User talk:Corjan de Wit

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Sorry
That I pasted the wrong infobox, then deleted TM 9-1787B. Sammy D III (talk) 17:09, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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Thank You for Your help! Corjan de Wit (talk) 19:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Meters or centimeters?
I posted about measurements on my talk page. As a European, I would like your opinion. Which makes more sense to you, cm or meters with two decimals? Could you please post there? Please do not make a separate section. If you put a colon in front of the first word of a paragraph, it indents. More colons means more indents. I'll show you.


 * One colon makes one indent.


 * Two colons make two indents.

Thank you, and hey, do you want me to do an infobox for M1 mediums? I can show you how, it's just fill in the blanks, with a couple of tricks. Sammy D III (talk) 18:39, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sammy, good to hear from You. You have seen, that the articles are been expanded thanks to the finding of the TB 5-9720-11 of 1944. Thanks to You if have learned to make a gallery. Much better! I think that inches are better because that are the orignal measures. I don't know yet what an indent is, but I will learn... Yes, I would like You to make an infobox for the M1 mediums. Thnx in advance! Corjan de Wit (talk) 18:53, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Use talk page for questions or comments
Hi there, I see you keep posting questions to other editors looking for help in the text of the M1 medium tractor article. That's not what the article text is for, you would have a better chance of getting an answer or some help if you use the article talk page. That's where those type of things belong. Cmr08 (talk) 13:16, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


 * As I am new here I have to learn... Thank You for Your correction, I am already using the talk page Corjan de Wit (talk) 14:21, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Tractor Articles Referencing Problems
I reviewed some of your tractor articles and noticed that you never put inline citations, so I mostly put a no to "References and Citations" on their respective talk pages. If you don't know how to cite sources then see the page Citing sources or Citing Wikipedia. In a section of the article normally named "Notes" or "Citations" you put notes from sources and put the code reflist with double braces around it to see all of your citations. If you need help see Help Desk. Everything else seems okay on your articles except you might want to put more information and maybe an infobox. Thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia! Regards, Tomandjerry211 (talk) 18:28, 29 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your advise. I still have to learn and are being helped in these kind of matters Corjan de Wit (talk) 09:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I was just trying to help you. To just tell you 3 of your articles were rated start class after you checked and one of them was rated C class after I checked. Tomandjerry211 (talk) 17:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Tomandjerry211 Thank for your positive reaction. I didn't had you in mind when I spoke about some people that are causing a reconsideration of the cooperation with wiki. I don't want to see efforts ruined like has been done in creating the Autocar U8144T article. After the damage that has been done I had no other choice than to delete the contribution for now.

The first experience with Wiki already was bad as the Mack EH article was proposed for merge and deletion. Luckily enough others stepped in and a speedy deletion was prevented. But the article was unnecessary renamed (making it harder to find) and moved to another location. It's a pity as I think that I and people I am working with have a lot to offer like the US Army TM's of LOGSA.and older TM's of our REME Museum. But people who are messing around on this site with a clearly negative attitude are to say the least not inviting to donate so much of our precious time and to share our data. So the decision has been made to cease creating new articles.Corjan de Wit (talk) 02:27, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year
Maybe you should make one in a couple of days? He may leave us alone, we are probably not big enough for him to hunt. I have done a lot lately, I have to go slower, but it has been fun.

You have been making a lot of little places. Should there bee a larger one, with long sections about each vehicle? Each section could be like an article in itself? If a section gets good, you could make it an article, or put it into other places?

You have a good Mack book, and TMs of the military ones. Mack Trucks in the US Army? Do you have much on WWI ACs? There must have been a bunch of off the shelf stuff. I think the Australians use locally built ones, they seem very big on Mack. Modern stuff can be linked to Mack’s sites?

What can we do with all that construction equipment? Commercial Design Construction Equipment in the US Army? That is too long a title. But you could use tractors, cranes, scrapers, bulldozers, road graders, there is a ton of stuff. Maybe some trucks, too, you have an IHC Paystar dump truck. And you could link it to everything.

US Army bridging? You have Pontoon Tractors, I'll bet that there are separate TMs for the trailers. $2 1/2$ tons haul boat trailers. $2 1/2$ and 5 ton dump trucks. 5 tons have all kinds of bridge stuff. 6 ton Treadway and Quickway. You could do armored launchers and tankdozers, if you wanted. There is TO&E organization stuff, how many of what truck a unit has type stuff.

I know you like linking. You can link a lot of stuff out, but I think that if you link in people will see you. I don’t know if that is good or bad for you. Some old-timers will help you, but they are busy other places.

I named a gallery and put titles under the pictures here. I think it looks good, you could put a different named one after each section? Show a picture of a pontoon tractor, there are some showing tractor with the trailer loaded, then a picture of some bridging. You could link to the bridging TMs?

I would like to do more than one infobox, like here. The text has to be longer than the infoboxs. Galleries take up a lot of space.

Sammy D III (talk) 17:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Happy new year too.

I like the small  places. They are like seeds you saw and they will hopefully grow. I have already made the K-31 article. Already bigger than any mention in the usable books. Perhaps you can make a infobox with a pic of the TM 9-2800,page 304. We don't have to be frightened for the Wiki police, as we make well sourced articles that can be sustained by the material from the Soesterberg museum and another in my neighborhood where I hope to begin cataloguing a huge library (www.bevrijdingsmuseum.nl at Nieuwdorp). Do you like radar and radio? There is also a lot to do. Corjan de Wit (talk) 18:29, 1 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Ok, then you do want to make links in to attract people.


 * How small do you want to be? They probably will start talking merge, putting it with something else. You have already been moved and renamed, right? But you can do whatever you want before they grab you.


 * It would help me if you said which TM-9-2800. Trucks are all -9-, can we say something like TM 2800-47? The Autocar would be TM 817. If the first number is something other than -9- we say it?


 * The K31 is a body on an 8144 which is the same truck as the 8144T. They are both G-511. This is like the EHs. Do you want a different article for each body? Do You want to do the radios? (I know nothing about radios). Maybe 8144 truck with a different section for each body/radio stuff? You can link to a TM from inside a section.


 * I put an infobox there. Do you have a picture of just the truck, maybe page 304? Can you crop pictures? Do you want page 304 with or without the dimensions? A different picture? Title?


 * TM 2800-47 calls the other bodies for the Air Force. The Air Force started in 1947, before that the radios would have been for the Army Air Force, they were Army trucks. That may matter. Sammy D III (talk) 00:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Corjan, can you stop by my talk page? Sammy D III (talk) 03:43, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of International Harvester TD-18


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Secretname101 (why do you hide behind such names?) happy new year to you too.

The article is not mine. One of your people has started the article as " creating etc" I only contributed with images and TM's of our REME-museum. I have removed them already and I am considering to remove my other contributions too. It is a waste of time to see contributions deleted as f.e. the autocar U8144T article that was vandalized by one of your people (deleted the whole gallery without any understanding of the subject (not seeing the difference between the TM of the vehicle and the bridging manual). Kind. Regards Corjan de Wit (talk) 11:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mack NJU Truck, Tractor, 1941 has been accepted
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Hello, Corjan de Wit. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, K-5 truck, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:


 * 1) edit the page
 * 2) remove the text that looks like this:
 * 3) save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:50, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง I am sure you are meaning well, but I was just starting to write the article. No one has yet filled in the gap. You were a bit too soon. There are enough sources. See the other K-articles I wrote.

Signal Corps vehicle articles
Hi Corjan de Wit,

I found an interesting book that has lots of information about the vehicles from the Signal Corps that you have been creating lately. I found the book at google. You can click here to check it out. It is free to download on your computer. Read page 467. I guess you may already know about the book. It could be used as an extra reference for your articles. If you need any help with your citations, please just ask. I would be glad to help you with them on some of these articles. You can ask any questions n my talk page. WordSeventeen (talk) 18:59, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you I'll check  it out. It is a difficult but challenging subject. Thanks to radionerds and Hathitrust I have already found a lot of manuals. Corjan de Wit (talk) 21:41, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

A word of encouragement
Your articles about non-tactical military equipment have opened a new area of exploration for the Military History Project and you should not get discouraged by editors wanting to pick at your work. As a new editor you will cross paths with many editors who have long forgotten how it was like when they started to edit on Wikipedia. They have forgotten that "Rome wasn't built in a day" and that even carefully worded criticism can be hurtful if they don't explain what you have done wrong and actually show you how to do it right. Some of the editors are really quite self-absorbed and in their own little world. You must develop a thick skin. Their criticisms may be valid but the methods they use to convey the message are sometimes obtuse. Try to learn from each and every suggestion or criticism and don't take the manner in which it was delivered to heart. The Project needs new editors with some fresh ideas. Don't give up on us. If I can offer any assistance in article development or citation formatting please contact me on my talk page. If I don't know the answer, I will find someone that does. Give me a day or so to respond to your inquiry as I'm not usually on here on a daily basis. Cuprum17 (talk) 18:55, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Cuprum17 Thank you for your encouraging words. No, I am only keeping a low profile and working in a safer erea before I resume working on the other soft-skin projects. There is a lot to do and I have learned now to disencourage people who try to pick on my work.

But it is still astonishing that you are building an article and have to pause for a moment and then some is already proposing to delete it! But it is more important to expand the scope of the wiki project in this direction. Besides I like to learn how to build better articles and I must say that there a lot of people who have helped me. What is your field of interest? Corjan de Wit (talk) 20:01, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. A word of advice...DO NOT submit any articles for "Articles for Creation". The process takes way to long and there are too many people ready to shoot down your creation. Just create the article in your sandbox and when you are satisfied with your work, move it to mainspace. If the article is in your sandbox there is a minimum of interference from other editors and you are free to work on the article at your pace and not other editor's idea of how fast an article should take for development.
 * My interests are almost anything having to do with the history of the U.S. Coast Guard and along with that an active interest in ships used by the United States Armed Forces in the conduct of their missions. The Vietnam War interests me because I served there. If I can help in some way, let me know...there are no dumb questions as far as I am concerned. Cuprum17 (talk) 20:48, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you very much and I will try to honour i! Corjan de Wit (talk) 08:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

United States War Department Forms
Hi there, I don't know if you included me as one of the editors you mentioned above that were being rude towards you by making corrections to articles you created, so please understand that any edits I made to articles you created were basically just fixing manual of style errors, that's all. My edits were not done to discourage you, or go against you, they were actually to help you by making sure your new articles were following manual of style.

That brings me to the edits at United States War Department Forms. I did not notice it was you who created the article until after I cleaned up the text, so it should be obvious that my edit was not against you in any way. I just seen there was a "See also" section and an "Internal links" section and combined them because they are both linking other Wikipedia articles, so we wouldn't need two sections with the same types of links. If my earlier edits offended you in any way, I apologize, as this was not my intention. I was only trying to help. Cmr08 (talk) 06:14, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

No it was not you I meant. There was some anger after someone just erased the photo gallery of the Autocar U8144T article. This together with the proposal to delete my first article on the Mack EH-series after not yet one hour made that I found it better to retreat a little and make articles on saver subjects. But I believe that these lists (there will be a monograph list and others) can make a great contribution, especially when they are well connected to other US army publication articles. Greetings, Corjan de Wit (talk) 13:02, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the above message and also for your work on the mentioned sections. I will remember that I better combine them.

td-9
according to TM 9-2800 (1943) the TD-9 is a light tractor

July 2015
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18 Sep 2015
I was just in a fight with a couple of them at M19. I think I held my own, as well as I could. This English guy sort of helped me by not being hostile. I have made so many enemies, neutral is good.

I am going to give him some trucks that I have sort of run out of stuff for. They don't do me any good any more, so I want to watch what happens. A lot of it is yours, most references are, so I wanted to warn you. Have a nice day. Sammy D III (talk) 15:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

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