User talk:Cop 663

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Euphuisms, posh names, etc.
On this edit of yours: yes, yes, the new name I gave it is really a posh name for "trivia". Or rather, it's a posh name for what I would call "trivia". However, what a number of other WP editors think of as "trivia" is something quite different: stuff that tells us nothing whatever about the movie, but instead something very small about "pop culture" (culture that's very commercial, or wants to be popular, or both) of recent memory. I thought my new title would deter people from adding stuff about how the word "rosebud" is uttered in this or that episode of The Simpsons etc. (Observe this craporamic earlier version of "Dorian Gray" to see teen obsessions unbridled.) -- Hoary 15:29, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I see your point, but my real issue was wanting to add the 'too much trivia' tag as all these 'minor aspects' need to be integrated into the relevant sections (I'll have a go myself if I get time). Isn't it possible to create a 'pop culture references' section and then siphon it off into a separate page when it gets too big? Cop 633 17:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * List of references to Citizen Kane in other work was started over a year ago. I agree, there should be no list of unsorted addenda, even of interesting and worthwhile addenda. -- Hoary 23:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, there you go. Anyway, I have restructured the article and integrated the trivia into appropriate places. Cop 633 00:36, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Newer film infobox
Hi again! Just dropped by to mention the film infobox has been renewed and it's best to use the new one. It saves me some time in maintenance rounds at least. Cheers! Hoverfish Talk 16:03, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know! Cop 633 19:35, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Romani ite domum
I believe that got its own section because it used to be a completely separate article, and was dumped merged into the Life of Brian article. Joyous! | Talk 00:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * It probably belongs in the synopsis really. Except the synopsis is short, so it would look odd. I'd expand the synopsis but I last saw the film ten years ago and would probably make stuff up... Cop 633 00:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Die Deutscherfilmen
Hey if you could categorize like I have adjusted on you rGerman film that would be terrific. You may want to help WikiProject Films/List of films without article/List of missing East German Films -they can be stubbed first and then developed later. I don;t know though whether West german and East german films should go in a sepearttre category from German films - they are seperated on imdb Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't actually know that much about German film, but I think most East German films are pretty hard to find these days so creating a separate category might be unnecessary.Cop 633 15:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Film articles
Dear Cop 633

As you are interested in film articles, I would like to ask you to see the article that I am working on: Abbas Kiarostami. I would like to increase its quality and any comments from you would be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot for your time. Sangak 19:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll have a close look some time. It seems very impressive at first glance. Why does it have a NPOV tag, though? Cop 633 19:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I did some search in the literature and collected some info I thought they are useful. There were many praise in the literature about him. When I wrote the article, it looked naturally pov due to those praises (that were not mine). Here is the draft I wrote: There have beem some changes by some users afterwards. However some poeple think the quality is decreasing while others think it is increasing. Any helps from Your side will be very welcome.Sangak 08:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikiquote transwikis
Please do not transfer material to Wikiquote or other Wikimedia projects, as you did for A Man for All Seasons (1966 film) (to A Man for All Seasons (1966 film)), without following the guidelines at Help:Transwiki on the target project. Simply copying and pasting material violates GFDL, as the editors who actually contributed the material are not given credit for its presence in the Wikimedia projects. If you have any questions after reading the material, feel free to ask me. Thank you for your assistance. ~ Jeff Q (talk) (also Jeff Q on Wikiquote) 03:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'm sorry, I had no idea. Cop 633 03:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Toomuchtrivia tags
Many of the tags were added to pages that had only three or four trivia notes. I'm sorry I did not have the time to look over and review each one individually, but I believed, as I was right, that other editors such as yourselves would reinstate if the tag did indeed make sense. However, when this ip address had more than a hundred edits all with the same tag, and all within a couple of minutes of each other, how can it be anything but disruptive. I'm not saying they were all out of place, but a good number were.TheGreenFaerae 23:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries friend; I'm an anti-trivia fascist who doesn't believe in trivia sections at all. I'd put the tag on a one-item trivia section! Best, Cop 633 01:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The Barnstar of Good Humor

Iranian cinema
Please see my comments here: User talk:BillPP on categories.Sangak 14:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Babel (film)

 * Re: your recent edit on international release dates for Babel (film)

Just curious, where did you get these dates? According to the Japanese version of the official website (linked from ja:バベル (映画)), it is being released 28 April in Japan, not 3 March. —Tokek 15:45, 23 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, I got them from the IMDB but I presume the Japanese website is more up to date so change it by all means. Cop 633 20:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Iranian cinema
Following your request, I wrote a section about difficulties that Iranian filmmakers have encountered over the years. Please see here. It needs copyediting and perhaps shortenning. We had censorship before the revolution too, although after revolution we have had more restrictions. On the otherside, some other countries were also hostile to Iranian filmmakers. I wrote something. Just a starting point! Take care.Sangak 12:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for copyediting that section.Sangak 16:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami: FAC
Hi Cop 633 !

As you are also working on Iranian cinema:

Kiarostami is now featured article candidate. In case you have any comment, please let me know on the Featured article candidates/Abbas Kiarostami page. Any comments will be very much appreciated. I would like to get rid of all problems and make it a quality. Thanks. Sangak 20:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Just for your information, we use American English in this article. Thanks for your kind helps.Sangak 21:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment :-) Sangak 21:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem, nice work. Please fix my English if it's wrong.Cop 633 21:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

There is something I am not sure about. Do you think it is good to have the following sentence in the article?

Kiarostami often appears with his enigmatic sunglasses. He use them for medical reasons.

If yes, would you please help me with that? Where to put it and how? Thanks. Sangak 22:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that belongs in 'personal life'. I'll insert it there. Cop 633 22:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Sangak 19:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The Life of Mammals
With regard to your recent addition to The Life of Mammals, if you look at all the episode summaries within the David Attenborough "Life" series articles (as well as The Blue Planet and Planet Earth) on a 1280 x 1024 monitor, you will notice that each comprises exactly eight full lines of text. This didn't happen by accident. When I wrote them, I had the aim (probably a somewhat optimistic one) of ensuring that each episode had equal coverage and helped to create a nicely presented article. Out of necessity, this meant making some choices about which elements I included and those I omitted. Of course, given the nature of Wikipedia, I was probably being a bit foolish to hope that the summaries would stay that way forever, and I appreciate that it looks different on various sizes of monitor. However, most have had very few edits, except for punctuation and typos, etc., and now that Planet Earth is about to be unleashed on America, I'm resigned to it probably being 'open season' on that article for a while! I won't revert again, but I just wanted to explain the rationale. :-) Chris 42 16:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I see, but other than looking nice I'm not sure what the benefit is of having equal length summaries. If you're having to make decisions about which scenes to include and which to leave out (keeping tamarins but banishing marmosets), that's a problem, because you're sacrificing accuracy for aesthetics. Anti-marmoset prejudice is not something likely to keep me awake at nights, but I just thought I'd explain my logic there...! Cop 633 21:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Deaf-mute
The nonoffensive ("PC" if you wish) term is simply "deaf". See Deaf mute. Thank you. Ward3001 02:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Look, the reason people are annoyed by your edit is that this is a synopsis, and it is important to the plot that the character is unable or unwilling to speak. This fact needs to be stated. 'Deaf' only means unable to hear. Is there any way the character in this film can be described as 'not speaking' (which is important to the plot) without causing offence? Cop 633 02:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I see no problem with describing her communicating with hearing people by means of writing. The single word "mute" is not necessary, but a description of her behavior, if accurate, is appropriate. I personally don't consider her not speaking as a critical element once it is understood that she is deaf, but that is a matter of opinion. If you decide to revise, I would suggest describing her communication style without implying that she cannot speak. I'm certainly willing to cooperate with such edits as long as accurate and nonoffensive descriptions are used. Ward3001 03:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I tried this, which seems the most concise.


 * The way you revised it is acceptable to me. Thanks for your sensitivity to this issue. Ward3001 14:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem, sorry if I got snippy.Cop 633 14:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No apology necessary. It was just a matter of discussing it and reaching a resolution. Ward3001 14:33, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Not to mix in, but one option in some instances might be "deaf and mute." One of the objections many people have to "deaf-mute" is that it historically assumed that all deaf people were mute. It may not work for everyone, but at times it might be a solution.Lawikitejana 20:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment Lawikitejana, but I would also object to "deaf and mute"; it's too close to deaf-mute. The objection by deaf people to "deaf-mute" is more than just the assumption that deaf people are mute. Historically, "deaf-mute" has had connotations of stupidity. See Deaf-mute. Ward3001 00:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami was promoted!
Dear Cop633

I need to thank you for your kind assistance and support. The article would not come to FA status without your helps. Thanks and All the best. Sangak Talk 11:09, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

DeBolts
By the way, I was looking at the article on Who Are the DeBolts? And Where Did They Get Nineteen Kids? and that reminded me that I'd never said "thanks" for your creating it to begin with. I've added to it a few times and enjoyed being able to enlighten people further about one of my favorite documentaries of all time.Lawikitejana 20:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries! (Never even seen it myself!) Cop 633 20:33, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Stuff
Greetings. I've seen some of your work, no doubt you are a good copy editor, if not and excellent one. And, you also seem to feel you have to have the final say on articles. The last version of this is The Official Story. No Great Britain was not good enough, you had to change it to UK and mention some minor detail about the DVD in the lead section. Please, I mean this in good spirit, can you put away your ego (about having the last word, I mean). We Wiki editora write in good faith and if the work if acceptable, please do not change. I'm going to delete the DVD mention because it does not belong there. If your want to create a section on names fine.

I've been wanting to contact you for other Wiki items, such as capitalization of names on Spanish titles: is it Vida loca or Vida Loca? in order to build a concensus, but, depending how you take this note, I can contact you later. It is a brewing matter on Wiki as far as I'm concerned.

I also realize I can be accussed of the same thing. It's about that type "A" personality we both seem to share. Type A's need to learn to cooperate on Wiki. (A possible article for a magazine. That is, who contributes and how they get along.)

Well, best to you, Luigibob 19:05, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Friend, I really meant no offense. I'm rather bewildered by your response. I wasn't trying to insult you or have the last word. I just wanted to clarify what the film's title was: if someone in the UK decided to look the film up in their local video store, they might have thought it was called Version, so I thought we should clarify that the DVD is called Story even in the UK.
 * I changed 'Great Britain' to 'UK' because 'Great Britain' technically excludes Northern Ireland. Pedantic, yes, but it's just a small thing that happens to bug me and I change it in a kind of pavlovian reflex.
 * I realize how this could have come across as me trying to keep 'proving you wrong', but that wasn't the intention; I honestly thought we were collaborating, and didn't realize it was a bloodthirsty battle to the death. ;)
 * Regarding Spanish names ... I don't speak Spanish, so I'm the wrong person to ask.
 * I don't consider myself to have a Type A personality, so if I ever act like I do, kick me hard. Cop 633 20:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Capitalization
Hi, from a type Z personality. Great job in film naming conventions. I am trying to find if there are more general conventions on foreign title capitalization (books, whatever), so I can understand where we stand and try to evaluate Luigibob's position. Without having done my homework, it sounds like it's correct to capitalize, like we do in English. If you know where I could look, especially any consensus discussions I would appreciate it. Hoverfish Talk 20:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm monoglot, so I'm not much help. My only brush with this was on Le Cercle rouge, where the rather odd-looking capitalization is in theory correct but in practice the French DVD covers are capitalized differently (see Talk:Le Cercle rouge). Yet I feel sure there must be clear rules about this somewhere. Have you tried asking people at WikiProject Spain and other language WikiProjects for their input? That might help. Cop 633 20:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I will ask. Hoverfish Talk 20:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Cop. I will black out the redirects on the List of Arg to avoid confusion. But I am working on this gradually. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 12:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Actors and Filmakers
Hey see my proposals at WikiProject Council/Proposals and the main WP Film and Biography talk page. Know anybody who is interested? Actors and all film people articles need a body on wikipedia to upkeep them asthey need more focus -it would be a part of Biogrpahy and Film. If you are interested or know somebody who would be, please let them know and whether you think it is a good progession for the project or not. Please leave your views at the council or biogrpahy main talk page. THanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 14:48, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Band of Outsiders
Reason for two different images of same sequence: (a) Shows they are dancing, (b) it's Godardian, (c) otherwise, with one image, they could just be standing there, (d) if truly one of the most famous scenes in cinema history, then it should be properly presented. Pepso 14:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, I agree that your pic shows they're dancing better than the original did. Maybe get rid of the original pic but keep the caption? You're right about it being Godardian too... Could you try to 'unsquish' your picture, though; it made them all look slightly fat. Cop 633 14:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I think I see the "squish" you mention. I believe this is simply an optical illusion created by the fact that the two shots are cropped differently. Pepso 08:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Argentine films
Cop check out my last 50 edits to show I am working on the lists. Gradually I'll remove the double directs but I hope enventually these will all have articles -I'tll take time. Also please categorize your Italian film properly. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 14:07, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Awesome! What was I doing wrong in the Italian films? Cop 633 14:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

E.g 20 minutes ago List of Argentine films:1942 was emptyish with several dozen redirects. Although even now not perfect I wil be going through each year and filling it in like this. I have done 1935-1942 so far I still have 1943 -2006 to go so please be patient. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 15:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, there's no rush, it was just an observation! Relax! Cop 633 16:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

The Great War (2007 film)
Please add citations to the article. Otherwise it could be deleted. Thank you! Wǐkǐɧérṃǐť (Talk)   (Contributions)  17:51, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Look Back in Anger
The synopsis of the film version was left unfinished by a more-than-normally feckless editor. I wrote the play synopsis and I can guarantee its accuracy since I have the Branaugh/Thompson performance on DVD. Any chance you could finish the film synopsis? El Ingles 15:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I haven't actually seen the film. I believe it's very close to the play so a synopsis is not really necessary, rather a section on any changes that were made. Cop 633 16:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * OK, I've ordered it from Netflix so I'll be able to do the work myself. As usual in play adaptations, they tried to move the action out of that claustrophobic attic. Ma Tanner was an actual character rather than being merely referred to. Nigel Kneale even invented a part for good old George Devine. Cheers. El Ingles 16:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ha! That's funny, maybe I should check it out for George. Cop 633 16:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Argentine films
I have begun work on the List of Argentine films. Not only have I removed all double links now but I have merged all the articles by decade and am as far as the 1950s. Check out the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s lists they look great ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" "S.P.E.C.T.R.E" 17:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Awesome! I like the pictures, gives you a glimpse into the past.Cop 633 18:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
I see you've put a 'fact' tag after the sentence "It implicitly suggests that Britain needs to 'fight dirty' in the face of such an evil enemy." How can you get a factual reference from an implicit suggestion? It's in the film. -- SteveCrook 07:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You can find a published author who agrees that this is the film's implication, or alternatively you can explain why this is the implication so. A lot of Wikipedia film articles describe things as 'implied' that are in fact subjective interpretations. I haven't seen this film so I don't know whether that's the case here. Cop 633 01:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Cop 633/Flagcruft sensible draft
I like what you have done there; I hope it was ok for me to edit it slightly. If not, edit it right back!--Guinnog 16:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Cheers! Cop 633 16:41, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Guernsey and sea-level
Yes, that's much clearer all round now. Thanks! Man vyi 18:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Flags in infoboxes
Strangely enough, I sort of agree with you. The problem is, there are so many flags in film infoboxes now (for distributors, release dates, running times, etc) that I think the country needs a flag too. I did raise the flags issue on the Films project talk page but nobody seemed to be that bothered, although there was at least agreement that we don't need every release date in the infobox which does mean some of these can be deleted. JW 14:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've been trying to straighten this out. My idea is that you don't really need a Brit flag next to the word 'UK' because it's superflous. But they are useful in narrow infoboxes to stop things like release dates overflowing onto two lines. But I realise it starts looking silly when there are flags next to everything in the box. There's a newish style guide on release dates at the Wikiproject, btw, just in case you haven't seen it. Anyway, I'm just trying to guage opinion, so thanks. Cop 633 16:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

"sandbox" moved to user space
I've moved the page you had at Cop 633/Flagcruft sensible draft/Babel to User:Cop 633/Flagcruft sensible draft/Babel, which I assume is what you originally intended (obviously sandbox pages shouldn't be in the article space). I've also restored and userified one of the other subpages; if you no longer need it, I'll be happy to re-delete it. Alai 19:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh brilliant - sorry about the mistake. Cop 633 22:59, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Flags
Sorry about blanking you edit i was just trying to readd the sports section which i felt should of been included i didn't notice the other sections you added, once again sorry (Gnevin 15:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC))

Reverting & consensus
Re:

If you have a reason why you think these things belong in the page, then it may very well make sense to replace them and explain on the talk page, but if you are just doing out of some notion of proper procedure, you are incorrect. Saying some action is "unilateral" is a misunderstanding of how consensus works. Edits are made based on reasons for the encyclopedia, and there does not need to be some referendum for every edit. Also, in this particular case you are ignoring the history of the matter. This page was entirely re-written—unilaterally—just a few days ago. If you want to revert changes that occur "unilaterally" and "without discussion" or "consensus", then the page would belong reverted to its state before the re-write. Wikipedia works by speaking directly to what is good and bad about a particular edit, which is what you need to do, not by referring to whatever procedural code you are thinking of. —Centrx→talk &bull; 01:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I wasn't referring to any policy, I was just asking you to be polite and helpful. We're trying to have a discussion about the ideas on this page, and it's annoying if the object of discussion suddenly vanishes. Regarding the recent unilateral rewrite, the author who did so invited anyone who disliked what he'd done to revert it. Nobody did. Now we're trying to sort out the blurry bits and grey areas. You've raised an interesting question about historical flags, which does indeed need to be discussed - but it would be nice to leave it in the article (with a 'disputed' tag) so that people can actually see what we're talking about.Cop 633 03:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with your policy on images
While what you said about the hypothetical apearance of Gliese 581 c is technically true, it is a common practice for editors to add images of a hypothetical apprearence of an object that we do not know the true appearence of. Many articles on exosolar planets have artist's impressions, and no one complains about those ones. Why can't we speculate about things we are uncertian of? Also, just because an artist's impression is added to an article, it doesn't mean that it has to take away from the actual material of the article. In my opinion, such images, in fact, make the article seam less overwhelming and easier to understand. Fusion7 18:38, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Possibly, if the art in question wasn't a copyright violation of original research by a non-notable artist. But it is. Cop 633 15:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Lame

 * Hey bud, while I certainly feel the content dispute is indeed lame, the place to mention that is not within the article itself. Arcayne   (cast a spell)  23:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm so sorry, that was a complete mistake. I'm not sure how it happened, but it was just an inadvertently saved typo, I wasn't meaning to insult anyone! I'm extremely embarassed. :(  Cop 633 00:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Lord_of_the_Flies_1963_DVD.jpg
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Image:Heroposter.jpg
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No.
Please stop reverting my and other editors' removal of spoiler tags. In case you hadn't noticed, the majority of those removing these tags have been admins since long before you joined Wikipedia (your lack of experience may also e indicated by the image licensing warnings above), and Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a fansite. Anybody who does not know the plot twist in Citizen Kane, for example, clearly has a very effective mechanism for avoiding it, since this is one of the most widely-discussed films in the world. If you don't want comprehensive information, don't go to an encyclopaedia, because that's what encyclopaedias provide. The remaining debate is whether 100% of spoiler tags are absurd or only 99%. Guy (Help!) 18:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's one argument. There are other arguments in favour of spoiler tags, however (for example, I'm sure a poll of average punters in the street would reveal that the vast majority know nothing at all about Citizen Kane). That is why there is a very interesting discussion going on about this, as well you know. Wouldn't it be polite to build a consensus before enacting it? They're not 'image license warnings', by the way, they're just notifications related to the recent purge of non-free images. And please don't 'pull rank', it's vulgar. Cop 633 19:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The discussion looks to me to carry a pretty clear and well-informed majority in favour of not having them, especially for extremely well-known films and books. Like King Kong (the gorilla dies!  shock horror!) and Citizen Kane.  Having seen Kane eight or nine times I can confirm that knowing that Rosebud is a sled does not spoil it.  Guy (Help!) 20:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The discussion looks to me like total chaos with obnoxious behaviour from both sides. I'm going to ignore it for a while for the sake of my blood pressure... Your problem is, unless the spoiler template gets deleted, people will keep adding it back, so you guys have got your work cut out for a long while. Cop 633 22:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, you're famous. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 05:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
I like giving these, and they are not used anywhere near enough.


 * Heh, I felt it was merely a demonstration of the innate tolerance and good manners of the English. Huzzah! Cop 663 12:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

"Consistency with other foreign language film articles," but not Bengali film articles!
Hi! I happened to notice that Ashani Sanket was redirected to Distant Thunder (1973 film). The redirect occurred with no discussion, but only with the edit summary: "moved Ashani Sanket to Distant Thunder (1973 film): Moving to English release title for consistency with other foreign language film articles."

But several (if not all) of the articles related to Satyajit Ray's other films maintain the title in the original Bengali or Hindustani. So, if you want to maintain consistency, shouldn't the article be moved back? Or else you would have to redirect (probably) every other Satyajit Ray film article to the English title :-D --Kuaichik 23:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the late reply. I think they do need moving to the English titles: see Naming conventions (films). I may start doing that in the near future. I'm not sure if you disagree with the conventions, but if so you should probably discuss them on the talk page there. Cop 663 15:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, that page says (if I recall correctly) that if naming conventions differ between countries, it is best to stick with the original name of the film. In India (even as far away from West Bengal as Kerala), the convention is to name all films by their original names. --Kuaichik 23:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And considering that English is the lingua franca of India, I would guess that India counts as part of the English-speaking world...even though not everyone in India speaks English. --Kuaichik 23:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi there, the page states that you only keep the original name if it differs between English-speaking countries; I wouldn't class India as part of the English-speaking world in the same way as Canada or Australia, since most Indians speak English as a second language and few Indian films are made (primarily) in English. I'll work on rewriting the page to make it less ambiguous - please feel free to discuss any changes on the talk page there. Cop 663 17:12, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, in that case, good luck in redirecting! And thanks! (I probably should help, but I'm involved with other things in Wikipedia as well...) :) --Kuaichik 00:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Southern Comfort DVD.jpg)
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Wikipedia:Don't overuse flags
Its meant to be short yes, but its also meant to be correct.--Vintagekits 00:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, never mind, clearly I can't please anyone - I'm being reverted by both Republicans and Unionists, so I'll leave you guys to fight it out amongst yourselves for another 1000 years... Cop 663 00:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Pretty filant remark but a situation like that. This is about facts not POV and I dont wish to "fight" with anyone.--Vintagekits 01:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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I'm not sure what your experiment is, but many template transclusions depend on the shortname alias value of "Yugoslavia". Changing it would have broken all of them. What are you trying to do? Andrwsc 01:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I had a problem with a user who didn't understand that the flag was for the Fed. Rep. of Yugoslavia (1992-2003), rather than the pre-1992 former Yugoslavia. This would be clarified if the Wikilink read "FR Yugoslavia", not just "Yugoslavia". Perhaps I could respectfully ask you to fix it, since the templates are so complicated!! Cop 663 01:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


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 * Sorry - must be early senility. The problem was that the template links to the 'flagcountry' template not the 'flag' one, so it misses the 'FR' from the wikilink. Maybe that could be fixed, but anyway I've fixed the particular page that was causing issues, so thanks for your help. Cop 663 01:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


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