User talk:CoolNiak

I got your e-mails.

Votre anglais est très supérieur à ma francais (deux ans in le lycée + Babel Fish). (I hope that I just said "your English is far superior to my two years of secondary school French+ Babel Fish.") If instead, I inquired about your cat or proposed to eat your sofa, please forgive my monolingualism

First, do not delete stuff from Wikipedia. It's considered "vandalism". It's bad when it happens to articles and it's considered très rude when people do it to users' pages. I would have been very angry but for the two polite e-mails you sent me.

Second, we're an encyclopedia, not a message board or a fun web site. We've got very strict rules for what type of External Links we want. Generally they have to meet our Reliable Sources Guideline. That means many useful or interesting web sites don't meet requirements.

Links to Agence France-Presse news reports are good; links to your blog or my web site are not good, even if we're not primarily trying to sell something or build page rank and win a prize.

I strongly encourage you to avoid adding links to Wikipedia, especially during this contest:
 * Your other sites are likely to also be added to the global spam blacklist used by all the world Wikipedias. This is based on the notion that if someone spams us for the contest, they'll spam us with all their other domains as well sooner or later.
 * There are rumors in the English-speaking "black hat" SEO community that Google and others may sometimes refer to our blacklists when making decisions about who they think is spamdexing. This is just a rumor -- no one knows for sure. Still, it's not a risk you want to take. (I'd be curious to know if you've heard the same rumors in the francophone SEO world).
 * All Wikipedia links are now coded "nofollow" as of several days ago.
 * It's probably not worth the time, risk and aggravation unless you are certain it spamming Wikipedia make you the one to win the new Citroen C2

Anyway, please don't ever, ever add any kind of link here again, but otherwise good luck and enjoy your new car. --A. B. (talk) 02:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

From http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr:
 * J'ai obtenu vos E-mails.


 * Votre anglais est très supérieur à ma francais (deux ans in le lycée + Babel Fish). Si à la place, je me suis enquis au sujet de votre chat ou ai proposé de manger votre sofa, pardonnez svp mon monolingualism


 * D'abord, ne supprimez pas la substance de Wikipedia. On le considère "vandalisme". Il est mauvais quand il arrive aux articles et on le considère des très grossiers quand les gens le font aux pages des utilisateurs. J'aurais été très fâché mais pour les deux E-mails polis vous m'avez envoyé.


 * En second lieu, nous sommes une encyclopédie, pas un panneau de message ou un site Web d'amusement. Nous avons des règles très strictes pour quel type de liens externes nous voulons. Généralement ils doivent rencontrer notre directive fiable de sources. Cela signifie que beaucoup d'emplacements utiles ou intéressants d'enchaînement ne répondent pas à des exigences.


 * Les rapports de nouvelles de la France-Presse de toAgence de liens sont bons ; les liens à votre blog ou à mon site Web ne sont pas bons, même si nous n'essayons pas principalement de vendre quelque chose ou d'établir le grade de page et de gagner un prix.


 * Je vous encourage fortement à éviter d'ajouter des liens à Wikipedia, particulièrement pendant ce concours :
 * * Vos autres emplacements sont susceptibles d'être ajoutés également à la liste noire globale de Spam ] employée par tout le monde Wikipedias. Ceci est basé sur la notion qui si quelqu'un Spam nous pour le concours, ils Spam de volonté nous avec tous leurs autres domaines aussi bien tôt ou tard.
 * * Il y a des rumeurs dans la communauté qui parle anglais de SEO "de chapeau noir" que Google et d'autres peuvent parfois se rapporter à nos listes noires en prenant des décisions au sujet de qui ils pensent spamdexing. C'est juste une rumeur -- personne ne sait pour sûr. Toujours, ce n'est pas un risque que vous voulez prendre. (je serais curieux pour savoir si vous avez entendu les mêmes rumeurs dans le monde francophone de SEO).
 * * Tous les liens de Wikipedia sont maintenant "nofollow" codé en date il y a de plusieurs jours. Il n'est probablement pas en valeur le temps, le risque et l'aggravation à moins que vous soyezcertainqu'il Spamming Wikipedia vous font celui pour gagner le nouveau Citroen C2


 * ''Quoi qu'il en soit, svp jamais, ajoutez jamais n'importe quel genre de lien ici encore, mais de chance autrement bonne et appréciez votre nouvelle voiture


 * On other comment -- it might help to let your French colleagues know about the hard line we're taking here as well as about the nofollow coding. --A. B. (talk) 02:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Your e-mail
I got your latest e-mail.

I hope your colleagues not angry with you about the article that was deleted. They should not be. My guess is that their domain names would have eventually been blocked anyway as we got spam links associated with the contest. We would have taken the domains from http://www.seoworldchampionship.com/leaderboard/ and used them for blacklisting if we got very much globalwarmingawareness2007 spam.

This is supposed to be a white hat contest but I think some contestants' hats may have a black lining.

"I don't understand why the contest's page on wikipedia was deleted because I didn't spam wikipedia but only created content."
 * I am not in charge of Wikipedia. I did not delete the article. I'm not surprised that it was deleted, however, since it was not the sort of article we want. (I'm not referring to the fact that it was about an SEO contest -- I am referring to what Wikipedia calls "notability". The article did not meet our notability standard -- see the rules at WP:NN (if you're bored -- they're kind of dull).

"Can I share this discussion with the french contestants or/and can I put this discussion on the Internet"
 * You are welcome to refer people to this Wikipedia talk page

"Could you forward this this message to your colleagues."
 * CoolNiak, it would be better for you to post it yourself, probably at one of these locations:
 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam (at the bottom of the page)
 * or:
 * Administrators' noticeboard

Bonne chance avec votre Citroen C2, A. B. (talk) 06:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC) "Alphonse Brown" as you called me

Your e-mail II
This is in reply to your request per e-mail to restore. The response is no. This exact phrase is the subject of a spam contest, as noted above, and serves no legitimate purpose as the title of an article. Consider yourself warned that, if you try to introduce this phrase to Wikipedia, or external links related to the spam contest, you may be blocked without further warning. You remain welcome to contribute any legitimate global warming-related content to other articles on Wikipedia. Sandstein 19:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)