marty Goldberg (talk) 02:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

detours
can you fix the article detours cause it has very bad grammar sentences, and upload the cover??

detours
can you fix the article detours cause it has very bad grammar sentences, and upload the cover?? Seki rs (talk) 20:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

RE Tyra Banks and Tyson Beckford
I couldn't figure out how to cite the references, anyway i found the heights at celebheights.com and just thought i could help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T john1986 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Ludwig-Musser
I disagree with your edit because little else in the article establishes notability. Certianly the introductory paragraph does nothing in the respect. Perhaps something can be said in the intro that will help? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 22:17, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that Ludwig's products are used by various famous musicians is speckled everywhere within the History section. Having a list violates WP:IINFO and WP:EMBED. Also, the list doesn't help establish notability due to it being a first-party source, which works against WP:ORG. Not that anyone should really doubt the notability of Ludwig anyways.--SeizureDog (talk) 22:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * RE: "I tend to disagree with the notion that Lugwig is a name that is famous on its own merits"
 * I simply meant that it's unlikely to get deleted over notability. Of course the article should still establish itself.--SeizureDog (talk) 23:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Adam Lippes
Added to article page, which obviously still does read like an ad. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:lolcat
No problem. I wouldn't worry too much about violating 3RR, if you check the history you'll see the other editors adding the link have already well and truly surpassed it. I'll keep an eye on the page and protect it if necessary, in the meantime, we can has discussion because DO NOT WANT edit wars! - Zeibura (  talk  ) 20:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Templating
I noticed you Templated Science apologist for being in an edit war. Any reason you chose not to template Levine2112? PouponOnToast (talk) 21:18, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * For future reference, I find that people think more of your neutrality on issues like this if you either chose to write personalized messages, or template any and all without evaluating who did and did not violate 3rr. The template you used, uw-3rr does not require the user to be over 3rr, just to be engage in an edit war, which both of them obviouly were. I hope this advice will help you in the future. Have fun! PouponOnToast (talk) 21:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

"This is an underhanded means to reinforce one's viewpoint."
Can you explain in detail how a redirect to existing policy is what you're claiming? --Ronz (talk) 00:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation! --Ronz (talk) 03:38, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Article probation notification
This action appears to be disruptive. Be aware that disruption on any article related to homeopathy may result in a topic ban, per the community based remedy described at Talk:Homeopathy/Article probation. Therefore, I hope you will be especially careful to set a good example for other users. Thank you. Jehochman Talk 15:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

RFD
Based on the outcome of this are you going to proceed with filing an WP:RFD? -- Levine2112 discuss 23:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Please help
is there ne way you can save a page but not have it open 2 the public yet? like in case ur not done editing? thx 4 everthing! --Meliss402 (talk) 20:17, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tony,

I re-submitted 'Molton Brown Ltd' after reading up on the kind of article that Wiki requires and then requested that this was moved to 'Molton Brown' as I realised that no-one would search for 'Molton Brown Ltd'. I am not sure how to follow up on this & also why 'Molton Brown Ltd' redirects to KAO corporation as it is very much a stand alone brand. Other similar pages include: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Occitane, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aveda, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_%28cosmetics%29 etc etc Hopefully you cna advise me again!

Cheeky10 (talk) 13:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Molton Brown
Hi there, Thanks for the response, can you please explain why Molton Brown cannot have a stand alone page rather than linking to Kao? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheeky10 (talk • contribs) 10:12, February 4, 2008
 * Well, Cheeky10, it seems that your article creation was not in the correct/acceptable format, as was deemed to be advertising or spam. It may have been that it was simply too corporate-sounding and did not have the proper tone expected of an encyclopedia article.  Kao Corporation, however, is the perfect place to cite verifiable, reliable secondary sources, and if the information about the company becomes significantly cumbersome to be contained within the Kao article, it can be broken out into its own article once again.  But proper sourcing must be followed, and the information must indicate that the compnay is notable for inclusion into the Wikipedia encyclopedia. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

User name
My name is not at all random, at least not any more than your name (WODUP). WODUP is not an English word but just looks like several random letters to me. I'm sure this isn't the case in regards to your name as the letters W, O, D, U, & P have some significance for you. Likewise my name, Askdnapn39nfkjfen, holds significance for me. Chalk it up to chaos theory, but order is usually found in seemingly randomness. the Ask-dna part should be obvious: I believe that we can learn a great deal about humans, both physically and psychologically by unlocking the secrets of human DNA, thus the Ask dna. The P & N are my initials, my age is 39, and the other letters are the first initials of my children. At first I tried to create a username that was a single English word but all my options were taken so I decided to be a little creative. I'm truly sorry if you thought my username is random, but as you can see, it simply is not. 11:53, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Shin-chan01
Why did you...send me a message??? Shin-chan01 (talk) 17:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Farooqbaloch
Hi Tony Thank you very much for your kind contribution. I created this page as I also belong to Sethwi Tribe and I am trying to collect much more referential data and images, if I could I will be uploading them.--Farooqbaloch (talk) 11:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me?
. I am not indef blocked. PouponOnToast (talk) 18:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Caught that. Sorry again. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Robert borsody
I was in the middle of using Twinkle to nominate Robert borsody for CSD:A7 because the original editor removed the copyrighted material when they saw my other CSD tag. I ended up on the original page, not the renamed page. It wasn't a manual nomination. I'm not sure how your renaming helps anything, but no harm done. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see how renaming a page up for CSD causes anything but confusion, as it did in this case, but you're entitled to your theory. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 19:16, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Star Trek
I was just changing the image to a high-def version - yet i was told i am not allowed to do that - is there a problem here beacuse i cant see what is wrong with that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nx01rules (talk • contribs) 18:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Spamspammerspamist
This user has only a username block, and can choose a new name as and when he chooses. His original name is against wikipedia policy. It would therefore not be appropriate to unblock. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 19:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Experimenting
I am just doing an experiment on signatures. I am altering the signatures and seeing how they look.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 17:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Catalomics
I was about to do what you suggested when I discovered that the deletedpage template has been abolished. Woe is me! Deb (talk) 21:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I was just going to put that right as well! Deb (talk) 21:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That's one I'm going to have to work out ! Old-fashioned page protection still works, but I'm nervous of doing that on deleted pages. Deb (talk) 21:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Brooklyn Bar Association Volunteer Lawyers Project
You have marked the page for speedy deletion. We are a non-profit legal assistance organization posting here for the first time. We plan to edit the page, but are unfamiliar with the accepted format. Please help edit the page rather than delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooklynvlp (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Am I a bot?
Why no...I...am...not...a....robot....:) Seriously, quick on the draw, sometimes it's a good thing, keeps me busy at work. Wildthing61476 (talk) 19:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well when there's nothing to do, Wikipedia's my job, all work and no play make Wildthing somethingsomething Wildthing61476 (talk) 19:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hengelo Bier
Hi Cobaltbluetony,

Thanks for your help with the Hengelo Bier page. Your contribution to Wikipedia is impressive.

Could you please revert the page title to Hengelo Bier, which is the official name in native Dutch, there is no such thing as Hengelo Beer.

Thanks for your understanding,

regards, Witteros —Preceding unsigned comment added by Witteros (talk • contribs) 08:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Unhelpfulness = stressed editor?
While I understand that you might feel frustrated from time to time, edits like this are not helpful. If you don't like it here that much, you can always disappear. However, a good number of us would prefer that users with genuine knowledge, or at least access to information, learn the best practices of editing here and contribute effectively. If you're geniunely stressed, consider stepping away for a while so as not to get too emotionally invested in what is not worth your health or sanity. Cheers! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I was of the impression "Feel free to change the text below this line. No profanity, please." did not imply "but only if it's overtly helpful and factual." --NEMT (talk) 20:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

C2K
hi, why did you remove my addition to C2k .. people need to know... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neochivers (talk • contribs) 21:02, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

kay why amt i allowed to post it, even which i put pictures with proof up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neochivers (talk • contribs) 21:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

gary chivers
i am NOT gary chivers... im not sexy enough to be =D —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leekspinner (talk • contribs) 21:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

don't believe me if you want.. check the ip adresses it's not up to you wether i am or am not a certain person in which this case i am not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leekspinner (talk • contribs) 22:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

AIV
Just a note in case you were confused by the bot repeatedly removing your report. You were using instead of. The bot doesn't recognize the user template as a report, so it interpreted your additions as comments tied to the reports above them. When the accounts above your report were blocked, your "comment" was automatically removed at the same time. --Onorem♠Dil 15:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/SogoTrade
Thought you may be interested in the above debate. I removed the prod tag as you cannot prod an article that has already been deleted. Thanks. J Milburn (talk) 15:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

B.I.S.T.
Notability of BIST? If a State Board of Education is adopting a program on a state-wide level is not that notable in and of itself? The fact the this is happening in Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, etc. makes it all the more so. As stated in the article (please reread since I am updating it) the BIST program affects the daily lives of thousands of educators, children and parents throughout the region. Unfortunately, independent outside resources are difficult to find.

K-parri1 (talk) 16:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Veganadam
I'm still a little new at this, and I'm trying to find the right page. Can you file a 3rr on them, while I report them as sockpuppets? Kafka Liz (talk) 20:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Amendment... I just realized I have an appointment in approximately 2 minutes and can't get to it right now. I'm sorry!  Maybe A Softer Answer can help? Kafka Liz (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:
I'm really sorry, I didn't notice. Reverting with AVT is fast, and I'm not. Anyway, I'll try to be more careful. Thanks for telling me about this. -- 21:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Elliott Baron/Elliott baron
I noticed he had been blocked previously (although unblocked again) after a third level warning for re-creating inappropriate pages. I've given a fourth and final warning. If he re-creates again then I would go for a administrator intervention. But let's hope this warning is enough! --JD554 (talk) 15:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh well, one less thing to worry about I guess --JD554 (talk) 15:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Ivy Bridge College
Ivy Bridge College is a separate entity as past of Tiffin University. Ivy Bridge has its own management, own materials, and own staff. The page must not be merged with Tiffin University. Also, we have questions regarding what material we should site as reference. Our webpage is listed at the bottom of the article, and that is where the information in this article is collected. Ivybridgejayme (talk) 16:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

B.Z. (newspaper)
Unfortunately, I don't speak German (even though I live in Milwaukee); so I can't help with the original. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  17:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Deutsch-Athen
Vas? This is "Schöne Milwaukee von Michigan-Zee," the Deutsch-Athen! Until the Great War, the biggest German-language publishing house in the world, bigger than anything in Berlin, Münch or Vien, was Germania Publishing, right downtown, with the bronze statue of "Germania Triumphant" over the Germania Building's doorway and the decorative pickelhauben on its towers. We had seven German-language dailies, from conservative Catholic to Socialist, and countless weeklies. In Milwaukee, not only does it matter whether you're German, but what kind of German: Sachsen, Donauschwaben, Bayernische, u.s.w. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  17:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * http://www.uwm.edu/~margo/sympapers/Ortlepp.htm
 * http://www.germanlife.com/Archives/1996/9612_02.html (2nd article)
 * http://mki.wisc.edu/Library/NewAcqs/2004/Winter2004-05.htm (last item [written by my friend Frank P. Zeidler, Milwaukee's most recent Socialist mayor and proud historian of our city])

RE: time to block
Hello. They have been reproted to AIV. I can't block them because I'm not an admin. Sorry,   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  17:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Guess I'm just popular ;)   Compwhiz II ( Talk )( Contribs )  17:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Cobaltbluetony: A little admiration
Is this fine by you?. :) Regards, Rudget . 19:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 'tis fine. :) Rudget . 19:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * *chuckles to self* - Sorry that edit summary was meant to say "contact me" :) Rudget . 19:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Klondike Kalamity
Any chance we can hold off deleting the article on Klondike Kalamity? I know currently it's a little thin, but I am working on getting more info on its many productions, etc. I see you have no true article on old-time melodrama comedies per se, but in that admittedly narrow genre, it is very well known. Chances are, if someone talks about melly-drammers, they are picturing this play in their mind, although they may not know it by name.

Also, I'm realitively new to Wikipedia, so I may not being doing this exactly according to the guidebook, but I am trying to gather more info to flesh the article out.

Thank you.

Aatragon (talk) 21:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC) Gary Peterson, co-author of Klondike Kalamity, 02-18-2008

Help me!
Thank you for creating a user page for me. I am quite familiar to wikipedia, (in the navagation sense) but I really am having a hard time learning how to use my user page. I'd like to make it really cool but I cannot find where to get the "codes" to put user boxes, such as a Wikipedia Project or an "Intrest box". Could you or someone please help me?! It would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Felix (talk) 15:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Reply to the reply that I replied you
Thanks! Yes I'm starting to get the hang of it. Looking for codes right now.

Hooah! and thanks mate!

Felix (talk) 15:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Shaw Preservation Society
Just wanted to let you know that an anonymous editor removed the AfD tag from the above article -- personally I think the article should be speedily deleted, but at the very least it should be Afd'd. --ukexpat (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

David M. Broome
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I get the impression he's only been an unsuccessful candidate for a parliamentary seat, whereas Ross Perot was an unsuccessful candidate for the presidency (not to mention an extremely successful businessman). ??? Deb (talk) 21:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Toledano Tradition
I did fill it out and saved it. Where did it go? I am not sure how to add it now:

This article is about Kabbalah. The name of the article, "Toledano Tradition", is a term used only in the books of one kabbalist, Warren Kenton and by his followers. The term is not used in any traditional works of Kabbalah, nor by any scholars of Kabbalah. The term "Toledano Tradition" is very closely tied to the books of Warren Kenton, and with no one else. The article also contains diagrams from Kenton's books. Given that, the article should have been directed at a discussion of that particular aspect of Kenton's teaching....if such an article is justified. Instead, much of this article, as it now is, just duplicates part of the history section that is already in the Kabbalah article [].

Just what do I need to do to finish listing this AfD? I would appreciate some help because I really do not understand why there was a problem. Thanks. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 23:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Question about soccer
Have you ever heard of Mo Keita or Ben Brewster? 76.109.174.103 (talk) 03:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Star Trek
If you like Star Trek, you might want to check out the side-by-side comparisons I edited about "Trouble with Tribbles' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6KGOkzbf_c

Aatragon (talk) 23:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Keir Stahlsmith
It's protected. Sorry it tool me so long, the skin I was using did not have the "protect" tab for deleted pages. I protected a blanked version. Another admin deleted and salted it. I have changed skins. Thanks for bring the re-creation history to out attention. Dsmdgold (talk) 15:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Marika Michalowska
I'd rather have a full AfD for this page to be carried out. As an experienced editor I wouldn't have put it in Wikipedia if I didn't think there'd be a good chance of genuine notability.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 17:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Wolfkeeper is wrong
the edit war over the jet engine is that my version (which I see youve changed back). Its states in wolfkeepers one that Von Ohain on the history section didnt have any idea about the jet engine when my source proves he did. the info he is getting of the web is outdated. Read this especially the NOTE section then please change my version back. Thanks mate. http://www.cwn.org.uk/heritage/people/whittle/biography.html Von Ohain DIDNT invent the jet engine as it shows he just made modifications to it. Please protect the page after. its just germans trying to take credit where it aint due. thanks i merely want the truth on wikepedia. its a great english invention and this is driving me crazy i dont know why. another new source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=500459&in_page_id=1770 See Ya J. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirjustinflames (talk • contribs) 17:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Rue
Excellent!!!!! Orange Marlin Talk• Contributions 17:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Oopsie
You are right, I thought 3RR fired on the third (because, well, that's when I got my warning). Thanks for pointing out the mistake! --87.189.74.47 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Chris Burns (Musician)
Sorry. D: I haven't reported a copyvio in a long time and forgot to add the tag. --SyntaxError55 talk 19:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :D --SyntaxError55 talk 19:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

User page 76.244.162.118
Thank you for your comments and your invitation on the talk page. Your admin Bzuk seems to have contest with some of my posts, and continuously threatens to have me blocked. Mr. Bzuk seems to be trying to thwart progress with the issue of just what the 666 symbol in "Mr. Deeds Goes to Town" might be. I have no idea why Mr. Bzuk would do this, but he seems to have singled me out to vent his hostility upon. Perhaps if you have an opinion on this 666 topic, you could post it on Mr. Deeds' Discussion page. Thank you.--75.55.39.225 (talk) 06:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Delete warnings
Thanks for your message about leaving users delete warnings. However, if you look at the times of the edits, I think you'll find that you have been a little hasty with me. I was in the process of leaving the user a welcome and a sd-copyvio warning AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU WERE - I got an edit conflict! Next time, please give me a little more time to make my edits before slapping me on the wrists. But thanks for making sure that the user was welcomed etc. Cheers. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 17:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

"Time to take a break?"
And yet, you do not warn Anthon01 to "comment on the contributions and not the contributors" even though the whole matter was instigated by him butting into another person's talk page with the comment "Randy is unwilling to accept community input on this matter. He has been warned repeatedly and appears to believe his POV on homeopathy confers upon him the right to be uncivil. What is the next step?" As usual, it appears that only pro-reality, pro-science people who can think straight are subject to the rules on civility, ad hominem attacks, and assuming good faith, while insane religious cultists such as Anthon01 (and, undoubtedly due to your weird and double-standard-laden interest in this matter, yourself) can post whatever they please without consequence. In the 1 time out of 500 that one of their comments exactly equivalent to mine actually does get sanctioned, they have it almost immediately reverted by one of their pocket administrators--in fact, they get a "barnstar" for their heroic efforts at killing people with fake medicine. A wonderful "encyclopedia" you guys have going here--what is your ultimate goal after all the sane people are run out on a rail? Do you think that by evangelizing for homeopathy, herbalism, creationism, and all the other nonsense, you will convert people? Do you think anyone respects Wikipedia? Everyone with a shred of intelligence knows that this website is a circle-jerk, a game, and a dumping ground for autistic obsessives to talk about Japanese cartoons. You aren't going to accomplish anything more than converting idiots, which you could have done anyway. Randy Blackamoor (talk) 21:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, nor do I want to get neck-deep in debates. As long as you conduct yourself with civility here, you have all the leverage in the world to make your case against uncivil behaviors and poor/deceitful editing practices.  Just because someone else is in a tizzy or a holy war for this side or that in any given subject doesn't mean that you have to get sucked into the same vitriolic exchanges.  It can, in fact, do you actual real physical harm to allow yourself to get so emotionally invested in such wasteful drivel.  Can I recommend doing more maintenance-related tasks or abstaining altogether from Wikipedia?  I've found such a philsoophy to be surprisingly beneficial for my own peace of mind.


 * Just some (hopefully) useful thoughts for you. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 21:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for catching the vandalism attempts at my talk page today. Strange how they'd come out of the woodwork a good three weeks later to vandalize the page. Anyway, the help is appreciated. Thanks! DJ Bullfish  23:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Credible ≠ notable. Please read carefully. Zappos has a notable sales record, and has nontrivial and nonadvertising mention from other notable sources. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Credible = I know a dude that makes awesome shoes and sells alot online. Notable = my friend owns Nike. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IceburgTX"
 * Gotcha. Just that reading their entry, some of the writing is quite pitchy; do you agree? IceburgTX (talk) 16:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Randy's talk page
Look&mdash;Randy clearly doesn't want advice – sensible though it may be – from you. Please stop offering it.

For what it's worth, I do sympathize with him that there has been a habit on the part of some of his opponents to goad him into precipitate action using civility warning templates, and I can understand how he might see your warnings as more of the same (however good your intentions might be).

This has escalated beyond the stage where 'friendly' warnings from his (perceived) opponents are likely to help anything; indeed, such warnings are likely to inflame. If you have further concerns about Randy's conduct, take them to a neutral third party (as on WP:AN/I) if intervention is required. Please don't add any more advice to his talk page when you're clearly not welcome there. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You're right in your comment that your comment was "clearly...not helping". You'd best withdraw it, or I'm likely to block you for continuing to poke Randy.  I dont find it credible that you would be fool enough not to know that your comment wasn't a good idea. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Canvassing
Please read WP:CANVAS. I only point this out because I did the same thing once (inviting a handful of other editors to review an AfD) and was directed to this guideline. (Note: nothing but good faith assumed or implied) — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  16:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thomas R. Carter
I felt he was notable, but after research, couldn't find enough individual'' notability, so I merged with Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz. Thought you'd like to know. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 19:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)''
 * Thanks for the heads up. Actually, you came to the same conclusion as i did; The user created three pages, where two were about the person, and one was about the institute he represents. Since the non profit organisation was more or less compliant to WP:Corp guidelines (Save for the references, but with non profit im lenient) i just tagged the two persons. But this merge is a better solution. Nice work doing so, and even better work on sourcing it :). Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 19:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I felt the addition of a program at a notable US university was significant. Thanks for the compliment! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 19:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Good move all around. Thanks. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 23:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Subtle Notability?
I saw you changed the CSD to a Prod tag on Big Mama's Meatloaf Shack, but I failed to see the subtle notability you were talking about. There didn't seem to be any notability claimed or referenced in the article. Must have been pretty subtle, since I missed it :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildthing61476 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ugh I missed a tag too? Thanks for the cookie and I just wanted to be sure I didn't miss anything! Wildthing61476 (talk) 20:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

IP address
Is aeropagitica going to answer or you answer for him? I'm a little bit confuse, and I still don't know the answer of my question. Thanks for yu time. --85.18.136.105 (talk) 15:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply, very kind of you. Although, if the person who is sharing the IP address with me keeps editing articles, people might think that it's me working offline. Am I right or wrong? I mean, even if I create an account, that person could still edit stuff, right? Thank you for your time =) --85.18.136.105 (talk) 21:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, thank you. Have a nice day! --85.18.136.105 (talk) 10:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

List of psychobilly bands
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the purpose of the red link to encourage people to write the article? Perhaps the sort of people who would visit this page would know about psychobilly bands and add information about a band they're passionate about. I would argue that a group like Koffin Kats, for example, is pretty notable as far as the current psycho scene goes; they have over 29,000 myspace friends — the legendary Meteors only have about 3,500. I simply haven't gotten around to writing their article yet, although I did create two other band articles yesterday. Would you like to help me?

As far as wiki standards on notability, the guide you linked me to seems to concern band articles themselves and not redlinking to them. Perhaps I missed something in it. Either way, if you come across an actual article on a band that is in no way notable, I encourage you to nominate it for deletion.

I admire your interest in this article but it was a mess when I got to it yesterday: headers with no information under them, and probably a third of the article links took the user to pages that weren't about the bands. The link for Deadbolt took me to the article on door locks. The ratio of red-to-blue links is not the sole indicator of how clean an article is, or whether it conforms to wiki standards.

--Emceelane (talk) 19:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you intend to create these articles? List articles here on Wikipedia, especially music-related or other possible targets for self-promotion, are often filled with redlinks that will never succeed as real articles.  If you have an interest in creating articles to address those redlinks for psychobilly bands, please read Notability (music) carefully to make certain that your subjects have sufficient notability to with stand speedy deletion, prods, or nominations for AFD.  But don't just create an article without this information so that the link won't be red.  This would not be sufficient and would easily get deleted.


 * You may wish to join WikiProject Music so that people will know you are a serious and active editor in this category.


 * Some other bands will create an external link (that looks like this), linking to their own site, a MySpace page, or similar, so that it doesn't immediately jump out at you that it is not a real article. This is 99.9999999999% always unacceptable.


 * I hope this addresses your concerns. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused
What did I do? -UWMSports (talk) 21:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * But I'm allergic to chocolate, that pic looks like chocolate chip! -UWMSports (talk) 21:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Trying to kill me? hahaha -UWMSports (talk) 21:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Fugitive, great movie! One of my favorites. -UWMSports (talk) 03:21, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

College of Chinese Physical Culture - deletion
Hi,

I can't believe you've deleted the page! Not only did it take me ages, but I thought it looked quite good!

Getting to the real nitty-gritty, the CCPC is a charity, just as in the same way as RSPCA, so why delete.

They do not charge for their services, are a cultural magnet in many inner city areas of the UK that offer extensive volunteering to underpriveleged youngsters, keeping them active and focused, as well as off the streets.

They have recently received funding from the V Commission, and are desperating trying to spread the word. If the RSPCA can do it, why can't they?!

And more than that, participants in this art (which dates back over 3,000 years) have long enjoyed significant physical and mental health benefits from their involvement.

This is so closely linked to all of your other Chinese movement and dance pages, from Lishi to wushu, kung fu, marshal arts and more, so I'm amazed it has been deleted.

I even put the charity number on the page.

Please reconsider if, for nothing else, for the good work that they do in communities the length and breadth of the country from Edinburgh to London.

James Aldhous (talk • contribs) 13:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S. The League Reports Network page always should have been deleted, apologies, and the other page submitted yesterday was in error, as you would see from the contents, or lack of them. - Aldhous (talk) 13:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read Wikipedia's notability criteria for companies and organizations carefully to see if "College of Chinese Physical Culture" has enough verifiable, reliable sources, and then cite them in the article before submitting it. Notability probably gives you the best guarantee that your article will not be speedily deleted, prodded for detetion, or nominated for detetion at AFD.  Thereafter, check carefully that nothing violates Wikipedia's neutral point-of-view policy in tone or promotional language, and does not appear to be, or contain, original research.  Wikipedia is a secondary source reference, which means the facts have to be sufficiently established elsewhere for us to publish information on it.  Read Wikipedia's general criteria for notability to learn more about what topics we choose to include.  Cheers and happy editing! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:11, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

College of Chinese Physical Culture - editing recommendations
Okay cheers,

However, I must be the only one to find the editing and messaging set-up of Wikipedia a nightmare.

Therefore:

- how do I go back and edit the original text in reference to the guidelines you have highlighted? - is the page safe in the meantime, i.e. it won't disappear completely while I edit.

Thanks.

Aldhous (talk) 14:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Gabreil Daveis Tavern House
Hey Alan, do you think I should switch the name to Hillman Hospital House, as that's the name in the National Registry? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:05, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm accustomed to the Tavern House name from the Gloucester Township article, but the sources I had looked at refer to it as the Tavern House and mention Hospital House as an aside. The NRHP listing was the first place I saw that referred to it as the Hospital House. I'd lean to Tavern House (the current name), but you could support either one and make an excellent case. Stick with your gut and you have my support either way. Alansohn (talk) 15:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Don King (musician)
Thanks! Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I've asked, he has the Whitburn book. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 20:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hillman Hospital House
Heh. I'm sure you've found out by now that I have Ways of Finding bad redirects and cleaning them up very fast. Happy editing! east. 718 at 05:09, February 29, 2008

Don King
MoS says "The titles of... songs and other short works are not italicized, but are enclosed in double quotation marks." Just letting you know. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 04:47, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Table hockey
I will always delete articles that are along the lines of "this is a game we made up last week." I think I've only been taken to deletion review once or twice on those, and they've been upheld. In my opinion, it saves time. In any event, I'd prod rather than AFD if you don't feel comfortable with the speedy tag. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 16:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Valley Girl-esque block hed
I know, I really shouldn't do that per WP:RBI, but given what she was blocked for and the brevity I set it for, I couldn't resist. Daniel Case (talk) 17:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

My interpretation of that policy is that, really, we should block vandals in the most impersonal and bureaucratic tone possible, i.e. what the templates say. Why even give them a laugh? If we did that, you'd get kids who'd vandalize just to see what joke can be made at their expense.

Still, the occasional joke like this isn't unwelcome. Daniel Case (talk) 18:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Dude, you have so got my back!
I didn't even notice some little twits were vandalizing my user page, and all the while you've been quietly reverting for me! Bless you, bless you. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: post on my talk page
Well, I am using huggle, and it does not have all the speedy deletion tags, and I am too lazy to put a more appropriate tag on the page (it also doesn't have db-bio, which ticks me off...) Do you think my use of the vandalism tag is a problem? J.d ela noy gabs adds 18:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It needs db-talk for pages like that. If no one had edited anything in bad faith on it, it would still get that tag. It's useful; Huggle whould look into this... - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Same thanks!
Look give people time add stuff there is NO way you evaluated what I'm adding to a brand new article in the 5 secs from when I posted it.. I give up there is no winning every time I add legitimate articles or commentary its down and I get nasty messages. Warnings and whatever.. thats it.. I quit wikipedia after years of work I quit it. thanks for showing me the light. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdnonmars (talk • contribs) 18:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Dude
You're the one who posted a level 2 warning Against ME.. when I tried to ask WHY you tagged it. You or your buddy there.. I just wanted to discuss you're issues.. I was trying to add stuff to it.. but then.. book I get hit with the tag.. I try to discuss.. I get hit with a vandalism you're the one that attacks other users character.. why not wait 48 hours to tag NEW articles? like whats your issue..

And how is asking for clarification vandalism!? I want an apology.

If you really think its fair to tag works in progress. what if you spent you're time ligimately IMPROVING things.. rather than level 2 warnings?

My feelings are NOT hurt.. I just give up I want to edit but I don't have full time to take crap over the efforts I start to put out there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdnonmars (talk • contribs) 13:10, March 5, 2008

Mcmlxxviii
It was 55 hours. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Partners of the Americas wiki is considered for deletion
Dear Cobaltbluetony,

I created the article on partners of the americas and I believe that as an organization that has promoted development and cultural exchange thorughout the Americas for that last 40 years, an entry in Wikipedia was timely. I saw many other NGO's, such as Kiva.org, Finca International, etc, who have entries that are informative and present over views of their achievements, history, etc. Being my first wiki, I understand how I might have not provided sufficient references, or links within wiki to the organization. However, I would hope that as a starter entry, I could provide the skeleton for others to add to the entry, since there wasn't an entry to begin with.

I trust that as a NGO that promotes cooperation, it won't be deleted for having been created by a person that is slightly biased to the positive impact that it has achieved.

68.165.164.82 (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Help
I see your comments on history of Virginia Spencer Carr page... I agree, how do I prevent it from being deleted.

And how will I check your response...lol... sorry...

I don't even see the tag in the "edit" section to but the hangon info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carsonmc (talk • contribs) 18:15, March 5, 2008

I see the tag was removed. Thanks. More info. will be added, soon. Carsonmc (talk) 23:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message on my talk page. I'm new to all of this and just trying to get my bearings. Thanks. Cheers Carsonmc (talk) 23:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

User warnings
Hi thanks for your message. I do put the warning on for articles where it seems to be a good faith edit (though I do also forget some times). ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 23:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Please dont remove speedy tags on articles, add on the article page, and explain in the talk page why you think it souldent be deleted.  N i  m i  T  i  z  e  23:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ASSUME GOOD FAINT is the question for you, the article is made without periods some sentence's don't even make sense.  N i  m i  T  i  z  e  23:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't simply go on Special:Newpages and place speedy's on anything I dont think sould be there. I read through the guidelines and polices of Wiki, and see if this sould be here.  N i  m i  T  i  z  e  23:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why'd you redirect me their, you know that your not a "newcomer" with all this on your talk page, and by the way am very friendly to others, am mabye having WikiStress.  N i  m i  T  i  z  e  23:53, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Am stressed but its worth it helping out my buddies in The Kliq and what so, but am on a Wikibreak, if you look at my userpage, its just that I have lots of work to do.  N i  m i  T  i  z  e  01:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not biting anyone
Hi, Tony. I try to be nice to everyone, but it's apparent that this individual isn't trying to contribute in a meaningful manner. S/he continued to add nonsense and tried to contest it as well. So, I dropped a standard warning notice. If you really feel that I bit too hard, then I apologize. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Cobaltbluetony, thanks for your help on the Virginia Spencer Carr page. Best! Carsonmc (talk) 01:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Dixon (god)
Blatant hoaxes may be marked with a g3 (vandalism) tag. --Blanchardb- Me • MyEars • MyMouth -timed 01:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Taylor Carter
I was about to say, I have nominated it for deletion because the user removed the prod tag. -- Roleplayer (talk) 01:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I did, using WP:TWINKLE, but because you had edited the page in between me pressing the button and saving the page it cancelled out my nomination on the page itself. -- Roleplayer (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Awwwww thank you. Note that the afd nom has been removed and the discussion page blanked once already so far..... -- Roleplayer (talk) 01:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Comical denial complex of the vandal editors
Thank you for reverting that remark on my talk page. I have factored it back in because I actually found it quite comical - do you think the user in question has something to hide? -- Roleplayer (talk) 20:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Spreading the love
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

Roleplayer (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

How's the holiday going? -- Roleplayer (talk) 18:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

'holiday mojo'
Thanks - will run that one down as well. Cheers, MCB (talk) 07:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

You can't get the wood you know
It was a catchphrase from the 1950s UK radio program The Goon Show. Listed at The Goon Show running jokes. My dad was a big fan of the show and I have several episodes. It was, in a way, the forerunner to Monty Python. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 15:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * the shows are funny but a lot of the jokes can be missed unless you have a guide. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 15:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hi! --Duennschiss (talk) 16:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

What's my link?
Looking back I can see it was because I created the Off White page. However, I don't own the album, never have. (or any of Merzbow's, for that matter.) All I know about no wave is a memory of a song heard on the radio in 1979 that had saxophone and woman's voice... which I learned was by James White and the Blacks. One of these days I'll actually get the album. Maybe. Fantailfan (talk) 16:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Always interested in the Project, but I have no "depth" in noise/nowave/merz... sorry. --Fantailfan (talk) 17:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Merzbow
Hi Cobaltbluetony, I'm afraid I'm not really familiar with Merzbow. You might want to try dropping a note at Wikipedia talk:Notability (music) — someone there may be able to help. -- Beloved Freak  18:39, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Not familiar enough with his work to be too helpful but I can tell you that he really is that important (and prolific), also some of his pieces are quite long so a short track listing is not indicative of a short album. I don't think that every release deserves its own article but within the context of a discography, they should be included. Hope this helps. — Hello, Control <sup style="color:#FF0000;">Hello, Tony  19:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Ritch Winter
I saw the comment and was in the process of responding when the AfD was closed. I called it as I saw it, when a user called "Tschockey" writes an overly flowery article about the founder of The Sports Corporation, a hockey agency, it is a mighty obvious WP:COI red flag. I'll consider leaving those statements out of comments in the future, however, regardless of the likelyhood. Regards, Resolute 19:47, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

C & C Market Research
Hiya - saw your note on the talk page too late - I've restored the article and placed an under construction tag on it. Pedro : Chat  13:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Talk restored! Pedro : Chat  13:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * A valiant effort. AfD is the best route . I see you've proded. Good stuff. Pedro : Chat  13:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently I've hurt the s.p.a.'s feelings. I won't pretend to be heartbroken, although I was as polite as I could be. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Blanked Article
Sorry, I didn't notice that it was actually the author that blanked the page, I figured it was just some routine vandalism. I'll be a little more observant in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Templarion1 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Universal Core
It was obviously cut and pasted from somewhere, so I just picked a choice phrase from the bullet points. Sometimes creators will reword the beginning of copyvio stuff, but they don't usually do the whole article, so pick something from the middle or the end. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 16:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Bailey Willis

 * Sorry if I offended you by making a couple of edits but I only edited for grammar and incorrect internal links and not content. Paste (talk) 18:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You've lost me now, why have you removed correct external links, removed correct date of birth, reverted correct grammar changes, correct category etc etc? All done after you stated you were done! Paste (talk) 18:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Jonathon Lee
Thanks for the help! I don't yet understand how to make the summary. What else can I do to improve the notability of the article that I created? Thanks!

Kerfuffle4 (talk) 20:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)Kerfuffle4

Thanks
Hi, thanks for your message, no idea why I did that! ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 20:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Slave New World
as I indicated in my vote, if the song had charted, my vote would have been keep. But since the song didn't chart, it fails WP:MUSIC for that. It is my personal opinion that having a music video is notable, but not notable enough for inclusion in the 'Pedia since the song itself failed to chart. ArcAngel (talk) 14:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, someone else nailed it while I was off-line Jimfbleak (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

C & C Market Research
We probably ought to let this AFD run its 5 day course. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 21:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Deo Volente
Hi Cobaltbluetony, have you received 2007 Watchtower Library? Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 04:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Proper target for Template:db-bio
I've started a discussion at Template talk:db-bio about the proper target for the redirect db-bio. Since you changed it, I think you should be involved in that discussion. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism of my user page
Thanks for reverting! -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  12:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Specifics
Please be more specific about your comments to the Futurekids page. The page describes the company and its role in educational software and is similar to many other pages, including those of its partner companies with Wiki pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SIWC (talk • contribs) 19:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the welcome message. Sally Anne (talk) 20:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Megaselia scalaris
Hi there, and thanks for your message. I have to say, I don't see a problem with this new article at present. There is quite a bit in it that is common to many members of Phoridae, but the editor does seem to be drawing out the differences (eg. "however, Megaselia scalaris is an omnivorous species"). The article does need wikifying, categorising and a spell check, but its creator is new. This seems to be part of a classroom exercise (School and university projects/ENTO 431) to produce quality content. I would definitely suggest letting things run their course and see what transpires. Hope this helps, &mdash; BillC talk 21:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Yarbitrage
Sorry, it's just that I have been finding far more crazy articles this morning than I am used to, and I was getting tired of it. I think I'll take a break for a few minutes and recharge. J.d ela noy <sup style="color:red;">gabs <sub style="color:blue;">adds 15:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your message. It was a mistake not a matter of reviewing what nonsense is, but thanks anyway and I will ensure that the correct notices are placed in future. Perhaps db-context applies. Have fun. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 16:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Positive Discipline
The system is used in over 100 UK schools and probably more besides. I have deleted the prod template (am I allowed?) and I apologise if I didn't make myself clear enough on the talk page. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000">George D. Watson  (Dendodge). Talk Help 17:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Languages
Hi mate. Sorry to say I don't speak a word of any of the Czech/Slovak languages, but yes I have done much work on Slovakia and more recently Slovenia. I would speak to User:Darwinek, User:MarkBA or User:Eleassar. It looks like Slovak but I'm not sure. If so speak to User:MarkBA or User:Tankred. Cheers  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Peter Maddocks
Thanks for the help on Peter Maddocks. Paste (talk) 18:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The Jets Page
$$Insert formula here$$Thanksfor adding to the page I started. That was my first stab at it and was struggling a bit. Mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jovialmonk (talk • contribs) 11:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
I think you're ready. Want to get it started in the next day or so? Regards, Rudget . 17:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I can find the diffs for you if you like, it always helps. I've just been looking at this - how come it wasn't put to RFA? Rudget . 14:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you have the time to go through RFA now? If not, we can always postpone it. Rudget . 15:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Should I delete the old RFA? From there we can start the new one, since the first one didn't go live, it'll look like you've had one already when you've actually had one. :P Rudget . 15:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll start it now, I just had to do something. Rudget . 15:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Your name is definitely Tony right? :) Rudget . 17:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Right-o. :) Start preparing the answers. Are you transcluding when we're finished? Rudget . 17:37, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You might want to de-bold and reword that comment in #3. :) Rudget . 18:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing. Doesn't matter. :) Rudget . 18:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Not yet. Are you doing it? Rudget . 18:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you want me to? ;)  Rudget . 18:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You have to wait for people to pass by, otherwise you run the risk of invoking WP:CANVASS (which people will oppose for) Rudget . 18:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

canine gastropexy
Thanks for fixing/redirecting the entry. I still think we should note in the lead sentence that there is an alternative spelling because if you look at the references on the article, it is spelled a couple of different ways in the article. I'll double check that the word in the references is correct as well. Thanks, Renee Renee (talk) 15:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, you're absolutely correct. I wrote this on the discussion page but the problem seems to be the university search engine which listed it was an "l" whereas the actual retrieved articles were gastropexy only.  Also, I note that colloquially veterinarian websites, like this include the l, but I think it is more correct without.  I notice that in some articles, like the one on Great Dane, they spell it "gastroplexy," so perhaps in the dog breed books they sell it that way.  I don't know how to do it but can you set up a redirect for "gastroplexy" so that those who spell it both ways get to this site?  Thanks, Renee  Renee (talk) 15:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * nevermind! You've already done it. Thanks!  Renee (talk) 15:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
It appears my user page has been keeping you busy this morning. Thanks for all the help. Toddst1 (talk) 16:57, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Daniel Peyer
all i saw was album names, didn't even think that was notability. will learn, cheers! ninety:one 17:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Just had to say that your edit summary "I'll tackle this" made me smile! Have fun! ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 17:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Email
You're getting one soon. Rudget . 13:21, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The neutral became a support, after a clarification. Rudget . 14:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know, you've got an oppose in your RFA. Rudget . 16:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

CsD Deletion - Nonsense.
Thank you for the clarification. I thought the nonsense tag covered a broader range. I will be more clear with the CsD nomination tags in future... --Eastlygod (talk) 16:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Stephen King (soccer)
Hi Tony. The fact that King appears in the club's squad list is irrelevant - the WP:BIO criteria is that he must have actually played a competitive game for them. Until he does so, for all we know he may get a career-ending injury and never play (and to predict that he will definitely play would be a violation of WP:CRYSTAL). Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  16:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I can only go on what contact we have had, and I believe you have made a bit of a misjudgement on the WP:BIO issue. The fact that we disagree is not the issue (I have supported candidates who I have had debates with in the past because the issues on which we disagreed were not fundamental policy ones), and I feel that if anything, criticising me for airing a legitimate concern is bad faith. There is no tactic in my !voting; I waited until it was clear you wouldn't change your mind on the AfD before making my comment - I certainly wasn't doing it to make you change your vote. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  17:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It only takes a couple of clicks to get the article restored (which I can do as an admin if someone notifies me), and as I replied to another comment, any comment on how long we wait before the article is deleted/restored is just WP:CRYSTAL balling. It's clear that you're a good editor and that my !vote was not going to stop your RfA from being successful, but I do think you need to heed WP:BIO a little more - it's one of the most fundamental notability policies we have, and ignoring it could lead to chaos; if that's all my vote does then I'll be happy. Good luck, пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  17:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That doesn't make them right, and it's not a vote. I've seen AfDs closed by admins against the majority vote because the minority voting one way cited policy, whereas the majority didn't. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  20:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sexty
Maybe not, but removing all of the templates on the page for no reason is. Sceptre (talk) 19:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Sorry for being a little heated during the debate for AfD: Stephen King (soccer). I felt the way the overwhelming majority feel about the issue and lost my cool. Thanks for the support in defending it though, I do appreciate it. Jrcla2 (talk) 05:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Sue Moorcroft
I've removed the speedy tag, because there's at least assertions of notability. I suggest AfD. Thanks for tagging. --Dweller (talk) 14:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That whole Extreme bunch of stuff is spam city and needs some attention. --Dweller (talk) 17:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Me neither. But check this out. And I've no time to deal with the EL issues on that page tonight. See ya tomorrow. --Dweller (talk) 17:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Minnesota Throughbreds AFC
Sorry, I didn't realize that was two votes, since they were both votes from me and I signed both of them. Limasbravo (talk) 18:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Jonathan Emile
Just wondering if you did the research about this artist. He is growing significantly in Canada. I'm not sure why you would need to delete it. Or suggest that it is biased. There is no rhetoric in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whorldwind (talk • contribs) 19:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the CTV news item (even though it's on YouTube) is an indep. indication of notability sufficient to avoid speedy deletion. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 19:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Stephen King
Does my "What if?" at the AfD do anything to change your mind? --Dweller (talk) 15:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess I differ on this point. Elton John's notable whether or not his next album is released. Jonny Nobody isn't notable yet and I'd speedy him until his album does appear. But I'd better understand a decision not to speedy that because the album has been recorded and even if he drops dead can still be released (might even do better! :-) ) I can't tell you how many reserve team players from football with bags of talent never make an appearance for one reason or another. This is a real, live issue that the football WikiProject takes very seriously. For example, if you look in my userspace, you'll find User:Dweller/Luke Daley. I've been waiting to move it into mainspace since the Norwich manager teased us all by putting him on the bench. It's quite possible he'll never play a minute of a notable match. Until then, he's not notable. When it happens... well, I'll move it on into mainspace. --Dweller (talk) 16:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and Template:Norwich City F.C. squad has redlinks for this very reason. As do the templates for most clubs - even the big, rich ones. --Dweller (talk) 16:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * See number 47 on Template:Manchester United F.C. squad --Dweller (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes... in this case, the musician isn't notable. :-) Yet. -Dweller (talk) 16:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

OIC. Have they promised he'll start a particular game? Which one? Sounds a daft thing to do... how do they know he won't fall down and break his legs before then? --Dweller (talk) 16:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Patent nonsense on Shindiggler
<Removed quoted text from WP:CSD. Takes up to much space>


 * Well, i already knew that entire text you have quoted, as my work as a vandalism patrol regularly causes me to have to look up some specific cases :). Since the article is already removed i have no possibility to determine why i issued a CSD G1 warning. It Might be related to the fact that i tag articles with a G1 par WP:Snow every now and then since running it trough WP:AFD would take up a lot of useless time, and WP:PROD is already on a long enough backlog as is. Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 17:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm concerned about the overuse of the patent nonsense clause on items which frankly aren't given a snowball's chance in hell to be proven if they wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of surviving as an article, or at least if there were any salvageable data in them. In my opinon it's overused, if not abused, as an easy out -- even when so many of the items fall under WP:SNOW anyway.
 * I'd like, then, to propose a new speedy category, that of "hopelessly unverifiable information." It might technically require a user to Google a topic, but at least it would be a reasonable speedy category.  This could, properly worded, easily wipe out all articles started by students about their favorite place to smoke, or their really cool bike, or stuff like that:
 * This page may meet the criteria for speedy deletion because appears to be made-up information which has no hope of ever being proven in any verifiable way. (See CSD R13.)
 * Thoughts? - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Personally i would wholeheartedly support the move to add such a category to the available CSD templates. Personally i refer to the WP:SNOW guideline quite a bit(Perhaps slightly abuse at times), since at times its almost certain thats its a shortcut to the same result. Once i had to start an entire AFD for an article that contained a made up word invented by some friends. They actually sourced it with *.tripod.com sites, and at that time my CSD 1, nonsense was rejected because it was not patent nonsense. The admin that rejected it even claimed that it had no chance whatsoever in an AFD, but it should still be run. (Not blaming the admin, rather the rules). Result? 10 minutes work to start the AFD, and it was a 12-0 delete vote.


 * Adding a category such as the one you would prevent some SNOW abuse, and would nicely fill that empty gap in the ruling. Personally i would change the text a little bit to make it a bit more general:


 * This page may meet the criteria for speedy deletion because the articles current shape would require such substantional editing that its unlikely to be encyclopedic without a complete rewrite(See CSD R13.)


 * Perhaps this is a little to general, but it could be used to cover articles in such a bad condition that a complete rewrite is the only solution. Might be tough to get clear ruling on it, so it might be wiser to suggest your line instead of it. When you do, please give me a call, so i can come over to support it! :) Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 18:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks!
I have to make a contribution to wikipedia based on the reading for the my Theo 10001 class; I'm an English/Psychology major, so theology isn't one of my strong points. Also, I've never posted on wikipedia before. Thanks for the help!!

thanks!
I have to make a contribution to wikipedia based on the reading for the my Theo 10001 class; I'm an English/Psychology major, so theology isn't one of my strong points. Also, I've never posted on wikipedia before. Thanks for the help!! Herooftommorrow (talk) 18:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Table
I just ran across a table you placed on a talk page for another use (oops, closed the page already) and have borrowed it for my user page with credit to you. I need to clean up my page a little due to formatting problems, but thought you might want to know that I'm using your work product. Thanks for putting it together.--CheMechanical (talk) 20:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: The wall
Guh...whoops. Thought it was another page blanker. I have a hairline trigger when it comes to those. I apologize for the inconvenience.  21 <font color="#990000">6 55  τalk/ʃign 20:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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Article for deletion/Battlestar Wiki (3rd nom.)
The Battlestar Wiki aritlce has been nominated for deletion for the third time. Feel free to add your comments to the corresponding discussion.--DrWho42 (talk) 18:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Trichomes of cannabis
Man, you're fast. I was just looking up and you already had it up. Thanks!--Curtis Clark (talk) 14:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

April 1, 2008
Please stop turning this page into a redirect. This date may not exist yet in your particular timezone however it does in others. -Shogun (talk) 14:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA
Congratulations, I'm pleased to let you know that I've closed your RfA as successful, and you're now an administrator! May I suggest you visit the New admin school to get a few ideas on the best way to start using your shiny new buttons? If in doubt, feel free to give me a shout! Well done and all the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 17:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hearty congratulations to you, and let me know if I can ever be of assistance. --John (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course, you're welcome! Well done once again, and good luck with everything.  The Rambling Man (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Of course! You did well, better than me in fact! ;) I don't need to tell you what to do, I am sure that you already know. But incase you do ever need anything, you know where I am. Regards, Rudget . 17:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! What am I going to do now that I don't have to delete all those articles you marked for speedy deletion? ;)  Welcome to the team.  NawlinWiki (talk) 17:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Congratulations from me too - well deserved. Deb (talk) 17:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * RfA congratulations. I sincerely hope that the common sense we saw at Stephen King (soccer) is an example of how you will work as an admin! Best luck with the mop! Alansohn (talk) 18:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats, I know you will use the tools well... and now you can stop asking me to do admin related duties for you (not that i mind) ;). Cheers, Tiptoety  talk 18:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations as well ... it was a long time coming. Agathoclea (talk) 19:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

User:Fiendish William
I saw your block, great job. Personally, I think he should be blocked indefinitely; judging from his talk page all he's done is vandalized. Opinion? Cheers, Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#777">Call me MoP! :)  17:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sounds good, as long as he either shapes up or doesn't do anymore damage. Keep up the great work, Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#777">Call me MoP! :)  17:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Congrats on your RfA, by the way! Don't forget to substitute that template! ;) Cheers, Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#777">Call me MoP! :)  18:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That's alright, I'm going around substing those you forgot to. It isn't a must, of course, it just helps the server's loads and also makes vandalism trickier. Master of Puppets  <sub style="color:#777">Call me MoP! :)  18:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The block notice has no units on it. i presume 48 hours? Britmax (talk) 18:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou
Cheers for the message, I have failed to receive messages from many an admin I supported at RfA, it's nice to see that you are polite enough to thank those that did not support you and that your new powers have not made you want to avoid talking to wikiproles! Good luck <font color="#FF0000">English <font color="#66CCFF">peasant  18:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice sentiment, but the wikiclass system can't really be ignored. Did you see what happened to that ordinary editor that put himself in (before it got deleted). The wikilords blocked him for ignoring the class system! Regards <font color="#FF0000">English  <font color="#66CCFF">peasant  19:05, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, even though I opposed, congratulations on your success. Hope you enjoy the wonderful comments you get after cleaning up at CAT:CSD :) пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  22:00, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Blocking
Hey there, just a few pointers (though I am sure you do not need them), before blocking IP's you might want to run a WHOIS, because this IP which you blocked for 48 hours is in fact a shared IP and as it is their first block may have been a better idea to have gone with 24 hours. Like I said, you are doing fine. We can all do with a little learning though :) Tiptoety  talk 18:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Kappa Sigma at the University of Kansas
Could you re-delete Kappa Sigma at the University of Kansas? It appears that my redirect happened just as you deleted it, and my edit recreated the page. <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  19:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :)  <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix  talk  20:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar notice
I've awarded you a barnstar for your help and work at speedy deletion and new page patrol. Stifle (talk) 19:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Your question
Narrow it down for me a bit....! Which user are you talking about? GBT/C 20:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone whose first edit includes the phrase "P.S. I LOVE 2 FUCK CHICKENS" isn't getting off to the most auspicious of starts, and is clearly not here to contribute to the encyclopaedia. Their second and third edits, despite being warned, confirmed that they clearly have no intention to contribute to the encyclopaedia, in my view. GBT/C 20:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, and congrats on the mop. Feel free to shout if I can be of any further help. GBT/C 20:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Mistaken speedy tag
I think I added a speedy tag to a page just as you changed it to a redirect, so Twinkle mistakenly gave you a notification instead of the original editor - sorry about that! Eve (talk) 22:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Question
Hey, there. Just wondering why you deleted this article per G4? Tiptoety talk 22:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * G4 is for recreation of material that was deleted through an WP:AFD, not just any old speedy. Tiptoety  talk 22:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Umm...erm...uh...yeah, it is called G1-nonsense, maybe you should take another look over WP:SPEEDY, but just because you do not like the article does not mean you can delete it for what ever reason you want. Please understand I am not arguing that the article was any good, I deleted it myself, I just wanted to make sure you where aware that G4 is only for articles deleted through WP:AFD. Tiptoety  talk 22:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, you are right, it is G3 then, "This includes blatant and obvious hoaxes and misinformation, and redirects created by cleanup from page-move vandalism.". I guess I should have been more specific, just G1 and G3 are so close. Either way, I just though I should let you know about the G4 thing, I was not wanting to get into a debate about an article. Cheers, Tiptoety  talk 22:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Picture
Hehe, I recognise that cat :D <font color="FF69B4">Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 23:57, 31 March 2008 (UTC)