User talk:Coman, Raphael

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Dear Sir,

Thank you for your response. I accept your decision and understand the reason that you would have it in place. We are all concerned to keep a standard at Wikipedia. Let me know what you consider to be sufficiently noteworthy to be listed on Wikipedia. For instance, what have other accountants done to get themselves recognised.

In addition to being a chartered tax adviser, I have many years experience as a sole trader. This means I those issues surrounding a tax topic that are likely to be most commonly asked. What it is most likely most taxpayers are going to want to know. That derives from years of practical experience. I feel that my contribution in that sense deserve credit commensurate with its value. How do you propose attracting value to Wikipedia in this sense.

On a separate but partly related note, I have noticed certain errors on one or two of your pages related to tax. For instance on one page it suggests a benefit is taxable, however in most of the cases I have come across the benefit is not taxable. In the course of my business I would not usually contradict advice given by another accountant. I am in a position where I would not want to upset another accountant by deleting what they have written. How would you propose dealing with that type of situation? Would you prepare to personally moderate one such example I have found.

I will not try and pretend that I am not in the business of self-promotion, although this is solely for the purpose of furthering my business. Perhaps I am not noteworthy enough for an addition in the encyclopaedia but expect some kind of credit for brining my expertise to the improvement of the Wikipedia standard.


 * We can offer more specific help if you ask a more specific question, for example which page has an error? If you see a factual error on a page on a subject you are expert in, the simplest way to help fix it is to add a section to the article's talk page. Explain the nature of the problem and provide links to reference material which can help editors verify what you are saying. You can also edit the article directly, but please be familiar with our requirements for sourcing references. Unsourced changes are usually reverted out very quickly. --Salimfadhley (talk) 15:46, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_protection_insurance In the taxation section it states the the premiums are a "taxable benefit to the employee" however I do not believe this to be the case. I believe that to be misleading. This is an example of the sort of insight I can provide. I would therefore be interested if you could respond to the other aspects of my query above. I am especially interested in how Wiki can reciprocate my contribution with greater recognition for me as advisor and/or COman&Co - my firm- as a source of valuable UK tax guidance.
 * In this case the advice I gave you was correct. Please add a note to the article's talk page. Other editors will see this and update the article. --Salimfadhley (talk) 16:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I noticed that a large section of the wikipedia article unexpected disappeared when I revisited include the section on taxation that I took exception to. I have bosched out a new Taxation section which can be read in the link below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_protection_insurance Thanks for you help.

I conceded that I am not noteworthy enough for my own page, however I request brand recognition for my contribution in the form of reference to the coman and co site.
 * Unfortunately this change will need to be reverted. The references appear to be written by yourself, and therefore are not "independent" sources. Please familiarize yourself with the rules of Wikipedia before making changes, or if you do not have time for reading the rules just do what I suggested earlier: Suggest a change via the talk page. --Salimfadhley (talk) 23:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Please familiarize yourself with or rules before you edit
Raphael, Wikipedia is a complex community with many rules and guidelines which must be understood and followed. At the top of this page the editor who welcomed you to Wikipedia added some links to helpful documents which explain how Wikipedia works. You are strongly advised to read these before you try to edit again. I promise you, reading these documents will be a good use of your time because it will prevent wasted time. --Salimfadhley (talk) 23:38, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

You have just deleted a carefully written piece. Would you kindly provide me with the original copy? I intend to publish it elsewhere, a place where my expertise is valued.

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Coman, Raphael. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

If you re-read my section on taxation you will notice that it is not self-promotion. Anyway, I do not wish to argue you with you. I am not going to work for nothing.

I have asked you to return my copywritten material. Please do so as a priority.

I have got the message. Goodbye.

Dear Wikipedia, Will you kindly provide me with the contribution that I made today to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_protection_insurance and which you deleted without giving me any prior notice. Please do this as a priority. It is high quality content which I am keen to publish on a competitor website that will accept my free contribution (of which there will be many.)
 * Sure, just click on "View History", and you can access all of the old versions of any article on the site including this one. I wish you all the best with your writing. --Salimfadhley (talk) 23:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I have obtained my contribution via the history tab. I will publish it on Google and LinkedIn as a priority, to protect myself from plagiarism (now it is has been made public through the Wikipedia history tab.) Let me know if you update your policy at any stage to encourage perspectives from contributors with hard earned business experience. Until then goodbye.
 * Hi there. I want to be really clear -- you are welcome to edit Wikipedia. You just have to follow the same rules and policies as everyone else. No matter how much of an expert you are in your field, that doesn't exempt you from having to follow the policies around notability, conflict of interest and citation of reliable sources. You are free to come or go as you please -- I just want to make it clear that nobody is booting you out. If you do want to contribute to Wikipedia, we would welcome your contributions, but hold you to the same standard as every other editor. Either way, good luck.  M r A urelius R   Talk! 00:27, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Help me!
Please help me with... Sirs, I notice all of my contributions to Wikipedia have been removed. I think this is unfair because I disagree that these were all self-promotion.

I have noticed that the Wikipedia result for Kingsley Coman appears when the search term Coman & Co is entered into Yahoo.co.uk.

I have issued a request to block search results in Yahoo Search in Europe for my brand. Please co-operate with Yahoo (as represented by Verizon Media EMEA Limited) for the removal of an inappropriate Wikipedia result relating to a search term for my brand.

I am a published author on Taxation and an experienced Chartered Tax Adviser. Thank you. Coman, Raphael (talk) 23:31, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has no control over Yahoo's search algorithms; if you are communicating with Yahoo to adjust its algorithms, that's what you should do. 331dot (talk) 00:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Please review conflict of interest before attempting to edit further about your brand and/or website. 331dot (talk) 00:42, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Help me!
Please help me with... My post was removed from the following page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-employment However, there are also links for instance to https://spendmatters.com/ on that page which is also commercially run. There are links to commercial website all over Wikipedia.

I want to know that my efforts will not be wasted before updating a Wikipedia site, because as a tax expert I note a lot of insufficient coverage/omissions from your pages related to UK tax. This is because I have years in practice and understand what information is pertinent. I would not make any correction with an advance assurance that my content will not be removed without any process of negotiation. Coman, Raphael (talk) 12:48, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * While your update was reasonable, the addition of using your own website as a reference is seen as spam and hence the whole section you added was removed. You'll need to find a reliable source providing the same information for your edit to stand. Also, as for '...advance assurance that my content will not be removed without any process of negotiation'... just no, see WP:OWN - Rich T&#124;C&#124;E-Mail 13:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * (ec) Wikipedia is a collaborative effort; you need to work with others to arrive at a consensus as to what content the article should have. If your edits are challenged, you need to make a case for them on the article talk page or otherwise discuss them with the other editors involved. It could be that the link you mention is also inappropriate, I'm not sure what consensus is on that article.
 * You may wish to read this guidance for editors who are experts in a field. 331dot (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I consider it offensive that you do not regard my website as a reliable source of information. Please re-phrase your response or consider apologising. Coman, Raphael (talk) 13:16, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You don't need to make additional "help me" sections; please just edit this existing section. The "help me" tags are also unnecessary as we are watching this page. I'm sure that your website is a great source of information.  But you have a severe conflict of interest in writing about your own website.  Please review WP:COI before further edits. 331dot (talk) 13:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I am not writing about my own website. I am writing about tax and referring to my own website, because my own understanding of how tax works in practice is precisely what I rely on.

Second, please clarify the grounding on which Wikipedia expects users to contribute to its website without in turn thanking the contributor with a reference to their website.

On what basis can you hope for reliable information from contributors? Coman, Raphael (talk) 13:25, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Again, further "help me" tags are not necessary. Please click "edit" to edit this page and not "new section".  (this is easier on the full desktop version rather than the app or mobile version, even on a phone)  It is a severe conflict of interest for you to refer to your own website as a reference.  This is viewed as spam by other editors, even if you don't intend it that way.  Again, please read the pages I indicated above.
 * Wikipedia is not interested in reliable information from contributors directly; Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state. 331dot (talk) 13:32, 1 November 2020 (UTC)