User talk:Cool Hand Luke/ACE2008

Comments, questions?
Please post them here. Cool Hand Luke 23:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * In your response to question 20, you advocate automatic desysoppings of wheel-warring admins. Is it your intention that such desysoppings should be provisional (i.e. to prevent further abuse of admin tools while Arb Comm or some other authority reviews whether a permanent desysopping is justified) or permanent (i.e. tools can be recovered only through a new RFA)? Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be an emergency desysop for subsequent review, but most wheel warring is unjustified. Except for truly compelling circumstances (like wheel waring in order to prevent a hacked admin account from committing clear vandalism before a 'crat steward can emergency desysop the hacked account), desysopping would be made permanent&mdash;that is, such users would have to reapply for adminship. I would push to clearly announce such a rule in a future wheel warring case. It would be an unfair ex post facto law to mete out this penalty without warning, so the first case might not result in permanent desysop.
 * Once established as the rule, however, we should stick to it. There's rarely a good excuse to wheel war. If other admins agree with a controversial administrative act, they're free to follow it (and they will not be considered wheel warriors), but no admin should single-handedly fight the acts of multiple others. Admins are supposed to be constrained by community decision making, and wheel warring openly disregards the views of others. Cool Hand Luke 20:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC) Rev'd. Cool Hand Luke 02:33, 28 October 2008 (UTC)