User talk:Coffee0112

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Happy editing! I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 03:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your welcome! I appreciate it a lot. It's been a challenge with editing content as I'm still new to the site, but I'm trying to find the balance you guys are looking for. Coffee0112 (talk) 03:58, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, I'd like to ask for help. How do I go about making edits for url references? I've spotted a couple that are out of date and want to check on how to go about it. Is that considered a minor edit when I update the reference link? Thanks. Coffee0112 (talk) 08:53, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

August 2022
Hello Coffee0112. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Coffee0112. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. MrOllie (talk) 11:35, 29 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi yes, sorry I'm still new to Wikipedia and figuring out the editing space. This is not a paid advocacy. I'm a first year Law student and not affiliated with ADB. But I am highly interested in topics pertaining to Asia and the Pacific and international relations. Do you have any advice on how I can make my edits better? I'd really appreciate it. The edits I made, I took from following content being done by FAO, the UN and other international organizations. So please let me know how I can make my edits more neutral. Coffee0112 (talk) 11:57, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Please note that all the edits I made are taken from ADB itself, such as references to publications and text from their website itself. Coffee0112 (talk) 11:59, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Copying text like that is a copyright violation. WP:COPYVIO. Never do that again. MrOllie (talk) 12:28, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Text was not copied word for word but re-worded and edited to sound less "business-like" and more straight to the point. I added in all the necessary references as well, to show the original text for where it was taken. Coffee0112 (talk) 12:31, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This goes for all the edits I made, particularly on the ADB Wikipedia page. Since ADB updated their focus areas to not just 5 areas but it is now at 18. So content on the page is very much outdated. Coffee0112 (talk) 12:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * What you added was pretty non neutral which is often the case when you use an organization as a source for itself. Wikipedia should not be written based on what organizations have to say about themselves, but rather what independent third parties have to say. MrOllie (talk) 16:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I understand. Do you have best practices samples for how I can best reword them? Coffee0112 (talk) 02:16, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It is generally better to not try to reword selfpublished sources, you should be finding independent citations and basing the content on what they say. MrOllie (talk) 02:27, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright, thank you. I'll fix the text I previously made. I appreciate the advice. Coffee0112 (talk) 02:40, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, if I find dead page links to references. Will I be able to fix them? Coffee0112 (talk) 02:42, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Adding more promoish content sourced to their own website is not fixing anything. MrOllie (talk) 03:26, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I'm linking to the ADB website itself with factual updated information. I see that FAO did the same for the Agriculture in the Philippines page. The reference used was the FAO website itself. Coffee0112 (talk) 03:32, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * As well as the content I put for the ADB Wikipedia page. It's updating the outdated number of focus areas of ADB, which they've now raised to 18. So I'm really not sure what I'm doing wrong. Coffee0112 (talk) 03:34, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The FAO was used for an attributed claim about local policy. What you added was purely a mention of the ADB for the sake of mentioning the ADB. What you're doing wrong is consistently making additions of low-content mentions of this organisation across multiple articles. Whatever your motivation might be, what you're doing is using Wikipedia as a promotional vehicle, and that is not what this site is for. MrOllie (talk) 03:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm only trying to put updated information that I find online. And spotting some of the pages here that have outdated content. So how can I best fix this? Say for example, the one about the 18 Focus Areas of ADB? I'm not quite sure what exactly was wrong with the sentence. Can you help me out? "ADB has 18 key development issues for operations in Asia and the Pacific." and then I referenced to https://www.adb.org/what-we-do/development-issues. Coffee0112 (talk) 03:53, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi MrOllie, can I ask why my updates on the ADB Wikipedia page was removed? I don't understand what was wrong with what I put since it merely outlined the development issues of ADB? Coffee0112 (talk) 04:00, 22 September 2022 (UTC)