User talk:Cougar gm

Orphaned non-free media (Image:BL COUGARS LOGO.JPG)
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Look
The point is, your indoor soccer team which was just started a few months ago... it's not noteworthy. Not yet, anyway. Maybe it will be someday, at which point someone who's not directly affiliated with it will think "hey, there should be an article about the BL Cougars".

A "new world order"? A "dynasty"? Is there any reliable third-party information? No, there is not. Not yet. DS (talk) 15:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

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Fine
Go here. DS (talk) 15:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: BL Cougars S.C.
You deleted the image BL COUGARS LOGO.JPG because it was not linked to an article when it in fact is. Go here.Cougar gm (talk) 14:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not an article, it's a page in your userspace. Melesse (talk) 08:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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User:Cougar gm/BL Cougars S.C.
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia!

I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but I noticed, and I am concerned that it might not meet Wikipedia's user page policy. After you look over that policy, could we discuss that concern here? I'd appreciate hearing your views, such as your reasons for wanting this particular page and any alternatives you might accept.

There are several options available for resolving this matter:
 * If you can relieve my concerns through discussing it here, I can stop worrying about it.
 * If you decide to delete the page yourself, please add  to the top of the page in question and an administrator will delete it.
 * If the two of us can't agree on what needs to be done, we can ask for help through Wikipedia's user pages for discussion, which may result in the page in question being deleted.

-- jonny - m t  01:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:User:Cougar gm/BL Cougars S.C.
Hello, and thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia. I acknowledge your concerns over User:Cougar gm/BL Cougars S.C., and how it may appear to violate Wikipedia's user page policy. I assure you that the BL Cougars are not using Wikipedia as a webhost. What appears to be many anonymous users posting, is actually me forgetting to login at different locations before creating a minor edit. BL Cougars S.C. is an official soccer club that according to some (one), has not met the notability requirement for maintaining an actual article. That being said, as an actual club, we experience many changes from week to week. Final results, next opponent, and an updated roster are maintained as they are on all soccer club Wikipedia postings. In an effort to keep this page current, I update semi-weekly. I have noticed that other users have participated in an effort to make the article more "wiki-reader" friendly. For example, others have been found to be fixing punctuation, typos, and layout format. If your main concern, is that I am posting game times and opponents, for team members to keep notified, please let me know. I can see how this could be viewed as a form of webhosting, and will gladly remove the particular data, if the issue is to cause concern. The direction this page is taking is toward gaining the notability necessary to join the rest of the main articles on Wikipedia.Cougar gm (talk) 18:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for taking the time to respond, Cougar gm, and thanks for clearing up my concern about multiple editors using the article. However, my main concern with your plans for the article is that it doesn't seem that anything is being done to address the fundamental notability concerns raised when DragonflySixtyseven deleted and then userfied the page.    Notability is established through the use of reliable sources, particularly secondary sources.  The idea behind this is that if a given topic is important enough for a journalist/academic/author to comment on, it's important enough for us to write about.  Basically, my concern is that from what I've seen, this article cannot satisfy these requirements (at least not in the near future), which means that there would be no way of taking it out of userspace and setting it up as a proper article.


 * If you have some time, then, can I suggest that you review the notability guidelines for organizations and clubs to see how your soccer team measures up? It might give you some hints for ways to properly establish the notability you need.  You might also want to take a look through the current sports-related deletion discussions to see what is being kept and what is being deleted, as similar arguments would likely be raised if your page was nominated at miscellany for deletion.  If after looking at these you can't see a way for your page to become an article, then it might be time to start thinking about a better home for the content.


 * Thanks, and please let me know if you have any questions! -- jonny - m t  06:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)