User talk:Codexerxes~enwiki

December 2008
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Jens Munk page edits
Hi. Do you have a source for the statement you made concerning Jens Munk leading whaling expeditions to Spitsbergen from 1615 to 1618? I'm afraid you're in error here, as no Danish whaling expeditions were sent to Spitsbergen in 1615 or 1616 (some were sent to North Norway, though), and I don't believe he participated in the first whaling expedition sent there in 1617 or in the second in 1618. Jonas Poole (talk) 22:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

My source is mainly "Captien Jens Munckes Livs og Levneds Beskivelse" published in Copenhagen in 1723 by an anonymous author based on Jens Munk's own writings, which in parts are lost to day. This book also includes Munk's "Navigatio Septentrionalis" from 1624. In addition to this come custom protcols from Helsingore from this period. These sources do not say that Jens Munk himsself participated in the whaling expeditions to Spitsbergen in any of the years mentioned. He did not, for reasons I will soon explain. What these sources do say, however, is that Jens Munk was partner to Copenhagen's Lord Mayor, Mikkel Vibe, who sent out his first expedition in 1616 to Northern Norway, and that it was Munk who took the initiative to this expedition, organized it and also invested a lot of money in it. The background is as follows: In May 1615 king Christian IV sent out Munk and the noble man Jorgen Daa to hunt the privateer Juan Mendoza. On their way back, after having arrested Mendoza in the White Sea, they met with a Basque expedition in Laksefjorden at the Finnmark coast of Northern Norway. Munk and Daa also discovered that the Basques had built a cookery on the shores at a place called Tømmervika in Laksefjorden. The Basque ships and all their goods were arrested and brought to Copenhagen together with some of the crew. However, before returning to Copenhagen Munk stayed with the Basques in Laksefjorden for a while to finish the processing of the whales, and he seems to have got on friendly terms with their leader, Jan Haraneder. Munk learnt a lot about whaling from the Basques and it inspired him to organize a whaling expedition the following year. After returning to Copenhagen Munk shares his plan with the Lord Mayor Mikkel Vibe, the wealthiest man in Danemark at the time. Munk buys his own ship and hire a Norwegian called Hans Trondhjem as captain. Trondhjem departs Copenhagen in 1616 as part of Mikkel Vibe's expedition. The sources tell that Mikkel Vibe's expedition sailed with Basque crew, which probably were the same men who Munk arrested in Finnmark the year before and who had stayed in Copenhagen over the winter. The reason why Munk did not participate himself in this expedition is that the king ordered him to take part in another hunt for privateers the same summer. After having returned in September 1616, Munk resigns from his post in the Royal Navy and leaves for France and Spain to hire crew for another whaling expedition the following year, the Spitsbergen expedition in 1617. In Spain he meets again with Jan Haraneder, who cannot help him with men, but who advices him to go to Bordeaux. Here Munks succeeds in hiring some men which he transports to Amsterdam in May 1617 and soon after to Copenhagen. Munk did not participate in this expedition either or the one in 1618, but he was the brain behind them. The reason why Munk did not sail out on the hunting fields himself, is that from 1617 he got deeply involved in the founding of the Danish East Indian Company which took most of his time. In February 1618 the king appointed Munk as leader for the first East Indian expedition, but one month before the depart in November 1618 the king withdrew the appointment and replaced Munk with the young noble man Ove Gjedde. The reason for this is unsure, but one plausible explanation might be that Munk seems to have lost all his money on the unsuccessful expedition to Spitsbergen in 1618, also resulting in controversies with Mikkel Vibe. With his money lost and without the support of the influential Mikkel Vibe, who also had invested in the East Indian expedition, Munk could not defend his position as leader for the highly prestigious expedition to East India.

Codexerxes (talk) 11:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)Olav Rune Ekeland Bastrup, 2. Jan 2009

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