User talk:Corporal29

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The West Australian engine classes are neither done well or anywhere near covered adequately - just started with a new category - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Western_Australian_locomotives  it should help if you see the variance in quality and info :) SatuSuro 06:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

OK enjoy - you appear to be very competent so far! reverse engineering always works well here - look at the X, Y and Msa (heheh a feeble attempt by self v long ago) arts and even better look at the Victorian and NSW arts - they will help - try using the boxes etc - and you will go well - the WAGR article always needs help there - if you can see any points of improving it - please do! SatuSuro 07:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

wow
Pr class is excellent! welcome aboard - every any questions please ask - also I will intro you to our very reliable WA admins - who are worth meeting in a matter of speaking - will do that later - cannot wait till your next one! cheers SatuSuro 14:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Some issues - E and F classes were changed to superheating variants - and also there was a PMr class - i think it would be useful to have something to explain in either articles about the E or F classes the issue - and curious why Pmr doesnt get a mention at Pr - just some things to keep you on your toes :) SatuSuro 14:33, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah we can take the locos out some time and make a sep art - the thing I am interested in is to work out which drawings that I have of the M, Ms and MSa fom Public records office are actually PD and not copyright! That would be great if I could upload them but would need to check very carefully as Battye and PRO have some very spurious arguments about their specific rights over some images SatuSuro 14:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

The importance about your knowledge (I am impressed by the way) is if you have a ref/cite for the details - then add them - the big problem with many australian rail articles is the thin approach - limited range - and inadequate referencing (like my start at the msa was far off) - however the Australian Garratt article has more wa refs than other states for instance - the important thing is you have started running - your inline cites are whats make your contibutions so incredibly valuable!

I would say at the rate you are going we will have to cut out the wa locos art this week say - and then in there there are the issues which make a great article - the mainline issues, fright issues, and the superheating episodes could go in the main art - I am away the week after the coming week - but before I go I will show you who the wa admins are etc - but as always please ask any question however trivial. Out of curiosity - what are you like on the actual places - like narrogin at its steam peak, or the bunbury roundhouse, the mulitple geraldton stations, or the midland signal boxes? SatuSuro 14:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I asked about them - as they are parts of WA rail folkore - and are always a good sign of age and depth of knowledge of the overall system :) Well I am of a vintage and circle that includes Higham, Gunzburg (he hardly recognised me at the 2nd edition launching of his timber line book through), Tilley and others from the old days of the ARHS (I have a circular members badge from when I belonged as a teenager) so its interesting to find an enthusiast coming on board at wikipedia - as for writing books -  good luck to you!   I do have in my archives somewhere more images of some of the more obscure parts of the system - but it takes ages for me to find them and scan them. Hope that explains SatuSuro 14:59, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Well when I was younger than what my three teenagers are I got permission to go take photos of the 'dead line at west midland' where there were lines of old steam engines - including G's and heaps of ASG's all waiting to be cut up - somewhere I have the negs - I wish I had taken double the amount of photos that I took! So your enthusiasm and interest is valuable - if you have copies of the standard texts by gunzburg and higham and tilley and so on it helps - and also the carriage book of recent - if you are not interested in country lines thats fine - whatever sustains the interest - i gotta get off soon so i will have a look at the p - but will stay off talk now till when i get of cheers - good to talk with you! SatuSuro 15:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

New stubs/articles
You are very lucky someone hasnt tried to challenge stubs - it is really important (IMHO - others might think otherwise) to get the projecttag on to the talk page and categries in and the refs in - even just gunzburg or whoever - new changes patrol can b quite offhand with short changed arts as they seek to keep the place clean (sic) and the more intelligent of the species will also check to see you are newbie - so take care and maybe fill out a bit more on start :) SatuSuro 01:06, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Phew
Hard to keep up - now all the arts you have created need a trains tag as well (slambo is a tireless ed who has worked on that prject for years) might be worth exploring through it - I'll tag one for you but i think you need to get the hang of tagging :) SatuSuro 01:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

when i was a kid there was an O left for an ahrs tour - cannot remember if i have a pic - also the N's oddly enough were used on the mundaring weir branch - and the grades were so difficult that N's and Msa's were considered the only stock worth using - I do have some very very odd ref books that might help context at some point - do you have stanbridges 2 piccie books at all? if you do the piccie in volume 2 on the banksiadale line of black butte on the ahrs tour there i am one of the kids on the tender :) SatuSuro 01:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

pr but the locos=yes doesnt seem to be working might be worth going to the trains project main page to check the format SatuSuro 01:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry geting out of synch - trying to watch for vndlsm and have 3 diff conversations try for getting one good first id say - dont spread to far

At one stage either the trains portal or project had a dyk - there are 'hooks' about some of the arts you ar doing that could be utilised for either trains or just normal dyk - but hey there is so much to point you to - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Trains/Locomotives_task_force is one SatuSuro 01:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:DYK - one local admin User:Moondyne is our local hero in that department - go to his contribs page and at the bottom of the page there is a link to his sub pages - look for dyk and there you have it - his attempts at fame :) SatuSuro 01:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

First things first
Please make sure you get your tags on - and always best bet is class stub and low importance - if still a stub - but gunzburg or a ref of any sort is always better than none - you gotta realise there geographically challenged eds who are on recnt changes who might think a prod is worth it - refs are a vital key - they silence anyone wanting to raise issues regarding WP:N, WP:V and WP:RS in one step - cheers SatuSuro 02:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Well your contributions in less than a couple of days have revived my interest in rail history again- wow very impressed - keep at it your efforts to date are excellent - keep it up you are doing good work! - cheers SatuSuro 02:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thats a long story and better off wiki talk - your work is exemplary so far - keep at it - go do the battye and maybe talk about it some other time:) SatuSuro 02:21, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

OK I might by chance be in battye a bit later - I am bald with glasses and with a white beard - pretty easy to notice :) SatuSuro 02:27, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

False alarm - the show took up all my time - cheers SatuSuro 10:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Also at some stage down the line we need to consider the possibility of a western australian version of the Victorian loco template SatuSuro 13:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Classes
Just like the E and Es, Ms and Msa, and the F and Fs - yes - of course - same class with mods - no probs as a single art SatuSuro 08:05, 30 September 2008 (UTC) gawd give me time on that one - gt to go out for a while :) SatuSuro 08:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC) I dont have a handy copy of gunzburgs loco book - but i suspect however he does it would be a good test -  where he uses separate entries - like the U and Ut separation is important cos the Ut was so unique. I think its a case of if there is a major structural - either boiler or wheel arrangement - its always a def separation - however if its just superheating or mods - keep it in the same - what do you think? SatuSuro 12:24, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Without anything in front of me i think DM DD are same art poss and I think there was Ds was a sep isse for some reason SatuSuro 12:47, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Looking very good - just beware of too much text without a cite tie-in - even if it is simply the same ref over and over SatuSuro 13:05, 30 September 2008 (UTC) At the rate you are going you will probably get status on your arts that might suprise you - checkout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Assessment#Quality_scale and also the trains project assessment schems when you have the time to spare :) SatuSuro 13:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Good to see you back at work
Just saw the S class - good stuff! SatuSuro 14:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

As the WAGR art is getting bigger - better to think of subsidiary articles rather than filling it up too much i reckon. - like even an overview article of the all the rail lines/branches it is feasible that a separate art is needed - I havent recently checked other state articles or how they are organised however - cheers SatuSuro 07:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

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Well as I said 11 months ago its getting too big and now even some of the old piccies have been taken out - nah I'll grumble at least. Also pre-emptive headings are never good unless you have a hangon or update tag - looks messy. I think also the lack of cites is glaring - you gotta remember the big arts like this one are always better broken up than keeping one big slab. Too many assertions not backed up. at least youve given it a go - I disagree with lots of little bits, but hey ... SatuSuro 12:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Well your explanation explains it all - have no fear - it can only get better :) - any help give a shout - and make my talk as messy as you like or if you prefer email me - either way - any help is there if you want it - this friday the arhs 50th at bassendean too :) - SatuSuro 13:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

On a talk page - there is a drop down called user - up there to the right, and in that is email this user or something like that - I have mine enabled - in whatever sense you might like to think of :| SatuSuro 14:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I might be a day or two before I get a proper re-read of the stuff and comments of any sense SatuSuro 14:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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