User talk:Codemartin

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To quote you: "Wikipedia isn't here to put down anyone's particular "truth". If FSM makes you happy, great for you. But in creating FSM, Bobby Henderson intended it as a parody. The fact that you have chosen to take it seriously, or that some people you have known have chosen to take it seriously, is irrelevant to what FSM was intended for. If enough people took FSM seriously as a religion - and if we had a reliable, outside source on that number - then those who take FSM seriously could indeed be noted, though of course the parody's original purpose would still be notable and included. Kasreyn 04:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC) "

I chose not to bring this in the discussion board as it is leaving the area of the FSM and going someplace else. Anyway, what would you consider an reliable outside source? A list of signutures mailed to you? Perhaps people puting down FSM on the religion part of a survey. The national surveys are every how many years? Anyway I just wnated to know what you would consider a reliable outside source. I am just curious not attacking, you just curious. --Codemartin 13:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd say if a reputable source, examples of which might include but certainlt not be limited to a paper like the NYT or Washington Post, or a magazine like Time, or a reputable news program like CNN or NPR, reported on people taking FSM seriously as a true religion, that would definitely be a good source. Lists of signatures collected by Wikipedia editors are generally not considered reliable, since it's too easy for them to be faked up.

I believe in America, the census is taken once per decade, and if I remember correctly from the last time a census taker interviewed me, I think religion is a question that is asked. However, I think they simply have four or five boxes for the major religions and they lump everything else under "other". Most surveys do this, rather than tracking numbers for every unexpected answer. So in general surveys are pretty bad at tracking the popularity of minority religions, atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, and so on, because they all get lumped together under "other".

As an aside, I found it very amusing that a few years back down under, some good citizens organized and got "Jedi" officially added to the Australian census as a religious persuasion. This requires simply a minimum percentage of people choosing the same answer, and the Australian government is forced to add to religion to the other official categories. A splendid example of beating the system! Kasreyn 21:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

To the paper comment, you can pay the paper to put an article in it shouldnt cost more than 300 dollars, and I am sure FSMism followers could raise the money for it.Lists I understand it was just an example. The census thing, thats true but there is a couple of censuses(censi?) out there that have a line instead of a bubble sheet or check mark, where you can right out the other religion. And I heard that example before, but I am not sure the americain govermatal system, would be a open minded for it, as you may have noticed they seemingly dont like to change. --Codemartin 21:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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