User talk:Cooolerhead

Pictures
Hey...I don't want you to think I'm just being territorial about certain pictures in the Theodore Roosevelt High School (Kent, Ohio) article. Your pictures are GREAT, first off...much better resolution than my camera can get and great color.  I did want to ask you if it was OK for me to crop the picture you used for Stanton Middle School so we see less of the driveway in front of it.  Even though I don't think the pic it replaced was that bad (true, is is more recent, but honestly, how much has the school changed at all in the last few years?  None that I'm aware of).  Anyway, here's my thing on the picture of Roosevelt Stadium.  The reason I like the laJonRidinger (talk) 02:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I find it ironic you say "Yes, it is the campus, but how informative is a picture of an open field with a few blurry buildings in it? This is an encyclopedia, not a personal picture gallery" yet you are the one insisting that your new pics be included despite the fact they really show nothing more than higher resolution. The picture showing the stadium from the rear with Stanton Middle School gives readers a better idea of what the campus looks like than just having three pictures of the home grandstand.  And while I will be the first to admit my pics aren't the greatest resolution, they are hardly "blurry" and unrecognizable.  Yes, this is an encyclopedic article, but along with that, it does not have to be super detailed, especially about the football stadium which has minimal importance to the article as a whole.  If you really want to contribute in the best way, try to submit and place pictures we don't already have rather than replacing ones that really aren't that bad.  We can see a few very minor details in your pictures you couldn't see before like more defined bleacher lines.  How does that make the article significantly better? --JonRidinger (talk) 02:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Excellent!
Great...glad we could get on the same page. I don't want to quash anyone's desire to help on this page because I've been waiting for more people to get involved. Like I said, your pictures are GREAT and I hate to see them go to waste, but at the same time we could really use more interior shots and some better exterior shots of the school itself and my poor camera just doesn't do that well inside (working on that problem...). In any article, generally, the only time you replace a picture is when the new picture is a significant improvement (maybe better angle, better lighting, better resolution, etc.). The general idea is it presents the subject better, so ask yourself...does the new photo truly improve the presentation of the material better or not? Any interior shots would be great like the gym, auditorium, pool, library, cafeteria...whatever you think would work to give readers a better idea of what Roosevelt is like. Granted, the article isn't long enough to use all of them yet (but we can use a lot more!), but since you are uploading them to the Commons we can categorize them and put a link to the gallery on the article page. When you upload them to the commons, be sure to add them to the "Category: Kent City School District". Good luck and glad to have you editing and contributing! --JonRidinger (talk) 02:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry man...I changed the caption because I realized the purpose of the picture was being missed when you removed it. In other words, I felt a clarification was needed.  Perhaps I can move that picture into a different section and we can use one of yours?  It really isn't that important to me.  The only thing is your picture is a closer view of a similar angle I took showing both Stanton and Roosevelt Stadiums, which is why I hesitate to use both in the same section.  My "justification" in having the three pictures of Roosevelt Stadium when I first put them in were three different angles (including a night version), plus two of them show more of the surroundings like the other stadium and track and the middle school.  In other words, my purpose wasn't just to highlight the Stadium, but also to help the reader understand where it fit in to the overall campus.


 * Understand that most of this article, the pictures, the paragraphs, etc, were written and compiled by me; I started this article. I have had virtually no help from many others not because I wished it but because not many others had much interest.  That said, I do not own this article; it is not my territory, though I do watch it and want it to improve and obviously have a great deal of interest in it.  I also recognize its current shortcomings and where it needs to be better.  You would feel much the same if you had started and put a lot into an article.  If I truly did treat it as "my territory", I would've removed your pictures (I also started the Stanton Middle School article), yet I haven't.  Instead I changed the article so we could both have our works used.  Please also understand I have been editing Wikipedia for a number of years and I know the policies and procedures and have had to deal with picture issues before (and not just the usage of my own pictures either).  --JonRidinger (talk) 03:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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