User talk:Colom1492

Columbus
I would like to have the possible reference to Christopher Columbus being Italian removed from the Columbus (Wik.) entry. This entry is historically ignorant. Italy did not officially beome a country until the city-states united in 1861 (Check the records). Therefore, Columbus could never have been Italian during his lifetime; unless of course Italy has a Grandfathering in Clause. To claim Columbus as Italian is as ignorant as calling someone American prior to the officail recognition of the USA as an official nation. For example, stupid people who think Paul Revere yelled, "The British are coming, the British are coming...!" It seems pretty logical to believe that the majority of the people living in the NE area would have considered themselves English before the American Revolution, therefore this Revere tidbit would have sounded pretty dumb. Logic tells me he would have said, "The Redcoats are coming," instead of the aforementioned.

No, it can refer to a geographical area rather than a country, it doesn't have to be a country to be referred to that way. The Romans called the whole island Britannia, or Great Britain, people refer to people from Asia as Asians even though there isn't a country named Asia. If they called the whole pennisula Italy (called Italia in ancient times/latin) including Genoa it doesn't have to be an established country. The snare (talk) 00:18, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

For accuracy purposes it might be worth cheking into whether Spain or more specifically Catalunya was actually in control of Genoa at the aprroximate time of Columbus' birth and death. This information would lead one to believe he was Spanish, or perhaps more specifically, Catalan, since the Catalans were the big sea power in and around Barcelona. If niether is the case, his nationality would have been Genoese and not Italian, Catalan or Spanish.

I'm tired of people (especially my fellow Americans) believing Columbus was Italian just because of the chance he was born in Genoa. It's ignorant and I'm not the only one who believes it is ignorant. I wrote to a Spanish consulate in a major city (I will not say where), and when I asked if the American view of Columbus was upsetting to him, he said in a nutshell, YES! He also said that he has felt this way since he took his position in the states and directly said- "I cannot change the minds of millions of willingly ignorant people," in reference to the Italian flags that are waived during Columbus Day parades across the USA. It's a complete joke, the rest of the world is laughimg, and we don't get it because most Americans (except the educated Americans on wordly affairs) are so ignorant and lazy.

For proof of the rest of the world seeing Americans' lack of knowledge,check out "Iberia" by James Michner, where there is a page of a Spaniard going off (use index to find page references) about how ignorant Americans are when it come to Columbus History. It's a little dated for some of today's readers, but it's to the point and will teach a lesson to challenge American coventional wisdom on Columbus (especially if it's wrong).

¡VIVA ESPAŇA! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Colom1492 (talk • contribs).

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