User talk:Colin Coates

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--Colin Coates (talk) 09:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Colin Coates! Thank you for your contributions. I am SchreiberBike and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Questions or type at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes ( ~ ); that will automatically produce your username and the date. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨ 04:00, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
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List of birds of Thailand
Hello, Colin. You've been adding species to the List of birds of Thailand, apparently to conform to the April 2019 Bird Checklists of the World (Avibase) list. Or are you using some other source? The updates are commendable. However, you've left the citation as the older February 2018 version of Avibase and haven't updated the counts of species in the text. Please make these additional edits so the article is fully up to date and accurate. (You've also marked your additions as minor edits, which they are not.) Thank you. Craigthebirder (talk) 10:39, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Craig. My apology for not contacting you sooner which I would have done earlier had I been able to understand the using Talk Pages (which even now I still do not). I wanted to explain that my main objective in getting involved in the List of birds of Thailand project was to update the Thai version to comply with Clement's version 2018. That was a prerequisite in my view for stimulating potential Thai editors to further develop it to show pop-ups and captions of the individual birds (maybe using stubs created from the English version), and eventually gradually translating the detailed information available in the English Version (over optimistic may be!). The pop-ups alone would make it a website that could be used in schools to educate Thai children to appreciate the amazing beauty of the nature in Thailand and to encourage them to fight for its preservation. The benefit to developers in the alignment of the English and Thai versions according to Clements,version 2018 is that future updates can be managed as an international team effort. It has never been my intention to develop the English version (as it was my benchmark in developing the Thai system), and the only changes that I have made have been motivated in aligning the two versions. I apologize for the confusion that my activity may have caused you, and hope this message will lead to effective cooperation in the future. I will respond to your earlier comment when you confirm that you have received my first message sent on WikiTalk.

Colin Coates (talk) 13:39, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, Colin. I got nothing through WikiTalk (maybe it's still percolating through the system - I just happened to check my Watchlist now). Anyway, glad that you're going to complete the corrections to what I missed when I thought I had brought the article up to 2018 Clements, plus the update to a more recent list than the previous 2/2018 Avibase one. Very commendable motive. I wouldn't cite Clements for distribution, however, but would use the most recent version of Avibase. FYI, the Thailand list is one of several national lists which I'll be updating to the 2019 Clements taxonomy when it's published, unless you beat me to it. If you do, be sure to update the reference. Craigthebirder (talk) 14:23, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi Craig. I have now updated the list up to 2019-4-18. I wasn't sure how to update the List's Status field when the AVI field has the value Rare/Accidental. In such cases, it may be best to enter Rare/Accidental to indicate that the status is temporary. If you agree with that solution, I will update the status of the species recently added to the List. I assume that the statistics in the introduction will not be updated until the next Avi review is completed. The date for the last review could however be amended to 2018-07-01. The number of globally threatened species breaks down as follows: Critically Endangered 13, Endangered 21, Vulnerable (not recorded) 37. Must now get back to updating the Thai version to match the English. Am really struggling to finish the job, as I need a Thai person to translate recently added index names plus the text introducing the corresponding families. If you know of anyone who might be willing to help please let me know.

Colin Coates (talk) 11:52, 22 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Quite a task you've taken on. Use "Accidental" in the table for the status which Avibase calls rare/accidental - see the last paragraph of the intro. To complete the (English-language) project you need to update the species count from 1057 to whatever it is now, update the count of globally threatened species, update the Avibase reference date to 4/18/19 and the retrieved date to whenever you downloaded that list, and update the "Use British English|date=August 2018" to May 2019. Best wishes. Craigthebirder (talk) 22:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)