User talk:Conordouglashiggins

Notability of Octopus IP Communications
A tag has been placed on Octopus IP Communications requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion by adding  to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JohnCD (talk) 18:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Don't remove speedy-deletion tags
You are entitled to challenge the speedy deletion,as you have done, by putting on the page immediately under the  tag; now put your reasons on the article's talk page. The administrators will read what you say before they decide. But you should not remove the speedy deletion tag from a page you have created. JohnCD (talk) 18:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I haven't salted yet, but I still don't see how this company is notable per WP:CORP, and I don't see any citations to reliable independent sources that would show its notability. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Octopus IP Communications
I have deleted your article and prevented its recreation for a period of 30 days. Please do not recreate articles that have already been repeatedly deleted for a lack of notability. After the 30 days are up and you have gathered the material necessary to prove notability, I would be open to the article being rewritten in a manner that does not sound like a blatant advertisement. Trusilver 04:02, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I am OK with these terms, and will work on rewriting this article to meet WP compliance. Octopus IP Communications has some unique technology in the IP Communications space, and I think if referenced correctly, this business would likely be accepted as an article in the Wiki.

I think sandbox WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) will help us include proper references. Would you say that our initial entries were not sourced correctly, or even sourced at all?

One final question - Based on the Notability guidelines, could Octopus IP Communications be referenced in relative article subject lines, entries that refer to businesses offering SIP, VoIP, etc.?

Notability guidelines do not directly limit article content Shortcuts: WP:NNC WP:N#NCONTENT

Notability guidelines give guidance on whether a topic is notable enough to be included in Wikipedia as a separate article, but do not specifically regulate the content of articles (with the exception of lists of people [10]). The particular topics and facts within an article are not each required to meet the standards of the notability guidelines; instead, article content is governed by other policies and guidelines, such as the policy requiring Verifiability and the guidelines covering the use of reliable sources and of trivia sections.

Thank You WP Administration

Conordouglashiggins (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2008 (UTC)