User talk:ConcernedVancouverite/Archive 5

Why are undoing my edit on the basis of that they may be 'original research'?
Hi ConcernedVancouverite, You undid a number of my recent edits. I have reversed these as I do not agree with your argument. Specifically, content regarding EUF Certification is information ready available on the European Underwater Federation website. The exercise of editing articles for ANDI, PADI and SSI is asssociated with a collaborative activity to improve the List of diver certification organizations article. You are more than welcome to look at the Talk page for this article to see the discussion where I undertook to do the editing of the articles where existing for those organisations certified by the EUF.Cowdy001 (talk) 02:54, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Certifications are only notable if they are mentioned in third party reliable sources. Going to a certification body and adding that information to the article is original research unless it is reported in a third party independent source. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 03:54, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Please cite your source for this claim. There is a difference between a primary source and original research. Primary sources are admissable for some classes of information.

Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities, without the self-published source requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as:

the material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim; it does not involve claims about third parties; it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the source; there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity; the article is not based primarily on such sources.
 * &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 18:48, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * In several of the articles those primary links for certification are the only claims of notability. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 21:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * That would justify a notability notice, not reversion of these edits. &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:47, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Which have now been provided. Happy editing!  ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 15:16, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You have not yet addressed the matter of reverting the edits which contained basic information that certifications were issued from a primary source which is the certifying agency. Do you maintain that this information is not admissible, although on first appearance it seems to be, or do you dispute the veracity of the information, or is there another reason? &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I simply question the notability of the claim, and the benefit to having it added to the article, if it is not mentioned anywhere but on a certification database. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 22:38, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * How do you know that (if) it is not mentioned anywhere but on a "certification database", (and why would you call the website of EUF a certification database?)
 * If you question the notability of a claim, why not do so by tagging it, rather than arbitrarily reverting with the claim that it is not notable because of the provenance?
 * Where is it stipulated that all information in an article must be notable? What criteria are applicable to notability of information regarding organizations? &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 08:16, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The link appears to just be to a listing in a centralized listing/database of certifications. Adding random information about an organization that is not reported by third parties frequently is overly detailed and lends the appearance of notability when it is a non-notable claim. That is why I have referred to it as such. In terms of why I removed it originally, that is part of WP:BOLD.  You opposed the removal and I have not re-removed it - instead I tagged the articles as you preferred.  Happy editing! ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 14:36, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, It appears you do not have a strong argument for removing it and I assume you will not have a strong objection to me reverting those deletions as in my opinion they are relevant and sufficiently notable to be worth mention, as they provide a distinction between a group of diver certification agencies which are recognized by an international quality control organisation and others which may not have any external quality assurance audit, or are audited by a different organisation. &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Sandeep Maheshwari
This page should not be speedily deleted because... (All the copyright content has been removed and only reliable sources of wikipedia has been provoded,its an important article with so many relaible sources ,provided for that).. first see the article contents and discuss on talk page. dont delete it directly ,prsuming that it will be promotional again. just see the article first.--Nitishkumartn (talk) 16:50, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The article still contains numerous WP:PEACOCK phrasings, citations to promotional press releases, etc. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 16:52, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

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