User talk:Collaborative Reporting

December 2022
 Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of username and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text  at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must: Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text  at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:47, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

Note that "paid editing" is not limited to specific payment for edits or instructions to edit; any paid relationship triggers the disclosure requirement. This includes mere employment. What is your association with this organization? What edits do you intend to make if unblocked? 331dot (talk) 11:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi 331dot
 * Thanks for this extra information. I am currently employed by CROSS Collaborative Reporting for Safer Structures which is a not for profit organization which solely exists to publish safety information and allow professionals to make anonymous safety reports. It is very important to those involved in the design and construction of buildings and structures.
 * The prominence and importance of the organization rose after the Grenfell fire tragedy.
 * Thanks
 * Charlie Collaborative Reporting (talk) 11:44, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi there 331dot
 * Can I ask then how a page about an organisation is created?
 * For example there are many pages on not-for-profit and membership organisations that are listed on Wikipedia?
 * Thanks
 * Charlie Collaborative Reporting (talk) 12:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * We don't have "pages" by, and for the benefit of, organizations and/or their causes. We have articles about organizations, that are typically written by independent editors without any involvement by, or even the knowledge of, the subject.  We don't draw a distinction between for profit and non profit organizations. An article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization and its importance, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization.  Materials like the organization website, press releases, announcements of its activities, interviews, and other primary sources do not establish notability.
 * If an article about your organization existed, it would not be for the benefit of the organization, and would not simply display the text the organization might prefer. Any information about it, good or bad, can be in an article as long as it appears in an independent source and is not defamatory. Please read WP:ORGFAQ. 331dot (talk) 12:12, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi 331dot
 * I have read the page about being a paid editor and having to disclose my employment by the organisation?
 * Can i therefore declare my employment with the organisation to create an article on CROSS for others to contribute to and edit? I can create a very basic article covering what other reliable sources have said about CROSS?
 * CROSS is itself mentioned on other wikipedia pages.
 * Thanks
 * Charlie Collaborative Reporting (talk) 12:16, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You must make the paid editing disclosure, that is mandatory. I think it is doubtful that you will be unblocked to edit about your organization, but if you think that you can convince another administrator that you can write as Wikipedia requires and submit a draft, you may make a new unblock request detailing how you will do that. Again, please understand that sources like announcements of the activities of the organization, interviews with staff/organization volunteers, brief mentions, and the like do not establish notability. You would need sources with significant coverage that go in depth about what they see as significant about your organization(not what your organization sees as significant about itself).  Please read the definition of a notable organization carefully.  331dot (talk) 12:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Typically, an article is written when an independent editor takes note of significant coverage in independent reliable sources and chooses on their own to write about it- orgnanizations trying to force the issue do not usually succeed, as they have trouble writing as Wikipedia requires, such as by setting aside everything they know about the organization and all materials it puts out. 331dot (talk) 12:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)