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A goat for you!
Because goats.

04:52, 8 January 2023 (UTC) 


 * I guess I'm the GOAT (excuse the baaaad pun). :D Complex / Rational  22:51, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I appreciate a bad pun as much as a good goat; all are welcome ;)  00:41, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

I am sorry for writing a "hoax"
I did not mean to write a hoax as the GRO is completely real. But maybe just not suitable enough for wiki. It is no hoax but simply just a lesser known corp, do you accept this query? I will not write any bad articles again. Tooting! carrot 123dicey (talk) 01:42, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I can't find any evidence that this organization is real and the sources in the deleted article also didn't have anything. A real government organization should at least have an easy-to-find .gov site, which doesn't appear to be the case for this organization. If the GRO actually does exist, any potential article would need to have citations to reliable sources not affiliated with the organization. This forms part of the general notability guideline for any topic to be included on Wikipedia, so I should also note that many lesser-known organizations do not, and should not, have Wikipedia articles. Complex / Rational  02:04, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

No need to delete
Please do not delete the unused data like this, unless it is disruptive. Being able to take a second look is part of the process. -DePiep (talk) 16:43, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I had already checked and updated the data in the isoboxes. In some cases, when references were involved, keeping both datasets led to cite errors; I removed the old (deprecated) data to ensure such errors would not propagate to article space. Nevertheless, if you believe this is unnecessary (I'm guessing you mean take a a second look after all the data is updated?) and there are no error messages, I will stop doing it. Complex / Rational  16:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes the red reference errors are a good reason to simply remove them. But regular data can stay, no harm. Cleanup afterwards needed anyway. Also gives me a tech finger on the pulse (unexpectad situations to learn from). Thanx. DePiep (talk) 16:54, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * And on second thought: it is even preferable to delete the old refs right after the checking, because they should not break future correct edits to any article references. ;-) DePiep (talk) 12:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright, will do this moving forward. Then we have the best of both worlds. Complex / Rational  14:56, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

AfC backlog drive
Hi ComplexRational, there's still a couple days left to get in some reviews! :) S0091 (talk) 18:55, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Nijenhuis (Diepenheim)
Dear ComplexRational,

Thank you for your interest in this article. I should have mentioned outright that it was indeed a translation from Dutch Wikipedia. You commented at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nijenhuis_(Diepenheim)&action=history: "remove sections flagged as copyvio on nl.wp (from http://www.markveldseveld.nl/kastelen.html), however". But that section does not appear to be flagged as copyvio, compare https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nijenhuis_(Diepenheim)#Gebouw (gebouw=building). Thanks and cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 11:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * So we can restore a translation of that Dutch wikipedia section?
 * It's not flagged here on en.wp (and never was), but indicates a possible copyvio, and the source material is labeled as "Copyright. All rights reserved." Unless I misunderstood this, restoring the deleted section would be inappropriate, but feel free to add a paraphrased translation of your own.  Complex / Rational  14:32, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

 * Thanks! Sorry I couldn't get more reviews in. Complex / Rational  03:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Voices of Bishara
Just wanted to throw a thank you for approving this article and deleting the redirect the other day, but also to let you know that you forgot to move the article to mainspace. Don't worry, I've already done it myself, just figured you oughtta know. This, of course, is assuming that you were the one who approved it and not just who answered a CSD request on the redirect, and that it was someone else who didn't follow through, in which case just ignore this part! QuietHere (talk) 01:11, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the message. I was actually just responding to the CSD request, as I believe the person approving the article at AfC should be the one moving it to mainspace. But it would probably be a good habit to ping the reviewer in the deletion summary. Cheers, Complex / Rational  03:41, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

A 2022 review, including prospects for future transactinides
Not sure if I've previously sent you this. It refers to this 2016 conference paper that concludes Seems like the general attitude has changed from "119 and 120 are coming" (Zagrebaev 2013) to something more like (if I may paraphrase): "119 and 120 will need a paradigm shift from what has come before, will be hard to characterise, and even once that's done, 121++ will still be really hard". Double sharp (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've seen this one before. Looks like a pretty comprehensive review, but there are oh so many questions... For one, I wonder where the "fission drip line" might lie among SHEs or in the path of r-process nucleosynthesis. Complex / Rational  01:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Inwa School of Performing Arts
Hi. It's been so long since I A7'd a school, I had forgotten about that caveat. Thanks.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:41, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, it happens to everyone. Keep up the good work! Complex / Rational  13:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

FAR for uranium
I have nominated Uranium for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 18:33, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Responded there. I'd like to help, but I'm unsure how much time I can commit at the moment. Complex / Rational  21:41, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Editing
The article is up for deletion by you. Can you please tell me what changes need to be made. Nikita sh12 (talk) 15:21, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The page read as a detailed product description of CloudPanel, which is the kind of content suggesting that a user should install and use the product. Wikipedia is not an advertising service or how-to guide; a Wikipedia article (or draft thereof) should describe its subject in a neutral tone, with the sole purpose of informing the reader. As such, a new draft would need to be fundamentally rewritten to address these concerns. Complex / Rational  16:21, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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Bbb23 (the redirect)
I was aware such a redirect would be potentially problematic, but I didn't know it would be vandalized SO soon. Had I known about it in advance I wouldn't have created it in the first place. Sorry! Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 23:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize. Conversely, I apologize if you took offense from my protection summary – your creation was absolutely not in bad faith, but rather the influx of successive IP edits were.
 * Unfortunately, certain pages/titles tend to be vandal-magnets, especially since the only barrier here was needing autoconfirmed permission to create the page. See also the logs for Materialscientist and Widr (again, the page titles in mainspace, not the users) for similar happenings.
 * Regarding the intended function of this redirect, I think BBB 23 does a better job because it matches the target's case and spacing; we don't default to creating redirects for all variants on capitalization and spacing, and given the bad faith edits in this case, in my opinion the lowercase title has the potential to do more harm than good – at least, until someone/something else widely known exactly as "bbb23" comes into existence. I have no prejudice if another admin approves the creation of a redirect, though in that case, I would strongly recommend at least extended-confirmed protection. Complex / Rational  03:32, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I see that has recreated this title, with full protection. So vandalism is no longer a concern (unless an admin goes rogue and starts creating articles on non-notable admins :)). Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 03:59, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems vaguely plausible to me for someone typing quickly, especially on a phone keyboard. But ECP feels a bit too much like an invitation to create sleeper socks. Hopefully full protection removes the temptation. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 11:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Those are very fair points. Indeed, hopefully, full protection will do the job. Complex / Rational  13:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

New high-precision mass measurements
,. Burzuchius (talk) 14:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Interesting read! Complex / Rational  16:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

copyvio at Newmont
I saw you redacted copyvio material I removed at Ahafo mine. The same content was copied at Newmont. Just FYI Larataguera (talk) 16:07, 12 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up and your diligence. I have now redacted the copyvio at Newmont as well. Complex / Rational  16:12, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

LevaSoul SA
Hey there,

I want to create an article that was speedy deleted here on Wikipedia

Article Title: LevaSoul SA MaditsiT (talk) 18:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Unoctoctium
Hello ComplexRational, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Unoctoctium, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G4: A 4-year-old mass RFD with a weak delete result, with several of the nominated redirects having been recreated in the years since, doesn't seem to impose a long-standing consensus against future creation. These should be discussed again. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The criterion was technically applicable, but I understand why it was declined and was on the fence myself (which is why I didn't flat-out delete). It's definitely worth another discussion. Complex / Rational  16:41, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

User:ComplexRational2
Is this your alt account, or is this an impostor? -- Shadow  of the  Starlit Sky  04:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Definitely not mine. Thanks for the heads-up. Complex / Rational  16:23, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @ComplexRational Got it. Reporting to WP:UAA right now. -- Shadow  of the  Starlit Sky  20:06, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: Another admin just indeffed that account for impersonation, FYI (after reporting to WP:UAA). -- Shadow  of the  Starlit Sky  21:55, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, I just saw. I've been offline most of today, but was ready to take action myself. Thanks again for your diligence. Complex / Rational  21:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

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My Wikipedia has been deleted
Dear ComplexRational,

I recently noticed that my Wikipedia page has been deleted, and I wanted to reach out to inquire about the reason for the deletion. I put a lot of time and effort into creating and maintaining the page, and I believe it provided valuable information to readers.

If there were any issues with the content or formatting of the page, I would be happy to work with you to address them and ensure that the page meets Wikipedia's standards. I am also open to any suggestions or feedback you may have on how to improve the page or make it more suitable for Wikipedia.

Thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing back from you.

Best regards Dhoogenkamp (talk) 10:07, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * , your page was deleted because it was written like a curriculum vitae that contained excessive autobiographical content unrelated to work on Wikipedia, with a strong promotional tone that would also make it unsuitable as an encyclopedia article.
 * Your user page should primarily describe your work on Wikipedia, with a little bit of autobiographical content; see the guidelines on acceptable usage of user pages for more detailed information. Wikipedia is not a blog, personal webpage, or web host.
 * If your intent was to create an article, please keep in mind that writing autobiographies is strongly discouraged, as it is somewhat harder to maintain a neutral point of view. Nonetheless, the correct way forward is to create an page in draft space (title with a Draft: prefix) with an encyclopedic tone, citations to multiple independent reliable sources (this determines whether an article subject is notable enough for a standalone article), and submit it via articles for creation so that an uninvolved editor can assess whether the article would be suitable for mainspace.
 * Complex / Rational 14:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

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A recycled cup of coffee for you!

 * Thank you, happy to take part (even though virtually this time)! Complex / Rational  02:37, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

IP account using a logged-in account?
First off, I would like to thank you for helping to revert vandalism on Port Hope Simpson. I assume User:Sophiebridle and User:209.128.11.201 are the same person because they're making the same edits on the page. Do you think I should report this to WP:ANI or WP:SPI? Thanks for your time, Din  oz1  (chat?) 14:26, 26 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Dinoz1: Creating an account between two edits isn't explicitly disallowed, even if the edits are vandalism. I say if they keep doing it, report the account at WP:AIV, and I'm pretty sure the IP will be autoblocked in some way. Liliana UwU  (talk / contributions) 14:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Din  oz1  (chat?) 14:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, what said. Now that the IP has been blocked, the account would out itself as a WP:DUCK if it disruptively edits the same page in the same manner (provided they haven't already been autoblocked). I also would say it's not worth going through the motions of SPI unless there's good reason to suspect sleepers or long-term abuse – which, in this case, I don't see at first glance.  Complex / Rational  14:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Complex Rational! I ended up reporting them to AIV, which may explain the block. Hopefully after 31 hours, they don't get back up to the same mischief. Din  oz1  (chat?) 14:48, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

User:Gettingtoit/Draft/poli103
Please undelete User:Gettingtoit/Draft/poli103. The page is clearly not eligible for U5 since the user has more than 5000 edits outside of userspace. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notice; I had overlooked that. I have restored the page and sent it to MfD. Complex / Rational  15:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

G6 decline
Hey! I saw you declined my G6. I saw that it was from 16 years ago and didn't really see any new sources indicating notability. But I understand the decline and now realize that I confused it with G4. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I had a feeling that was the case; no worries. My main reason for not simply invoking G4 is that some post-2007 claims are present in the article, and I haven't looked for any foreign-language sources that might illustrate notability, so I believe this is best addressed via a new AfD. Complex / Rational  15:39, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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Maaveeran (2023 film)
Saw that A10 declined. Would G4 apply for this even if it was draftified and not completely deleted? Nothing has changed since the previous discussion WikiVirusC (talk) 00:06, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The criterion does not explicitly say one way or the other. My understanding is that since the decision to draftify was the result of the deletion discussion, G4 would indeed be applicable to the identical page recreated in article space (as it could be seen as trying to circumvent the deletion policy) but not to the draft itself (where the goal is incubation). Thanks for bringing this AfD to my attention; I have deleted the page. Complex / Rational  01:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

XTiles
Hi there, this article that you started an AfD for, has been created again 2 days after deletion. Does this new version address the issues? Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:39, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It's essentially identical to the deleted version. I endorse the G4 tagging, but it would look less biased if another admin follows through and deletes it. Complex / Rational  13:23, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Promotional Article
Dear wikipedian a promotional article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitra_Rafee Created by : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Moeinianm

as you see this user all drafts and article seems promotional and alot of them deleted.

You can see this article deleted 7 times in persian wikipedia : https://fa.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%98%D9%87:%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7/delete&page=%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7_%D8%B1%D9%81%DB%8C%D8%B9

Please take action thanks 141.11.249.38 (talk) 13:38, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * As far as user conduct goes, there's nothing urgently requiring action here.
 * For the article on fa.wiki that you linked, deletions there have no bearings for the corresponding article here. I don't believe any of the criteria for speedy deletion are applicable, so if you believe the English article should be deleted, please open a discussion at articles for deletion and follow the instructions here to complete the process. Complex / Rational  13:39, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello it seems need account and i don't have it can you do it ?
 * You can see this article don't have any english related source they created as english version of its persian ( original ) one . This article created 2 april 2023 and the last delete of persian ones 24 april 2023.
 * The original article deleted 7 times because this person is not notable in persian ( original community of this article ) . It doesn't make sense ? 141.11.249.38 (talk) 13:56, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * they just create it for blue badge in social media ( instagram ) you can see it created by https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Moeinianm with mention instagram and fake crunchbase account ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mitra_Rafee&oldid=1147857449 )
 * This person created alot of article like this and alot of them deleted . 141.11.249.38 (talk) 14:03, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * it doesn't matter for them if this article delete in few months after they get bluebadge as celebrity by put google knowledge panel link ( which created because of their wikipedia ) in bio of their instagram page . You can see this person did it.
 * Please take action thanks 141.11.249.38 (talk) 14:11, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Once again, deletions on the Persian Wikipedia are basically irrelevant here, because policies and guidelines are not necessarily the same across different wikis. On the note of policy, there is nothing expressly forbidding the use of foreign-language sources, though English-language sources are preferred whenever they are available.
 * You may write a deletion rationale and post it to Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion to have someone else create the discussion page for you.
 * If you believe there is a more sophisticated issue here involving user conduct, please first attempt to discuss it with the user. I also don't clearly see the evidence behind your claims – if there is, it's certainly not obvious enough to justify any immediate action. And moreover, I have no subject-matter knowledge and have no recollection of related interactions within this area (or indeed with you specifically), so I urge you to instead raise this matter at this user's talk page or at a noticeboard/deletion discussion. Complex / Rational  14:26, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

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thanque

 * I wish you good luck! Complex / Rational  16:34, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

thank you.
that's my fault, I meant to type 1! AndrewSan12 (talk) 01:55, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * No problem! Complex / Rational  11:54, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.

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 * Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello , The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day. won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
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 * 2022 Awards

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from  to  '''

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as and  have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.


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