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Not In Kansas Anymore: A Curious Tale of How Magic Is Transforming America
Dear CorbieVreccan,                                                           Perhaps I am mistaken but it is unlikely you have read the editorial reviews of this informative book by Christine Wicker from Booklist or Publishers Weekly on Amazon. It contains contemporary historical data. Whatever pleasures your fancy tickles me to death. So it goes... Miistermagico (talk) 04:27, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Lost in space. I would like to correct my errors to make you and others happy.
Dear Corbie Vreccan, Perhaps you would be kind enough to explain "citing particular content" and its "necessity" to a grunt like myself. I haven't a clue understanding what the hell you are talking about. Rather than condemning my wikipedia skills at offering "further reading" recommendations how about educating me on how I can improve them. I would appreciate your guidance. Miistermagico (talk) 17:15, 11 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Please read the page I suggested to you: What Wikipedia is Not. Looking at your user pages and contribs, I'm not sure you know that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web host or a personal blog. Even your user pages do not belong to you, but belong to Wikipedia. It is not considered appropriate to use it to post so much personal opinion and collections of personal information. It would be preferable to do that elsewhere than this site. This is not my personal opinion, but the policy of Wikipedia. As an administrator here, it is my job to enforce the policies. Best, -  CorbieV  ☊ ☼ 19:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear CorbieVreccian, This is NOT an answer to my specific question regarding "Further Reading". Please stick to the topic. Miistermagico (talk) 01:58, 12 May 2019 (UTC)


 * See WP:OWNTALK. It is possible your talk and user pages will be put up for deletion if you continue to act in opposition to Wikipedia policies. The policies covering your addition of books you like to the "further reading" sections of multiple articles are covered in the policies I've already sent you. Notably, WP:NOT and, if that's not clear, read WP:NG, and, to be blunt, WP:Vanispamcruftisment. Please read these policies and guidelines before contacting me again. - CorbieV  ☊ ☼ 03:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Lolo Jones
Please see Lolo Jones talk page if you want to further discuss the topic.Mcelite (talk) 06:58, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Re: Indigenous intellectual property
SolarStorm1859 (lostpwd) (talk) 18:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

June events with WIR
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Nomination of List of people of African-American and Native American ancestry for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of people of African-American and Native American ancestry is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of people of African-American and Native American ancestry until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Joshywonder
Comment from moved to his talk page to keep conversation in one place. My response there. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 20:34, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Stop pushing your POV
Wikipedia is not the place to push your POV with WP:SYN and WP:OR. You used the search results of a single site with no history of reliability and then just declared "there's no evidence other than a published book and the claims of this person." Either find an additional, reliable source that declares this, or stop adding your comments to sourced material. You are making VERY large leaps of conclusions here in order to push an agenda "This group is misrepresenting Native cultures." That you/others don't agree with them is immaterial. That you can't find something is immaterial. We publish what OTHER reliable, 3rd-party sources have published, not insinuations and innuendo about malfeasance based solely on what you can't find. Buffs (talk) 20:41, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Responding on article talk, where this belongs. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 20:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Stop edit warring
Your recent editing history at Order of the Arrow shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Stop edit warring yourself. I've attempted to address EVERY issue you've brought forward and you continue to push your agenda. Buffs (talk) 21:55, 3 June 2019 (UTC)


 * So predictable. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 23:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Please read
MOS:LEADCITE

For someone who has edited as long as I have I'm surprised you don't know it. Anyways, text must be sourced and the source must actually back up the text, please let me know where in the sources you believe the source to be backing up the text you are trying to add and I can help you to understand what the source is actually saying and the meaning of the text you are adding. Of 19 (talk) 02:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Of 19, I'm going to have to ask you not to patronize other editors. CorbieVreccan, consider tweaking the text to take out the "serial killer" stuff, quoting the article more closely. Drmies (talk) 02:44, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The serial killer stuff is actually in the cited text, due to serial killer Robert Pickton, and the large number of murder victims that fit a serial killer pattern. I can't recall if I put that in or if others did, but it's in the sources, especially those from the Inquiry. There's been a lot of recent changes to the text, but I'll try to check it out if I have a chance today. There's quite a bit of disruptive editing and also some likely socking going on, so it's a bit of a mess. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 17:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Please add a quotation from the sources you claim substantiate your addition of ""thousands of cases" of murders by serial killers" to the talk page before you continue this edit war. I've fixed your text for you to include only what I can find in the source you added. Of 19 (talk) 23:08, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You are misrepresenting my edits, as you have misrepresented the edits, and sourcing, and sources themselves, of everyone you have conflicted with here on WP. I urge you to take heed of the warnings other admins are posting on your talk page. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 20:38, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Empty Categories
Hello, CorbieVreccan, As you probably know, we delete empty categories that are not redirects or are subjects of an ongoing CfD discussion. Regarding your comments on Category talk:American people of Shoshone descent, unlike articles, there is no stigma for recreating deleted categories once they can be of use. Should you have an article to place in this category, please recreate it. Categories need to be used to be of any value and if you can find a use for one, please recreate any that you find useful. If another editor objects, they can always nominate it for a CfD conversation. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:48, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Liz, yes, at this point I think empties can be deleted. It was just right at the moment they went empty a few were still in transit. It was a busy few days of shifting things around. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 17:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You know, CorbieVreccan, I didn't realize when I posted this message that you were a long-time admin. Thanks for being gracious about me trying to school you on Wikipedia policy. Feeling a little foolish now! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 03:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, that's kind of you to say something. <3 Over the years I've taken some wikibreaks, and I prefer to work more on article content than argue policy, so newer folks may not have seen me in the admin trenches as much. After working on so many different articles over the years, I sometimes have to have another admin press the buttons, to keep it clean, so I also pop up requesting admin action (on articles I edit) about as often as I do pressing the buttons myself. Again, thanks for the note, -  <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 22:01, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

James Makokis
Hi! I started a userspace draft on this person. As the topic area is in your wheelhouse, I wondered—if you have time—if you wanted to look it over, make any changes you think necessary, and/or advise on whether or not he is notable enough to move into articlespace. -sche (talk) 03:45, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll try to look it over tomorrow.
 * Also pinging . - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 03:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Looks good to me! Let me know when you move to article space. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 17:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Cleanup after page move
I have been cleaning up after the move of Redskin (slang) to simply Redskin. Perhaps you would consider placing a template:db-g7 on Redskin (ethnic slur)?


 * Anyone can place the template. Are you asking me to delete the page itself? - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 21:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry I haven't been able to participate in this. Unfortunately, other tasks sucked up my time and energy. Hopefully that is over now. It may be a bit till I can get to this, though. If all the content has been taken care of, blanking and redirecting is also an option. I don't have the time right now to check which option is best, but if it hasn't been taken care of by the time I can, I'll get to when I get a chance. Best, - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 21:57, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was about to place a speedy deletion on "Redskin (ethnic slur)" when it occurred to me that you could place a reason=self and it would be uncontested. I could place the tag using another reason code if you are busy. The cleanup, as far as replacing all the instances of "Redskin (slang)" in all the articles is done.--WriterArtistDC (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Strange
How a wiki lawyer argues with you on various talk pages, articles, etc. Then a ‘new’ editor with a high degree of knowledge follows you, wiki lawyers you to the point of a block. Strange both go away at the same time. Just saying. 50.225.1.20 (talk) 12:37, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes it sure is strange. The 'new' account was oddly well versed for a new editor. Indigenous girl (talk) 21:16, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The "new" account even knows about templates I had never heard of, prior to them using them in an experienced manner. Not only the templates for compressing talkpage discussions, but things like linking different accounts. They are far more experienced in coding that stuff than I am. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 22:20, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--— xaosflux  Talk 18:51, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The section is Administrators'_noticeboard. — xaosflux  Talk 18:51, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * On it :) - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 21:19, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Harry Hay
My mistake on the template, I saw over a hundred references but didn’t see that most were to one author with two books on him. I think the other warning template about too much detail is unwarranted, I found the level of detail helpful in understanding him. As for the pedophile activism? He is really not known for that being a significant part of his life. Just as prominent would be dozens of other causes he has stood up for at one time. Gleeanon409 (talk) 18:41, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Harry Hay's pedophile activism and involvement in NAMBLA made a difference in what views, causes, groups, and people he promoted. The ramifications of which are still being felt in the areas of the community he influenced, and still has an influence on. The fights over NAMBLA inclusion or exclusion from Pride caused fights and splits in sectors of the community. Some of these fights were vicious. This history should be preserved, not disappeared. It is very significant and to leave it out is a disservice to history as well as whitewashing the profile of someone who was a divisive figure. He misrepresented most of the non-white cultures he "came in contact with", and we are still dealing with the misinformation he spread. If this is an attempt to clean up his image due to that Pride memorial, the better response would be to leave him off it, rather than to try to cover up the reasons that he is controversial. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:57, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Is there any evidence of these claims? Gleeanon409 (talk) 23:32, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll look at the sourcing, but if you know anything about Hay, this is common knowledge. Maybe younger people, or those who weren't part of the community when he was alive, didn't know this. But everyone else does. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:25, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm still reading the piece, but look at the photo. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:31, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It's already sourced; the current link seems to be down, but it's in the wayback machine. I'm editing now to add the archived URL, and two more sources. Also, your edits on the wall page, you don't need to pipe the link with the person's name twice. Just bold the name. Simple. Don't clutter it up like that. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:50, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Just to put some of this in perspective, right now I'm reading the FBI files on the NAMBLA investigations: Child sexual exploitation, and sex trafficking of kids. It's linked through the NAMBLA article. I strongly recommend that anyone who wants to downplay Hay's, or anyone's, active advocacy for this group go and read this stuff. This is why anyone with a conscience kept NAMBLA out of Pride, and those of us who worked in the gay press refused to let them buy ads. Their group was not about teens avoiding jail from age of consent laws, but had pictures in their zine of smiling five year olds and a caption, "Smiles mean consent." (They sent their ugly propaganda to gay publications when they tried to buy ads.) Sickening, criminal stuff. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 22:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I’m glad sources that actually support these surprising allegations are being presented, I have no problem with content that is shown to be true in reliable sources. That’s what I’ve been saying all along. Gleeanon409 (talk) 22:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * You need to understand that when you say "surprising" you are showing that you are very new to writing in this field and don't know our history. This is all common knowledge to most adults in the community. I'm not sure what the cutoff age is, but anyone who's younger and has read the basics should know all this, as well. You shouldn't have wasted my time this way. It's disruptive to the 'pedia and to those of us who have a lot of work to do, especially right now. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 23:02, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I was surprised, and the sourcing at the time did not support all the accusations and content. If this content is so well known then it surely is doing a good job hiding.
 * I’m glad sourcing is now being introduced that might back up what is being presented as facts. Gleeanon409 (talk) 23:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

July events from Women in Red!
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Edit war on Order of the Arrow‎
In what way is the editing tendentious? You should probably go on to present your objection on the article talk page. Thanks. El_C 18:22, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * They're the exact same edits that have been going on for weeks. The same edits that went to the noticeboard, that he has no consensus to make. If you look up on the page, we spent weeks discussing them already. Then the attempt to remove the criticism, those are the discussions that happened in March and April. It's all been gone through before. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 18:34, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, but that's a lot of material to sift through. Irrespectively, the current edit war is still a problem, I suggest you address the particular edit in question. You both seem to be alluding to general issues that nobody else seem to able to parse. You see that, right? El_C 18:42, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * What Buffs does is he makes about eight to ten edits in a row, so he buries the most contentious edits and makes it difficult to revert them individually. Let's start with this: He edits to say the word is Lenape:. This is what was going on when SolarStorm went bonkers. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 18:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Earlier edits: June 3 June 6: - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 18:55, 28 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I'm having a difficult time following the actual content, sorry. Thanks for taking this to the article talk page, though. Sure, the other party should probably edit more cautiously, one edit at a time. But I am hoping both of you can take a step back to try dealing with each other with a little finer touch. Also, returning to making this more accessible to outside input, I suggest you both work on condensing further. El_C 19:03, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course you are. That's why he does it this way.
 * This has been going in circles since March, with Buffs trying to remove anything critical of Order of the Arrow or others involved in cultural appropriation, on multiple articles. SolarStorm was his helper. When those of us wanting criticism kept in these articles are concise, Buffs dominates and derails on talk with mountains of verbiage, wikilawyering and misrepresentation of policy that leaves people in a stupor. His aim to wear people down. And see, it works. Then he does twelve more edits in a row that no one can follow. See, it works. Concise summaries don't cover it all. Detailed ones overwhelm people. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:14, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, well now I'm hoping all of that can start to change. Concise summaries. One edit at a time. Collegial interactions. All that jazz! El_C 19:22, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

AN discussion
I have started a discussion that concerns you at AN. GoldenRing (talk) 14:48, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I edited the article precisely to make it neutral. The whole tone of the article is very uncritical. It lacks balance. If I'd actually been expressing my own views, I'd have stated point blank that the very concept is pernicious, malignant and divisive. In fact, all I did was remove the presumption implicit in the article in favour of the concept that cultural appropriation is a bad thing. For the article to be truly objective and neutral it should reflect the fact that the onus is on the opponents of so called cultural appropriation to make their case and that the mainstream do not hold the view that cultural appropriation is a problem. My edits were fair and balanced in that they made no case either way, just started from the presumption of innocence on the part of so called cultural appropriators. ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anton Gramsci (talk • contribs) 20:22, 21 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Your POV is noted. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 20:29, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:23, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

sawney beane
Hello CorbieV I noticed you'd removed my addition to sawney beanes page. though i assume it's because i cited a wikia (it was also a little awkwardly written if i recall...), i am curious if that is indeed the issue. Otherwise, the episode where sawney beane's story is told is not available to be linked (copyright and all) so what do you recommend?
 * Hi, I do a lot of edits here so, can you please provide a diff and the source? (A diff is a link to the edit in question) Also, it's best to have these discussions on the talk pages of the articles, so everyone collaborating on the article can give input. In the meantime, see WP:IRS for help with what sources are usable, and WP:IPC for guidelines on popular culture sections. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 20:58, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Saxifrage. Lepricavark (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

The kazuba account will not be be reactivated.
Dear Corbie Vreccan,

The Kazuba account will not be be reactivated. As stated, to the wack-a-doodle I offended on the Magic Cafe, my E-mail address is no longer the same as it was. Sincerely Miistermagico (talk) 01:56, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Odd-sounding ref on the Legend of the Rainbow Warriors
Can you have a look at the ref you added that starts with "Aull, Felice (2009)"? What's the title of the ref? Is it really identical to the following ref, "Alexie, Sherman (1996)", and is this person a co-author? Unfortunately the link is dead. I'm asking you because you were the person to add the refs, and I suspect there is some kind of mix-up there. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:24, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The link is coming up for me. It's a review of the 1996 work by Alexie, that includes the quotes. Aull isn't the co-writer, they're the author who reviewed the work. I'll look at the ref and see if the formatting needs fixing. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:43, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It's the NYU literary collection, so the reviewer is listed as the "annotator" not reviewer, but I think it's there as additional commentary on, and quotations from, the poem, in addition to the primary source. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:54, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, weird. I went to load the page again to get a permanent URL in the wayback machine, and now it won't load for me, either. Maybe because it's not on an https? - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 19:56, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Archive url included. Though the title on that page is just the name of the annotated work, as she's credit with "Annotated by", I put a parenthetic (Notes on) before the title to distinguish the two. - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 20:06, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

recurring behavior
Your link is indicative of the behavior of his previous login. Unfortunate that he has decided to focus on you this go around. TowtoeTwo (talk) 21:08, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Mentioning of the person's origin in the opening paragraph
Hello, CorbieVreccan! Could you look through the recent edits on Nikolai Gogol page concerning mentioning of the person's origin in the opening paragraph. According to the WP:MOSBIO this should not be mentioned. Beliknol (talk) 00:32, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2019). Administrator changes
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:36, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Homosexuality article
Hi CorbieVreccan and thanks for letting me know about the problem with my edit on "Homosexuality". I am going to try again to make the edit using correct references, but I have a question for you. I asked this on my talk page but I guess you weren't alerted, so I thought I would contact you here instead. I don't believe Wikipedia has PMs or I would PM you.

So, as you point out, the Wikipedia reference I used was invalid. It never occurred to me that Wikipedia couldn't be used as a reference, since every article cites its own references. But never mind, rules are rules. But aside from the Wikipedia reference, I was wondering if my other reference was valid? I cited an article on www.pbs.org written by a specialist on homosexual history who has published several books on the subject. I presume this is valid? Grand Dizzy (talk) 12:17, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


 * If there are doubts about the reference, bring it up on the article talk page so everyone working on the article can review it. That is preferable to just the two of us reviewing it. Best, - <b style="color:#44018F;">Co</b><b style="color: #003878;">rb</b><b style="color: #145073;">ie</b><b style="color: #006E0D">V</b>  ☊ ☼ 18:12, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I'll try again with my edit using proper references Grand Dizzy (talk) 11:01, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

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Asian names
Hi,

I am JarrickLow and I noticed that you have massively undid my previous edits due to my editing without providing a reason. The names of the celebrities for which I have removed a template each is because they are high inconsistent with the policy of the use of those templates. For example, Lucy Liu is not a Chinese name but a name that is already in Western naming order regardless of the background of the surname. In addition, if there were to be a "Chinese name", "Korean name", for every individual that happens to have surnames of those origins, it would make no sense as every individual would need a name template about their names just because of the language of their surnames(e.g. Polish name, German name, Dutch name, Spanish name, Czech name, Romanian name, etc.). — Preceding unsigned comment added by JarrickLow (talk • contribs) 13:22, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Desmond Napoles
Regarding this: I really don't see the WP:ASPERSION casting here, and I think your bringing up blocks in relation to that comment is really over the top. At best, your sleuthing around the child's social media history is simply irrelevant OR. At worst, its a BLP violation. I don't know what that editor was warned for in the past, but their comments here seem like legitimate criticism, and as an admin I think you should be a bit more restrained. Nblund talk 01:01, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking at a BLP's linked, official account is not a BLP violation, and if you think so, you should not be editing BLPs, Nblund. Why are you assuming I'm "sleuthing" around anyone's social media? You also made this assumption and accusation when this was at the sourcing board. So I'll tell you again what I already told you then: I saw the official account run by the mother, back when all the Alig content was there, when the article first went up; then I glanced at the same posts again when the controversy started, to confirm what people were saying about how she had wiped the Alig content. As I told you then, this is the official, public Instagram account linked from the article. So it's creepy and inappropriate for you to imply anyone is "sleuthing". You want to write about this child, then attack people who check what the mother is posting? Actually, right now you are doing what Gleeanon does: Implying that those who want some criticism of the objectification of the child are the ones who are being inappropriate. DARVO, dude. I think you should go look at all the stuff Gleeanon has blanked from his talk page before you throw your lot in with him. Or, maybe you have. Whatever. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 01:18, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not "throwing my lot in" with anyone by recognizing that the editor has a valid point in this particular situation. Regardless of how you came across the content, you're referencing deleted (and thus unverifiable) social media posts. It carries absolutely no weight here. Nblund talk 01:26, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Gleeanon has repeatedly cast aspersions on other editors, and accused them of lying, for knowing that the primary source material exists. This is unethical behaviour. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 01:28, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You're an admin, I'm sure I don't need to tell you what to do if you think an editor is repeatedly lying - but questions about content are separate from questions about conduct. Nblund talk 01:32, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).

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Arbitration
 * The 2019 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place October 4th to 10th.
 * The arbitration case regarding was closed.  While there will be a local RfC focus[ing] on how harassment and private complaints should be handled in the future, there is currently a global community consultation on partial and temporary office actions in response to the incident. It will be open until October 30th.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Highly problematic editor.
Editor Niibwaakaa has been spamming content into the Pembina Band of Chippewa Indians article from blogs and genealogy sites. At this point the Pembima article need to be started from the ground up. They are also in the process of creating an article Draft:Turtle Island Tribal Nation that is inappropriately sourced, contains false information, and from their User Page it appears that they are connected to Turtle Island Tribal Nation. I gave them a warning but they are incredibly disruptive and would appreciate you stepping in. Thank you. Indigenous girl (talk) 00:48, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Actually I'm pretty certain they are a sock of Blackeaglequeen. Indigenous girl (talk) 00:51, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
 * You are correct. Incandescent sock drawer SPA admitted their identity in the overlapping rants from both accounts. Let me know if the article needs protecting. Right now, it might be best to let it be, as it might flush out more socks. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 01:21, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

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