User talk:Coren/Archives/2013/November

Dirty Angels
grupo de rap creado en 2008 conformado por Dante Lucio Fernando Córdoba, Ariel Reboredo, Uriel Gonzalez La Roca,y Florencia Saboredo. este grupo se dedica a hacer covers de rap, hip hop, rock y tecno. su líder y vocalista es Dante así como también el creador de la banda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dante Cordoba (talk • contribs) 14:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted edits has been delayed..Expected availability is mid-October.
I have seen this message displayed for months. It is now way past mid-October so I followed the instruction to page you. Any news? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hum, il vaut mieux, en effet, donner une date trop tardive plutôt que de faire attendre de la sorte...Dites mi-2014, et c'est bon !
 * Google translated : it is better, in fact, give a too late date rather than wait like that. Say mid-2014, so it is OK ! --Orikrin1998 (excuse my bad english, I'm french) 13:18, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The problem is that it's difficult to give a real estimate: it's not very complicated but needs a schema change on the master databases that needs attention from our DBA who is still in the process of taking over from his predecessor. The bug tracking that prerequisite is 49189.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 14:22, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I know how difficult this situation must be. Maybe instead of giving an estimated date the message could be changed to "The update will occur within your lifetime - the good Lord willing and the creek don't rise" or "I could tell you when this is going to occur but then I would have to remove your editing privileges" Just trying to give you a chuckle. Apologies if these cause offense. MarnetteD | Talk 00:07, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You could, at least, update the header - any idea of a new ETA? Arjayay (talk) 19:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Updating the header would definitely be a good idea. Blethering  Scot  17:59, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not that tool's maintainer, and they are the ones who set the banner text. You may want to ask them instead.  :-)  &mdash; Coren (talk) 18:10, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

See http://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/pcount/ ''We know, we know. We still don't have deleted edits. Try annoying Coren to tears and pressure labs into speeding up the process if you want to see it happen since toolserver is shutting down on 1/6/14.'' --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:46, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Not until June 1, 2014? WTF?! Epicgenius (give him tirade • check out damage) 17:04, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I am also here to annoy Coren to tears. Well, and to pass along a message, but I did that.  Coren... toolserver is shutting down?  What is the replacement?  Are the tools being moved, or what, exactly?  Thanks.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 22:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi again 74, you get around :-) WMF labs. It is a tortuous tale of politics and funding. The current edit counter is at labs, see the url and the message at the top. /me waves to Coren.Yngvadottir (talk) 13:04, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

"Camembert des totaux par espace de nom"
Bonjour, est-il normal que le diagramme circulaire ait disparu depuis quelques temps ?

Google Translated > Hello, is it normal that the pie chart has disappeared for some time?

Cordially, --Orikrin1998 (excuse my bad english, I'm french) 12:52, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Corrected. --Orikrin1998 (excuse my bad english, I'm french) 17:18, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit count decreasing?
Hello,

I've noticed that my edit count for Commons has decreased by about 4,000. How is that possible? Regards, Yann (talk) 13:35, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see how it could, although it may be a question on how the tool counts rather than your actual total; the only "true" authoritative number is that which you see in your preferences. For instance, the implementation X's edit counter on the Tool Labs cannot yet count edits which you have made but which have since been deleted.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:11, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello Yann. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but... remember when Pluto used to be a planet?  Well, um, you used to be a real wikipedia editor, but the astrophysicsts called up Jimbo... they asked me to, um, kinda fill you in, that from now on you'll have 4000 edits subtracted every week.  Yeah, I know.  Believe me, I know.  That first time was just a test-run, sorta.  I am sorry, yeah, really sorry about it.  Coren is not to blame; this is straight from the top.  No, not Jimbo.  The IAU.  You'll have to petition Stephen Hawking for mercy, I guess.  He literally said, so they told me, with his computerized transcription device, "Ve vill slowly decrease his edit count by 4000 per veek just like ze black holes slowly zucking avay ze galactic core mwa ha ha ha ha aa aa."  You prolly did not know Hawking runs wikipedia, now, and not just the League Of Superphysicists.  I know, it all sounds almost like some kind of crazy joke, right?  My sincere apologies.  &mdash; 74.192.84.101 (talk) 22:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * (watching) Hawking is not running Wikipedia, he doesn't even get his FA on the Main page on his birthday. (At least not in 2013.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * When did Hawking's simulated voice acquire a German accent? (Or whatever that is.  "Zucking"?)  And by the way, don't be deceived, Pluto is still a planet, regardless of what a bunch of astrophysicists and Wikipedia say.  Neutron (talk) 23:06, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I was pretty bummed out when they demoted Pluto, but I read How I Killed Pluto and Why It Had It Coming and it was convincing. -- S Philbrick (Talk)  13:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Do not believe Gerda. She verks for Hawking.  Of course she would zay that he is not running this vebzite.  But soon, yes soon, the domain will become vikipedia, and then ve all vill sprachen ze horribly fake Nazi B-movie accents!  No one expects the astrophyzicist inquizition, least of all Neutron, who *vill* suffer for denying the vill of the IAU!  :-)    HTH.  74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

In other news, I noticed that zum some edit-history-entries of a username that had worked on a now-deleted article... disappeared. Is that cricket, or kosher, or per-the-vill-of-Hawking-ze-Great? In this case, the username was only active for a few hours, and only edited a single mainspace article, about ten edits total, then that article was AfD'd, so the username looks like they have 'zero' edits, except in a couple of tools that report the true count. Is this always the way things worked, and I only notice now, because Coren's message made me pay closer attention to such things? Thanks. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't speak to how long, but I believe it has been the case for a number of years. It isn't recent, although it is recent that deleted edits aren't showing up.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  18:53, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Toolserver is shutting down on 1/6/14
Hello there! What does it actually mean that "toolserver is shutting down on 1/6/14?" Are we going to completely lose the edit counter, charts and pies, etc.? Any insight would be appreciated! &mdash; Dsimic (talk) 15:09, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The actual toolserver infrastructure is being phased out for a number of reasons; but a new replacement has been made to host tools of all sorts: the Tool Labs where tool maintainers are welcome to move their code. Very many of the tools that were on the toolserver have already moved – the project has been available for about six months already – and I expect most of what is left will follow suit shortly.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 16:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Sounds great, thank you for the explanation! &mdash; Dsimic (talk) 16:54, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

ايوب طاسيم
ايوب طاسيم من مواليد مدينة برشيد سنة 1997,طالب في اولى باكالوريا شعبة علوم تجريبية بثانوية  ابن رشد ببرشيد, عاشق لكرة القدم و الانترنت و البرمجة ,  مبرمج ومصمم مواقع الكترونية، اشرف على تصميم الكثير من  المواقع .من بينها منتديات بلاد تايمز و مدونة رفع العرب و مدونة طاسيم التقنية

في سنة 2004 كانت أول مرة يداعب فيها الحاسوب وكان لم يتجاوز بعد سن تسعة سنوات حيث أعجب بهذا الجهاز الذي أصبح بعد مرور شهر واحد من التعرف عليه لا يفارقه بل نسج واياه علاقة سرمدية امتدت في الزمان والمكان لتنسج بداية هيام لا ينقع وصاله، حيث أصبح هذا الجهاز من أعز أصدقائه.

وسنة 2009 انتقل ايوب من عشقه للالعاب الكترونية  الي عالم البرمجة وتصميم المواقع و المنتديات حيت التحق ايوب بمنتديات ستار تايمز الدي هو من اكبر المنتديات العربية اعجب ايوب بالمنتدى  و بدات عدة تساؤلات في دهنه عن كيفية تصميم منتدى او موقع واصبح يتتبع دورات تعليمية للتعلم البرمجة. وبعد ها اصبح متوسط في البرمجة و افتتح موقعه الاول كان تحت اسم منتديات بلاد تايمز وانشئ العديد من المواقع. وهو أيضا مؤسس مدونة رفع العرب التي يتابعها العديد  من الزوار العرب وهده المدونة يضع فيها دروس تقنية و دروس تعليمية للنشر الافادة ورفع من مستوى العرب. www.Arb-up.net وهده المدونة انشئها مند شهرين فقط حيت لاقت نجاح كبير حصلت  على العديد من الزوار  و المتتابعين  وحصلت ايضا على ترتيب جيد في اليكسا رغم المدونة لديها فقط شهرين على افتتاحها  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TaSsEm (talk • contribs) 13:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted edits
They're finally here! YAY! I have a question, though: how come deleted edits was available earlier this year, but then went offline for 6–7 months? That doesn't make sense to me. Epicgenius (talk) 01:08, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * (tps) Coren obviously the best person to answer, but I believe it is the case that the old toolserver tool did include deleted edits. However, tools are being migrated to Tool Labs (see 2 posts above), and the tool initially created in Tool Labs did not handle deleted edits. It took some time, but now the new tool does handle them. Simply a case of many competing priorities on very finite resources.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  13:27, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Let me add my congratulations that this task is done, and add a small, personal historical note. I cannot look at the deleted edit counts without recalling that, very early in my wiki career, I vowed never to have a deleted edits, thinking that a deleted edit arose from an edit so bad it needed removal. I still see new editors under that assumptions.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  13:30, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, that makes sense. Epicgenius (talk) 17:02, 28 November 2013 (UTC)