User talk:Coredesat/Archive 10

DBZ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_June_14 Erm.... I'm still trying to figure out what was SUPPOSED to happen there....--Marhawkman 00:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

deletion of PORT page
68.165.229.136 17:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Look I dont understand why the PORT (www.portlandart.net) page keeps getting deleted, even created it so it didnt hot link directly to the site. It is a notable publication on Portland's art scene. The Walker Art Center (one of the top museums on the planet) descibed it as the undisputed champ of regional art blogs here: http://blogs.walkerart.org/offcenter/?p=590

We have tons of other dead tree press and a large readership (it's even the top google pick when searching "Portland" & "Art".... that's even ahead of the portland Art Museum)... curious what more do you want?

Permission to recreate Jesús Barrero
This time I won't make the same mistake I made when I first sprung that article up. --Ryanasaurus0077 23:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Comments
There is a user who keeps deleting my comments from the IfD that is taking place of that supposed child pornography image. He deleted part of one of my responses, without reason, and when I asked him not to he re-deleted what he had done before and then deleted my request that he not delete my comments.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  18:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Forget about it. It appears both times were accidents as we were editing at the same time (my first comment was an addition to something I had already said, and the second time when I was putting it back he was making a second comment also).   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  19:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It was a different user, it wasn't Hornet that was editing alongside me, it was TiggerJay. I hope you didn't block him because you thought it was Hornet?   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  19:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I noticed. I've been watching his page for a bit, because I've seen him around and also because this photo argument was slightly entertaining...at least when it started. Now it's kind of ridiculous. I saw you blocked him, and I didn't really understand why, and then you comment about "not seeing that"...I thought you meant that you didn't see that it was a misunderstanding, and had blocked him for doing. There appears to be a lot of confusion going around today. lol.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  19:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

User:Hornetman16
I'm here to ask whether the unblocking of Hornetman16 should be allowed, provided that he does not engage in further disruption and other conditions that I have set out for him on his talk page. He has accepted the conditions I have imposed. If he violates these conditions, longer blocks may be imposed. A formal warning and admonishment has been given. Feel free to add further conditions and give your opinions on User talk:Hornetman16. Thanks. — Kurykh  22:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Questions about Deletion Review
RE: Deletion_review/Log/2007_June_24 Melissa Scott (televangelist) : Endorse deletion, not only was this a copyvio (check the deletion log), but it was also an attempt to recreate content deleted per WP:BLP and endorsed in this DRV.

This has been my first time through a deletion review and it has left me a bit confused. After the article was deleted without a discussion with the comments "(Not notable; no reliable sources; copied from subject's website; see also Melissa Scott (pastor))", I followed the "What to do" link.

The deletion did not seem to fit the "Speedy Deletion" category, so following the "What you can do" link to the "Deletion Review" page. I followed the "Steps to list a new deletion review" procedure. I expected to enter a discussion. The request for review was closed, again without discussion.

I had written a short biography of television evangelist. Being on television and being mentioned in other Wikkipedia articles, I assumed they were notable. Being a living person, I assume using their web information was allowed.

So, by commonly held Wikkipedian editor rules, why are they not notable? Why is their web site not reliable? Why is their web info not allowed in a their own Wikki biography of a living person? What copyright was violated? In the endorsed DRV, it was recommend that a short neutral biography be written: what was wrong with my attempt?

I do not see where I have violated Wikki standards or recommendations - I would appreciate your comments. Thanks! jmcw 13:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt answer to my talk page but you did not answer one of these questions. For example, I did copy from the person's web page. Why is this a copyright violation when it is recommended in the living persons biography guidelines? I would gladly follow the wikki rules if i knew what they were. Thanks you for you interest! jmcw 21:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your patience! I'm trying to get the feeling of what is allowed. I copied 3 sentences from the web site: small enough not to be wholesale palguerisn but enough to be accurate. Have you seen the page that was deleted? What I would like is that this small page be restored for six months, that some other people could add to the content. jmcw 23:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Famecity
Notes:
 * 1) I live in Australia. The time zone I live in is called CST and is UTC+9.5
 * 2) I am placing this on User talk:Eliz81, User talk:Anthony.bradbury, User talk:Wknight94, User talk:Gilliam, User talk:Coredesat and User talk:Pdfpdf

(Is there a better way to do a "group posting"?)
 * Weeks ago I started creating a page and then forgot about it. It did not assert its notability.

On Saturday 23rd June:


 * 21:12 (CST) 11:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC): Eliz81 noticed this, marked the page for speedy deletion, and left a very nice explanatory note on my talk page.


 * 21:18 (CST) 11:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC): Six minutes later Anthony.bradbury deleted it, leaving: deleted "Famecity" ( { { db-corp } }


 * 21:47 (CST) 12:17, 23 June 2007 (UTC): I left a note on Anthony.bradbury's talk page.


 * 21:52 (CST) 12:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC) I left a note on User talk:Eliz81

Sunday 24th June


 * no replies received yet.


 * 01:29 (CST) 15:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Still no replies. Left a note on Help desk


 * 02:00 (CST) Went to bed.


 * 03:00 (CST) 17:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Eliz81 replied


 * 03:10 (CST) 17:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Anthony.bradbury restored page and put a { { hangon } } on it. (Thanks Anthony)


 * 04:00 (CST) 18:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Wknight94 deleted "Famecity" (content was: ' { { db-bio } } { { hangon } } Famecity Entertainment Limited and Famecity Management Ltd are two similar British companies.* Both have the same ...') [No explanation for deletion. No posting on my talk page]


 * 04:02 (CST) 18:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Wknight94 restored "Famecity" [No explanation for restore]


 * 09:00 - 16:15 (CST) - Dog damaged eye. Took dog to emergency vet. Organised operation.


 * 16:15 (CST) 06:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Started to write Assertion of Notability.


 * 16:23 (CST) 06:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Coredesat deleted "Famecity" (CSD A7, no assertion of notability)


 * 16:30ish (CST) (I think) 07:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC) - hit the save button - found that page had been deleted. As advised by Eliz81, now that I had written assertion, recreated page.


 * 17:00 (CST) 07:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Wife ill. Took wife to doctor


 * 18:00ish (CST) 08:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Dog in distress - back to emergency vet.


 * 19:00 (CST) 09:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Gilliam deleted "Famecity" (content was: ' { { db-bio } } { { hangon } }:-I agree this page did not assert it's importance. Unfortunately, my dog looks like it's going to lose an eye, so I ha...' (and the only contributor was 'Pdfpdf')) [Pardon?? What is the reason for deletion?]


 * 22:00 (CST) 12:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Got home. Made dinner.


 * 23:00 (CST) 13:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Looked at Famecity page. Not there!! Looked at deletion log. Started writing this.

Monday 25th June 2007


 * 01:00 (CST) 15:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Finished writing this.


 * 08:00 (CST) 22:30, 24 June 2007 (UTC) Take dog to eye specialist, and then to animal hospital for eye operation.


 * 20:00 (CST) 10:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC) Look at Wikipedia to see what response I have received.

I thought I had made a copy of my changed page-with-Assertion-of-Notability, but I can't find my copy.

If any of you can resurect the "new" page and put a copy of it in User talk:Pdfpdf/Famecity that would be appreciated. Pdfpdf 15:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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 * Oh please, stop attacking my harmless userbox, *yawn*, and focus on more important stuff... Bosniak 02:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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Phew
Re: The idea of transwiki-ing to WikiTravel. I was beginning to think I was seeing things at the top of the AfD page when it said that this was impossible. Thanks for backing up my sanity there. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I need your help.
Hello, I recently posted an incident at WP:ANI, however, no one would help me and user Shalom told me to ask you for help. Here is what I posted there:

''Jerdon13 keeps formatting articles according to his personal aesthetics. This is his summary for one of his edits on the Curtis (50 Cent album): "Easier to read (LEAVE IT THIS WAY)". See here, here, here, here, and here. There is probably much more, but I only named the articles that are on my watchlist. That is incorrect formatting, and I have seen many other Wikipedians format articles the way I am trying to format them, even admins, so it must be right. Speaking of admins, Jerdon13 didn't even listen to Mel Etitis when he warned him to stop formatting that way. He thinks that articles are "easier to read", but the rules are obviously there for a reason, so his preferences on formatting are irrelevant. Oh yeah, and I gave him a warning too. Then he did it again. I think a warning is not enough for this user. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 13:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)''

The problem is the formatting of InfoBoxes with using  s, I was told you are not supposed to do it by some admins and I also think I saw that in the Template:Infobox album. I have warned him not to format articles according to his aesthetics, but he would not listen to me or the other admin. As I mentioned above, I think a warning is not enough for this user. Can you do something about it? --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 15:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

New admin... how do you delete so quickly
Hey there, I was just looking at the deletion log, and you're pretty speedy. How do you do it? Is there a tool that you're using? Sancho 02:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

BBAD.com Deletion
Hello, I've been around for awhile but I haven't created any articles before. The deletion log shows you've deleted the page I created for BBAD.com. I took a look at the process and it says

"Deletion Review is to be used where someone is unable to resolve the issue in discussion with the administrator (or other editor) in question. This should be attempted first - courteously invite the admin to take a second look."

A such, I'd like to request that you review this decision. The BBAD.com site is at the center of some interesting freedom of speech questions in Canada. The laws in Canada are very different than those in the US and there are very few Canadian sites that are pushing the freedom of speech envelope into hate-speech territory. The BBAD site is one such site, and even though it is not a "hate site", many of its members are in fact hateful and have been threatened with legal/criminal consequences.

I had planned to write about the ongoing legal/criminal issues at play at the BBAD site but the page was quickly deleted. I would request that you reconsider this. While these freedom-of-speech and holocaust-denial issues are not pertinent in the US, Canada has many such laws and these issues are very pressing to those of us in this country. Thank you for your consideration.

HateWatcher 05:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. I received your message regarding BBAD. I know such links exist and will try to find them and provide them. I need to be out of town until later this weekend, so it may be a day or two. Thanks. HateWatcher 20:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Unprotect request
Please unprotect User:DieWeisseRose/Userboxes/PalReturn, which you protected on 23 June. The deletion of this userbox was overturned. --DieWeisseRose 05:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
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Closure of Articles for deletion/Bruce Wydner
Did you forget to delete the co-nominated article Weidner Communications Inc.? --Lambiam Talk 09:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

The Wrestling Federation deleted
Hi, I just found out that you deleted The Wrestling Federation's entry page. I would like to update that page and do not want to start over from scratch, could you please put it back up? Pfcool 18:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Lockout Wikipedian
Regarding: Image:Uberto_Eco_-_Foucault's_Pendulum.jpg.
 * The user, [], is currently locked out (until August 2007).
 * The item of your concern is a BOOK COVER.
 * --151.202.87.159 20:24, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Middle-earth in popular culture - pre-DRV request
Articles for deletion/Middle-earth in popular culture - I am considering taking this AfD to deletion review, but I noticed that the instruction page there says it is best to contact the admin who closed the AfD, so I am doing that first. I feel there should be an article on Middle-earth in popular culture, and I feel that the existing information would be useful in writing that article. No new information has come to light, though I am certain I could track down some references to books and papers on the impact Tolkien's works have had on popular culture. There is one in particular that I am thinking of: Brian Rosebury's book which includes a chapter ""The Cultural Phenomenon." In this chapter Rosebury examines the "afterlife" of Tolkien's works and attempts to bring Tolkien criticism up to the present moment by considering the "cultural afterlife" of The Lord of the Rings in popular culture." - that would be the "new information" I would bring up. I could write the article again from scratch, but I would hope that you would consider allowing me to work from the existing article and pare it down and rebuild it with references? If you feel I should raise these arguments at deletion review instead, just let me know. Thanks. I am also going to notify those who voted on the original AfD, as they may like to add their opinions. Oh, I almost forgot, this article is actually part of a series of three articles on "after Tolkien". See Template:After Tolkien navbox to see what I mean. Carcharoth 11:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply on my talk page. I hope you don't mind me responding here to a few of the points you raised. I fully agree that the onus is on me (or whoever writes or rewrites the article) to find the references and sources first. My main problem is with how the AfD short-circuited the way I thought the article would be improved (the 'wiki' way). As long as no-one was unhappy with the article, I was quite happy to leave it the way it was and concentrate on more important things. As soon as anyone raised concerns, I would have been quite happy to carry out a rewrite. Indeed, I would have done so at the time of the original AfD, but completely missed the AfD altogether. You mention consensus, but looking at the AfD I actually see 5 delete votes and an absence of any arguments against. Given the long history of the article, and the existence of a WikiProject on this subject, the absence of any keep arguments suggests that those who would want to keep the article failed to notice the AfD.
 * In essence, I am asking to be allowed to carry out the rewrite that I would have done if I hadn't missed the original AfD. You suggest that I carry out a rewrite in my userspace, but I would be loathe to do this without starting from a complete restore and move (including the edit history). Anything less would contravene the GFDL under which the original contributions to that text were released. If you could restore and then move to my userspace, and then delete the redirect, would that be acceptable? I would then carry out a rewrite, adding sources, and then move it back to mainspace when I thought it was ready. I would notify you when I move it back, and if you or anyone thinks I've moved it back too early, or it is still unsuitable, then they could open a new AfD. Would that be acceptable?
 * To expand a bit more on some of the issues. You comment on the original content with "The original article was entirely unsourced POV original research" and "that stuff likely won't prove very useful". I'm looking at a mirror copy of the article and I agree that most of the material won't prove very useful. However, given the choice between writing something from scratch, and editing an existing article, I always favour the latter because it demonstrates the process by which articles change over time. Some of the sources I propose to use are the Brian Rosebury book I mentioned above, plus this book and this research project. There are also several news articles such as this one and there is also the J. R. R. Tolkien Encyclopedia, which has several entries devoted to the reception of Tolkien's works in various countries, and in particular an article on Tolkien's cultural impact on the USA in the 1960s.
 * Quite clearly, there is enough in various sources for an article. The question then becomes how to illustrate the article with examples? Which ones should be chosen and which should be omitted? That would be something that would be discussed on the talk page of the article. Some of the ones I think worth mentioning are The Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers, The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins, Misty Mountain Hop, and Nightfall in Middle-Earth. The more trivial, one-liners, would be excised from the article. Does all this sound acceptable, and would you consider restoring the article and moving it to my userspace so I can work on it? Carcharoth 02:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Carcharoth 02:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Terror Level
What makes you think it's not relevant?-- Hornet man  16  21:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Generational secret
And the fictional works of "Middle Earth", superceed fact? My dear this must be based in California.Signora Estelle Wilson 04:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi. I think you forgot to delete Tatee, which was included in the Afd of Generational secret. Cheers, andy 06:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joker (wrestler)
I would have PROD-ed this article but I didn't think it would survive and so went straight to an AfD, but given that no one has voted to keep nor amended the article to improved it would this not be a case of consensus by silence. The AfD has been listed on both the WP:PW talk page, and to-do list and in five (now six) days no one has voted to save it, given that if this article had been PROD-ed it would now be deleted surely the best course of action would be to either close the AfD as no consensus or simply delete the article. I am happy for your thoughts on this matter. Darrenhusted 16:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

TREAMIS World School
Hi, would you be willing to undelete TREAMIS World School (Afd) ? The school has now been opened, on the day that it was originally reported in the newspaper articles on the article, by Governor T. N. Chaturvedi. John Vandenberg 04:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Good enough for me. Can you save it at User:Jayvdb/Saved pages/TREAMIS World School. Cheers, John Vandenberg 05:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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Surrealist groups

 * archived unanswered

Hi. I'd like to try merging some of the information that was in Surrealist groups into Surrealism (older diff), per the afd, and I was wondering if you could paste a copy of the last revision of Surrealist groups into my sandbox, or somewhere else? Thanks. --Quiddity 05:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I wasn't planning on merging wholesale, but a careful analysis to see if anything could be usefully merged. To prevent the creation of any orphans, to check the group articles for problems, etc.
 * 99% of the external links are probably ignorable/redundant, but I was hoping to retrieve the internal links to verify nothing had been lost. I'd appreciate it if you ignored process/rules, and help me to help the article. I'd credit the source-article in any edit summaries. Thanks. --Quiddity 07:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Or tell me/check if any are missing from Category:Surrealist groups? :) --Quiddity 08:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Thank you :) --Quiddity 17:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Please take another look at Deletion review/Log/2007 July 5
Hi,

I've redone the Goetz school article on my user pages and made some other comments at the bottom of the deletion-review discussion. I'm asking editors to comment on the changes I've made because they represent a new development, one I think many of us can form a pretty wide consensus around. I think the article as I've redone it meets the objections of many editors, and it certainly meets WP:V. Please take a look, but I think this deletion review will close today or early tomorrow, so please don't delay, act now and take advantage of this limited-time offer! Noroton 17:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Rick_Achberger
Hi, Could you please move the deleted article into User:ExtraDry/Rick_Achberger so i can work on it. Thanks ExtraDry 07:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians who listen to video game music on WP:UCFD again
This category is again nominated for discussion at user categories for discussion. Since you contributed to the last discussion, you may wish to say something in the current one, which was started on 8 July 2007. This is a courtesy notice I'll be leaving for everyone who contributed in the last UCFD nomination and not in the current one.  Big Nate 37 (T) 13:05, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

List of avant-garde metal musical groups
Hello!

I've found this page in your deletion log which gave me pretty much information about bands that play music in this style and I can thank some favorite bands to that page. Okay, we have the "List of notable avant-garde metal bands" instead of it but it's just an extract. I'd like to ask you why did you delete it? Is there any chance to take one look on that page again or is it totally lost? Thanks!

Revonovae 23:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Restore Star Wars Combine
As the Star Wars Combine was featured on the Star Wars segment of a G4 program, is there any chance the deleted article could be restored? Thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ibHgizJZU SWVRoma 08:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Anime South
Thank you for your reponse to the Anime South Deletion review. At the very least, I do not believe this should have been a Speedy Deletion. 15 new citations created an article which allows it to meet Wikipedia notability guidelines. Since the article's deletion prevents it from being reviewed, the citations are listed below: -Animesouth 17:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for making the history available. I'd like to ask for the entire article to be undeleted for the time being. I'm open to another AfD for this article if needed, but the article improperly received a Speedy Delete with the G4 reasoning.  The re-created page did not meet that criteria for a Speedy Delete because the article was substantially different from the deleted version and the revisions made clearly addressed all the reasons for which the page was originally deleted. -Animesouth 21:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Etienne Kuypers
Dear,

I am very curious about this: how is it possible that my article on Dr. Etienne Kuypers was perfect for all Wikipedians (nobody talked about selfpromotion - of course not, because it is in informative text; nobody talked about sources - of course not because there were a lot of representive sources and references), but suddenly some Dutch Wikipedians were involved (somebody of these guys has a personal campaign against the subject of my article) and after that the problems came. The American Wikipedians suddenly talked also negative. Please can you give me rational reasons for this strange action?

Regards, Joblf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joblf (talk • contribs) 09:03, 15 July 2007


 * Please stop whining already. I can tell you, the English Wikipedia blocks a lot faster than the Dutch Wikipedia. If you continue whining, it probably won't take long for you to get blocked. Also, I recommend that you do not recreate the article.  Sala Skan  15:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Forgot to delete?
Hi. When you closed Articles for deletion/Wolfe Ford Dodge, you deleted all the nominated articles except John C Wolfe. An oversight? Deor 15:32, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I see it is deleted now. By the way, oversight is something different on Wikipedia ;-).  Sala Skan  15:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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7on7 Football
I originally put up the article for 7 on 7 Shootout of the South. I appreciate your discussions of the reason to delete the article. If I were to write an article on 7-on-7 Football, would that be deleted? As someone stated before, there are articles on 6-man and 8-man. 7 on 7 has become very popular in the last 6 to 8 years. There are several big regional and even a couple of national tournaments during the summer. Someone was telling me about a tournament in Los Angeles last week that consisted of over 150 high schools. Here are some links... Clash of the Titans Tournament; National Tournament in Hoover, Alabama; A regional tournament in Arkansas.

Thank you for your help. Dep33460 20:10, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

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Your block on
About your block claiming that Duarm3300 is an ED troll, I'm wondering if should be indef blocked as well, since he is also an ED troll disrupting Wikipedia (See his bad-faith noms on Uncyclopedia), and as his user page says, "I've come here t stop the pro-Uncyclopedia propaganda crap I always see here". I'm not asking him to be banned, I'm wondering if he should be. -- AAA!  ( AAAA ) 06:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones in popular culture deletion debate
Greetings! An article which you have edited, Tropical cyclones in popular culture, has been nominated for deletion. You may wish to voice your opinion in the deletion debate. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Restore Characters of Monster in My Pocket
Many of the calls for delete were very wrongheaded, especially in the light that the page was severely altered by User:Spylab, a known vandal. --Scottandrewhutchins 15:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I am not a vandal, as my edit history clearly shows. My edits to that page were fully complying with Wikipedia standards and rules. However, your comment on my talk page, and your unjustified accusation of vandalism here, are blatant violations of Wikipedia guidelines, and could very likely lead to your account being blocked from Wikipedia, at least temporarily.Spylab 16:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)